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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
March 04 2014 05:27 GMT
#21
On March 04 2014 04:45 Kupon3ss wrote:
les fins de semaine?


les seins de ma femme

/badjoke
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3260 Posts
March 04 2014 15:18 GMT
#22
In German we use "um" which means "around" (in the meaning of going/lying/... around sth in the shape of a circle) for time of day and "am" which is short for "an dem" which means "next to". I never thought about it, but apparently in German you use spacial relations for the description of time as well. Which is interesting, considering that German has a different root of language than French.
English was heavily influenced by German and by French during the middle age, so i am not surprised about the similarity to other languages.
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BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 15:33:35
March 04 2014 15:32 GMT
#23
On March 04 2014 12:02 Louuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 06:40 emythrel wrote:
On March 04 2014 04:46 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 04 2014 04:45 Kupon3ss wrote:
les fins de semaine?


le week-end is how I learned it actually. Not sure if that's how it is supposed to be used but that's how I have heard it said.


there is no french word for weekend, so yes they appropriated the word from english. The reason they have no words for it is that until very recently, they had a 6 day working week, thus no "weekend" as we have on a 5 day working week


There is also the fact that French people (from France) colloquially use a surprisingly large amount of english words in their speech. For example here in Quebec, very few if any people use the word weekend as opposed to "fin de semaine".


Well, we use "fin de semaine" quite a lot but it designates the end of the working week in a kinda vague way (aka. some time around thursday/friday) and not the week-end.
Romanes eunt domus
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6188 Posts
March 04 2014 17:36 GMT
#24
Hmm, interesting discussion. I think 'during the weekend' or 'over the weekend' would be more appropriate than ''on the weekend' or 'at the weekend'. Neither sound correct. But then again I am not a linguist and I am not multilingual. Tbh I don't think there is a 'correct' way to say it, it varies from location to location, how you were brought up, and what languages have influenced and shaped your vocabulary.
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Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
March 04 2014 21:30 GMT
#25
No prepositions at all in mandarin
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emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
March 04 2014 22:24 GMT
#26
On March 05 2014 00:32 BobMcJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 12:02 Louuster wrote:
On March 04 2014 06:40 emythrel wrote:
On March 04 2014 04:46 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 04 2014 04:45 Kupon3ss wrote:
les fins de semaine?


le week-end is how I learned it actually. Not sure if that's how it is supposed to be used but that's how I have heard it said.


there is no french word for weekend, so yes they appropriated the word from english. The reason they have no words for it is that until very recently, they had a 6 day working week, thus no "weekend" as we have on a 5 day working week


There is also the fact that French people (from France) colloquially use a surprisingly large amount of english words in their speech. For example here in Quebec, very few if any people use the word weekend as opposed to "fin de semaine".


Well, we use "fin de semaine" quite a lot but it designates the end of the working week in a kinda vague way (aka. some time around thursday/friday) and not the week-end.


this was always how I thought it was supposed to be used, in english we say things like "see you at the end of the week" which is very vague, could mean thursday/friday or it could mean sunday. When you say "see you at the weekend" its more definite. As i said in an earlier post, "fin de semaine" is a description of an idea, not a noun like weekend.
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dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6188 Posts
March 05 2014 05:51 GMT
#27
I guess it makes sense for time to be a place. If you are describing an hour in the future or past, you are placing it AT a point along a timeline. The same could probably be said for days, months and years. I'm very curious now as to how years and months became containers. I have been puzzling this over all night. 'At 2012' and 'at February' just doesn't sound right.

'I will meet you in 3 hours'. 'I will meet you after 3 hours.' 'I will meet you at 3 hours'.

Conclusion: Time is tricky.
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3400 Posts
March 05 2014 11:54 GMT
#28
In French the duration is usually expressed without any preposition (or at least it doesn't need to be). For instance you would say:
Je pars en vacances 3 jours (I am going on vacations for 3 days/ I take a 3-day-vacation).

And we use a lot of English words, that's true, but no English expression. Whereas in Quebec (at least it felt like it), people translate English expression into French: typical: bienvenue (for you are welcome, bienvenu meaning welcome) instead of de rien (as a reply to thanks).
So basically you d go: thanks! and they d answer welcome. (and not you are welcome, which is very confusing at first)
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 16:06:44
March 05 2014 16:06 GMT
#29
Funny blog, thanks
TranslatorBaa!
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
March 06 2014 02:29 GMT
#30
People curious about this sort of thing should definitely check out Stephen Pinker's "The Stuff of Thought". It's full of information about language metaphors with respect to time-as-space, and the reverse.

On the broader point of course many languages don't even have prepositions so this is a very Indo-European sort of thing.
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