EPTall in all good luck
Why trusting people in this business sucks - Page 3
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GranDGranT
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
all in all good luck | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
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Navi_fan
Greece98 Posts
Bad players have two options: a) Regroup and train harder to become good players, to become winners. b) Whine and become crybabies. It's your choice. | ||
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peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
thats one like cwm strike for febby =D | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
I don't know much about feeby, but I can imagine he will have a really difficult situation finding a new team, both because what happened in the games and outside of it. It's great you seem to get understand well with your other teammates, maybe you will be benefit from feeby leaving in the end. | ||
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Blitz
United States706 Posts
On December 04 2013 08:33 Kraznaya wrote: TBH I have a very hard time feeling sorry for you when you started your pro career with a naked money grab at the Korean sponsorship league (which IMO was done very poorly for what its goals were and Demon's team is going to be proof of that). If you truly wanted to be a pro for the sake of being a dota pro, why didn't you build a real team up in the West, where you actually live and have contacts? You would have a much better choice of teammates, have much better scrim partners, etc. Because I tried making several teams from the ground up in the west and found little to no success with it. With no offers looming on the horizon from any decent teams, the Korean scene seemed attractive. I know we should all 'play for the love of the game' but is it wrong of me to also be attracted to the money? Or should I blatantly ignore that aspect altogether. This opportunity seemed a lot easier as if you live in a team house you can't quit and I'd be living in a structured environment with an already developed team. | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On December 04 2013 08:34 peidongyang wrote: yeah i dont really see how febby is gonna get on a new team as easily thats one like cwm strike for febby =D ya except cwms actually talented unlike febby so while it matters for cwm since otherwise he would be on a t1 team it really doesnt for febby | ||
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Inkarnate
Canada840 Posts
Febby always struck me as a douche, never heard anything good about him either. | ||
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Eternalobi
Canada220 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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GranDGranT
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
On December 04 2013 08:36 Blitz wrote: Because I tried making several teams from the ground up in the west and found little to no success with it. With no offers looming on the horizon from any decent teams, the Korean scene seemed attractive. I know we should all 'play for the love of the game' but is it wrong of me to also be attracted to the money? Or should I blatantly ignore that aspect altogether. This opportunity seemed a lot easier as if you live in a team house you can't quit and I'd be living in a structured environment with an already developed team. Good luck Blitz, hope you get offers | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On December 04 2013 08:36 Blitz wrote: Because I tried making several teams from the ground up in the west and found little to no success with it. With no offers looming on the horizon from any decent teams, the Korean scene seemed attractive. I know we should all 'play for the love of the game' but is it wrong of me to also be attracted to the money? Or should I blatantly ignore that aspect altogether. This opportunity seemed a lot easier as if you live in a team house you can't quit and I'd be living in a structured environment with an already developed team. i don't think its wrong at all, but it does make me look at it more as an unsuccessful business venture than a dream crushed or something like that like you said you still have a lot of assets available to you like the team house and a structured environment, as well as a shot at the season 3 prize money, so TBH i think u still have a pretty good hand if u stay on not many people get to play dota against a diluted scene for tens of thousands of dollars | ||
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Kirsed
9381 Posts
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
The most memorable coaches and players aren't the ones that won the most premierships, they are the dark horses that shook the scene out of nowhere. Anyone can cowardly leave and join a top team and win a tournament, but if you're someone who wants to be remembered, stick with it and never give up. Also after following the Korean scene in Broodwar for ages I have learned to never underestimate the passion and dedication of a Korean progamer. | ||
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Sunfish
Austria162 Posts
Losing sucks, and there's no doubt that you'll have to make hard choices in the near future, but there's a lot for you to be proud of. I don't usually watch NSL, but if you're there in season 3, I'll be sure to tune in and cheer for you. <3 | ||
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Staboteur
Canada1873 Posts
If anything, this gives you something to reflect on. You're -still- in a scene where you've the capacity to be one of the top players, in a country with a strong work ethic and familiarity with scheduled gaming practice, and still have some of the fantastic english-speaking ambassadors that I'm sure you could get in touch with that know enough about esports to help you find your 5th player. From a PR and personal development standpoint returning from Korea having lost and been betrayed and emptyhanded seems like the worst move. You lost, but don't be defeated! | ||
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FiercE
United States78 Posts
On December 04 2013 08:33 Kraznaya wrote: TBH I have a very hard time feeling sorry for you when you started your pro career with a naked money grab at the Korean sponsorship league (which IMO was done very poorly for what its goals were and Demon's team is going to be proof of that). If you truly wanted to be a pro for the sake of being a dota pro, why didn't you build a real team up in the West, where you actually live and have contacts? You would have a much better choice of teammates, have much better scrim partners, etc. EVERYONE except the players on the WCG Korean Dota team was making a naked money grab in the Korean scene so I'm not sure what your point is. | ||
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jimmydu444
Canada250 Posts
Because I tried making several teams from the ground up in the west and found little to no success with it. With no offers looming on the horizon from any decent teams, the Korean scene seemed attractive. I know we should all 'play for the love of the game' but is it wrong of me to also be attracted to the money? Or should I blatantly ignore that aspect altogether. This opportunity seemed a lot easier as if you live in a team house you can't quit and I'd be living in a structured environment with an already developed team. Blitz, no offense, but you are not a very good player, at least, not good enough to be a professional player as of right now. Going to Korea just so that you can take advantage of their less developed scene, and try and make a quick bucks was a decision you made. If your ass wasn't so high up your ass as to believe you could literally just fly to Korea and win your first tournament, with no prior professional Dota 2 experience, with a team that you never played with before, then you would've at least had a more reasonable reaction to your loss. From your interview with Hotbid, you clearly stated your belief that the Korean scene was so behind in terms of skills compared to the rest of the world, that even you, could become a star player in it. Trying to be a big fish in a small pond, and failing to do so because of competition, does not warrant any sympathy. Demon being in Korea was clearly not something that you anticipated. The games that you played against him today, it was clear that Demon was able to pub carry his team, due to the low skills of his team and his opponents. It is my belief that you imagined yourself doing the same thing Demon was doing today before you came to Korea. | ||
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StrayWolf
Malaysia161 Posts
Leaving the team though, that was a dick move. | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On December 04 2013 08:52 FiercE wrote: EVERYONE except the players on the WCG Korean Dota team was making a naked money grab in the Korean scene so I'm not sure what your point is. who said I liked them tbh I really think the Korean scene is overhyped and over covered compared to scenes like the Philippines and South America where people are passionate about dota and have been for years, but o well what can u do when nexon offers hundreds of thousands of dollars to anyone who can be in the country to take it | ||
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