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A year in Korea reflection - not casting Proleague

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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
December 26 2013 15:43 GMT
#1
Previous Life in Korea blogs:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 4
Part 4
Part 4

I've been in Korea for just over a year. Many things have changed since then. Many things have changed since the past 6 months. Many things have changed over the past month.

When I came to Korea I was a naive kid that just wanted to work in esports and have a job that I loved. How foolish was I to think that there would be no catch! That such a great opportunity would not come without its trails and tribulations? That there wasn't a bigger picture surrounding me that I couldn't see until it was too late? I thought that getting past the first season would be my hardest hurdle, yet it seems to be the first of many.

I will not be casting Proleague next season. A combination of miscommunication, cultural differences, contract negotiation breakdowns, dissatisfaction between both parties, and external forces have led to this outcome.

My experiences with Starcraft 2 since the beta have had their highs and lows. This low has burned me too hard, and I am afraid it will permanently server my connection and passion for Starcraft 2. For the foreseeable future I will have little to no involvement with Starcraft 2.

I sometimes fantasize about how things would have been like if I never took the opportunity to come to Korea. Sure I would have missed out on some life lessons, meeting new people, and discovering an amazing country, but the tradeoff would have been stability and much less stress. I'm too far down the rabbit's hole to end my journey in Korea, and this feels like the only 1 of the hardships that I will face in the near future. I have a plan. Not a great plan, but one that is bent around survival in hopes that I can make something of myself in the future as far as Korea and broadcasting is concerned.

So speaking of plans, what are they? Teaching English and picking up poker are going to be big focuses of me over the next 6 months - 1 year. I am lucky enough to have many people surrounding me that can help me with both of these skills, and with the proper discipline I will do my best to master them. Another big focus of mine will be Dota 2. I will do my best to cover as many Korean tournaments as possible and try to produce Korean Dota content in the future.
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Why stay in Korea though Whiplash? Why not go back home? Well Jimmy I'll tell you, I'm already in Korea, I don't feel like leaving, and its quite easy to play poker and teach English over here. Who knows, maybe I'll get the opportunity to broadcast some other games in the future and you have to be in the right place to make that work.

To those of you that were excited to see me broadcast this upcoming season of Proleague, I apologize and hope that you can still enjoy Proleague without me and will follow my journey into Dotaland. It's been real Korea, perhaps a bit too real but I'll do my best to make another blog post when another big life changing event happens to me.

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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
December 26 2013 15:49 GMT
#2
Thank you for everything and good luck! I hope we get some good Dota2 content ^_^. Come back to SC2 one day~
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
December 26 2013 15:49 GMT
#3
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Celebrating Starcraft since... a long time ago.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
December 26 2013 15:54 GMT
#4
Well, what can I say. I was really looking forward to you casting SPL, I think you and Wolf would be a great pairing (as evidenced by one of the Code A qualifiers you casted together) and it's too bad it didn't work out.
GL in the future (and hopefully also with SC2 after some time, cause DotA is really not my cup of tea).
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
December 26 2013 15:56 GMT
#5
GL this sounds like a brave plan.
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ZombieRitual
Profile Joined August 2011
United States121 Posts
December 26 2013 16:00 GMT
#6
I was also looking forward to your casting for Proleague, sounds like you kinda got fucked... I hope Dota2 and poker works out for you!
orangeorange
Profile Joined October 2012
134 Posts
December 26 2013 16:22 GMT
#7
Good luck, I always enjoyed your casting and thought with the right co-caster (sorry, I never quite warmed up to SNM) you could've been great.
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
December 26 2013 16:22 GMT
#8
Why not Brood War? Seriously, you've already made something of a name for yourself as an English caster, why not do it for people who might be interested in BW but not like having to listen to Kim Carrier?
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 26 2013 16:23 GMT
#9
Man I wanted you in PL

can you plz grudgematch snm he keeps bming me
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 26 2013 16:30 GMT
#10
So if you go into Dota2 this is not E-sports that burned you but Starcraft2. With what you listed i can't imagine this has to do with the game but maybe the people/organization that surrounds it ?

