EPTYou guys scrim alot with SEA teams right? Plus most of them speak decent English.
Hope you carry on, don't give up! Stay strong blitzuu <3
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Madbanana
Malaysia188 Posts
You guys scrim alot with SEA teams right? Plus most of them speak decent English. Hope you carry on, don't give up! Stay strong blitzuu <3 | ||
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Blitz
United States706 Posts
On December 04 2013 08:52 jimmydu444 wrote: Blitz, no offense, but you are not a very good player, at least, not good enough to be a professional player as of right now. Going to Korea just so that you can take advantage of their less developed scene, and try and make a quick bucks was a decision you made. If your ass wasn't so high up your ass as to believe you could literally just fly to Korea and win your first tournament, with no prior professional Dota 2 experience, with a team that you never played with before, then you would've at least had a more reasonable reaction to your loss. From your interview with Hotbid, you clearly stated your belief that the Korean scene was so behind in terms of skills compared to the rest of the world, that even you, could become a star player in it. Trying to be a big fish in a small pond, and failing to do so because of competition, does not warrant any sympathy. Demon being in Korea was clearly not something that you anticipated. The games that you played against him today, it was clear that Demon was able to pub carry his team, due to the low skills of his team and his opponents. It is my belief that you imagined yourself doing the same thing Demon was doing today before you came to Korea. uh ok | ||
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a-game
Canada5214 Posts
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icystorage
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BAMK
United States117 Posts
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ThaGoodsVol1
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xaitza
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at least from my perspective, you went to Korea because you thought that, as a player, could make a difference in korean dota, whereas in the west you wouldn't have this opportunity because of how the scene, competition, quality of players, etc is today. That still holds true, especially because you lost to a team with Demon, who really is a pro player (as you said your pro career amounts to one game, his a little more than that), not to a "normal" korean team. In my opinion you can bring a lot to korean dota. They still need better knowledge in map awareness, rotation, knowing when not to tp alone in front of a QoP, why the meta is the way it is on the West, etc and that's something you can impart on them, at least up to a certain level. You may not be Puppey, but your Dota knowledge is sound, you have pro contacts to throw ideas with (you are a friends with a guy who won the International, the guy that won the game against you today, others), and you've been playing this game for way longer than most koreans. Also, all the things I mentioned above could be more easily implemented by a captain than by another player, so maybe you should consider taking up the mantle, or at least trying. Evaluate your play today not counting demon, did you feel any of the other players outplayed you heavily? Because they are the ones you will be playing against usually. Bring a fifth, test the grounds, even try playing in a new position. Try to make it work. Sorry for my English. Best of luck. | ||
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MinzySC2
United States261 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On December 04 2013 08:36 Kraznaya wrote: ya except cwms actually talented unlike febby so while it matters for cwm since otherwise he would be on a t1 team it really doesnt for febby not so sure about that. I can see febby doing well in the future as his mechanics are there. Its just that his decision making sucks but that will be fixed afer a player get enough competitive experience. Given the average Korean dota match right now, i would rate febby somewhere in top 10 korean players i have seen. | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On December 04 2013 09:07 NB wrote: not so sure about that. I can see febby doing well in the future as his mechanics are there. Its just that his decision making sucks but that will be fixed afer a player get enough competitive experience. Given the average Korean dota match right now, i would rate febby somewhere in top 10 korean players i have seen. thats like saying hes the best student on the short bus febby wasnt even average in ixdl, thats a far cry from a player on a t1 pro team | ||
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
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Dongdongdong
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On December 04 2013 08:55 Kraznaya wrote: who said I liked them tbh I really think the Korean scene is overhyped and over covered compared to scenes like the Philippines and South America where people are passionate about dota and have been for years, but o well what can u do when nexon offers hundreds of thousands of dollars to anyone who can be in the country to take it People in the E-sport world expect good things from Korea when it comes to gaming. They have the best LoL and SC2 players in the world, and you could even say that Korea is the Mecca of e-sport with things that they've been doing for years with the games and Kespa and the media coverage. You can't really compared them to SEA or SA scene about these things. If anything, the Korean has better chance to play the game, learn, and improve, with all the support from the sponsors unlike teams from SEA or SA. Never underestimate them when it comes to gaming. | ||
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BetterThingsAreComin
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[ wall of bad english text incoming to crush your wall of text, this is an only punishment you deserve for your loss ] First, let's think about this whole situation sarcastically, sometimes circumstances are so fucked up that later you even laught remembering them. You flew across the globe to start your pro career and following happens: - Febby, who you should mainly work with, is actually not that nice, and has other plans - In your first game you get freacking DeMoN, who is actually pretty good and, more importantly, experienced in this kind of situations. - You get outpicked (mostly because demon gets playmakers and you get semi-carry and higly team-dependent heroes) - It was a lot easier for Jimmy: he already lost almost everything in his career, just rememer Dignitas before MLG. He got crushed by that. - Febby abandons the team. Epic punchline. Well, maybe you should also get food poisonig so you will be actually certan that this is all complete absurd. This whole situation is a joke, but sometimes life likes to joke around. End of story, no need to be frustrated about that. Do not be ashamed of situation that you couldn't change. You should stop to be depressed and focus on following things in my honest opinion: - you are the best player on the team, inspire, play matchmaking and scrims and crush opponents so everyone believes in the team. Stream for your fans and be, well, you. - what went wrong with picks and how you can you maximize game impact of yourself, and minimize teammates mistakes impact. - Febby is gone? GOOD, one communication and attitude problem solved. You have time to recruit and try new player. ---- I'm not your biggest fan, I'm not trying to be smartass or teach you anything, and honestly should've just PM-ed you, but that would be kind of creepy I guess. I'm just a man who was, is, and probably will have much worse things in his life in about 10 hours; and everything is gonna be fine at the end of the day... or maybe not, in which case everything is gonna be really bad  Best of luck! | ||
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EdGeRaxoan
United States32 Posts
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sugarparfait
United States9 Posts
As a devout Korean doto follower, some advice I can give you are apply to be a BJ (broadcast jockey) at Afreeca until you can find replacements or another team (seriously hoping it don't come to that point). Gaming portal websites like inven.co.kr are looking for good streamers that can get viewers - you have the experience, the know-how, the connections (friends with lots of famous DOTA 2 personalities), and good mid plays - you can earn some quick money doing that. I don't think limited Korean knowledge would hurt in this case. And Korean DOTA scene is very hungry for streamers like you right now - lots of Korean DOTA websites rely on contents from sites like joindota, reddit and DotaCinema for content. Another obvious choice would be to teach English in Korea :p Good luck as a fellow Korean, the opportunity is DEFINITELY there - Nexon is pouring millions of won into this game, every player/team has had to go through shit like this - don't be discouraged and keep on truckin'. | ||
TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
Wow. ***HUUUUUGS*** | ||
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
#believe and Work with what you've got! | ||
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TMG26
Portugal2017 Posts
On December 04 2013 09:25 BetterThingsAreComin wrote: - You get outpicked (mostly because demon gets playmakers and you get semi-carry and higly team-dependent heroes) This is pretty important. You are much likely the 2nd best and most experienced player in Korea. Because of that you should get heroes that allow you to lead the team, and snowball like hell. Storm, QoP, SF, Puck, you should try and always grab an hero that can rotate early and is able to snowball hard, so you can control the tempo of your team and your oponents. Ofc, eventually the korean scene will become stronger, but for now you should play with snowball/tempo setter heroes. YOU MUST LEAD. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
stay strong Blitz. | ||
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United Kingdom3101 Posts
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