Because i can't see why Dota2 business companies players would be so different than SC2 ? (this is a honest question). Or maybe you are not talking about casting Dota2 ? And more writing about it ?

Anyway good luck with your endevour. You really improved over the PL year.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 26 2013 17:22 GMT
#11
Good luck Whiplash. Sorry the proleague casting didn't work out for this season. Would have enjoyed having you back.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
December 26 2013 17:26 GMT
#12
you and your brother are so boss at poker o:
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
December 26 2013 17:28 GMT
#13
On December 27 2013 01:22 Ciryandor wrote:
Why not Brood War? Seriously, you've already made something of a name for yourself as an English caster, why not do it for people who might be interested in BW but not like having to listen to Kim Carrier?


maybe because he wants to eat and have a roof over his head
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EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
December 26 2013 18:26 GMT
#14
quite easy to play poker OK
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Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1802 Posts
December 26 2013 20:46 GMT
#15
Aw, was hoping to see you cast PL Whiplash =/

Atleast you aren't completely screwed over like some foreigners end up as, glhf in DOTA2 bro~
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Shortizz
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore129 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 01:43:40
December 27 2013 01:42 GMT
#16
PIcking up poker might not be the best idea for you.

I dont know why SC2 players/people thinks playing poker once you retired from the scene is a good idea. Perhaps it is back in 5-8 years ago, but it certainly isnt now.

The online poker player pool is drying up just like SC2 and the ones left are fairly decent compared to years ago when you can just win if your not retarded. That said, im sure you have some friends who can advise you more on the matter on a personal level. I personally put in much more effort and time beating the lowest stakes poker, getting GM on NA was loleazy compared to that, purely on a time and effort basis.

Good luck, nonetheless.
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
December 27 2013 06:51 GMT
#17
On December 27 2013 02:28 Gamegene wrote:
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On December 27 2013 01:22 Ciryandor wrote:
Why not Brood War? Seriously, you've already made something of a name for yourself as an English caster, why not do it for people who might be interested in BW but not like having to listen to Kim Carrier?


maybe because he wants to eat and have a roof over his head

Well, I was looking at his casting as a side-line to his poker games, not his main source of income. If he needs the streaming for income though, DotA 2 is his best bet, no question about that. Just being nearer to the players than Lysander gives him an advantage in Korean DotA already.
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Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
December 27 2013 10:31 GMT
#18
Sorry to hear that. Was planning to get back into watching Proleague again next season.

GL with your plan
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 27 2013 10:42 GMT
#19
It's such a shame that all the sc2 casting experience you accumulated is now going to go to waste.
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
December 27 2013 18:16 GMT
#20
I think if you cast dota this experience won't be lost.

I sure am looking forward to your insight on the inner workings of Korean dota if you're as close to the scene as i think you'll be, what with actually being there and stuff :D
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 27 2013 20:56 GMT
#21
On December 27 2013 19:42 Dodgin wrote:
It's such a shame that all the sc2 casting experience you accumulated is now going to go to waste.


I wouldn't really call it a waste thought because he's learned a few things as a result that can carry over to what he does next.
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
December 29 2013 16:28 GMT
#22
That sucks man :/ Sorry to hear that.
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
January 02 2014 00:53 GMT
#23
I was watching some of the VODs recently and I'll miss you and SNM.

When I first heard you two both cast proleague, I loved it immediately .

I was wondering, who are these two awesome people .

I genuinely loved the casts and I listened to them almost all the time. Four days out of seven of Proleague with casts from you two. Those were some good times.

It is really sad to see things go this way.

I just wanted to let you know that I will definitely miss you (and same with SNM too, the first casts with you and SNM together, I liked because I really genuinely wondered who you two were while also being really impressed).
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