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On May 02 2013 05:15 FryBender wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 05:00 Mothra wrote:Thank you. It's even at the University library, sweet. :D Always happy to help educate about science. By the way I gotta echo Farvacola here. What is up with your fascination about foreskins and circumcisions?
Where I live, the infant cutting rate is >86%, yet you'll never hear any discussion on the issue. People know nothing about it, yet do it by default. I've come to find out that this is common in America. I think national discussions are long overdue.
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On May 02 2013 05:33 Mothra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 05:15 FryBender wrote:On May 02 2013 05:00 Mothra wrote:Thank you. It's even at the University library, sweet. :D Always happy to help educate about science. By the way I gotta echo Farvacola here. What is up with your fascination about foreskins and circumcisions? Where I live, the infant cutting rate is >86%, yet you'll never hear any discussion on the issue. People know nothing about it, yet do it by default. I've come to find out that this is common in America. I think national discussions are long overdue.
I see. Well while I highly disagree with your views (I know we've discussed this issue before in other posts) I commend you for being concerned about something to actually do something about it.
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On May 02 2013 05:47 FryBender wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 05:33 Mothra wrote:On May 02 2013 05:15 FryBender wrote:On May 02 2013 05:00 Mothra wrote:Thank you. It's even at the University library, sweet. :D Always happy to help educate about science. By the way I gotta echo Farvacola here. What is up with your fascination about foreskins and circumcisions? Where I live, the infant cutting rate is >86%, yet you'll never hear any discussion on the issue. People know nothing about it, yet do it by default. I've come to find out that this is common in America. I think national discussions are long overdue. I see. Well while I highly disagree with your views (I know we've discussed this issue before in other posts) I commend you for being concerned about something to actually do something about it.
Thank you, and for the book recommendation as well. Gonna check it out after lunch today. Looks pretty fascinating from the description and reviews.
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Some advances in scientific research are making me concerned.
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Science noob here. What is a "cell line"?
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On May 02 2013 11:18 B.I.G. wrote: Science noob here. What is a "cell line"?
Tissue cultured cells I think? Not sure yet how they're distinctive ethically from the tissues they were derived from.
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On May 02 2013 11:18 B.I.G. wrote: Science noob here. What is a "cell line"? Basically, you take a culture of cells and have them multiply and grow indefinitely so that you have a steady source of them for whenever you need them
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On May 02 2013 04:50 Mothra wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 04:46 FryBender wrote: It's just a cell line. It's not like they're selling the actual skin. Thank you, I'm ignorant about this. Is it common to take cell lines from patients and sell for research? Cell lines do not come from patients directly. Cells taken from patients are used to create cell lines, which, as has been said, is essentially a group of cells which divide indefinitely. Originally, the cells had to come from somewhere so yes, they took cells from patients; however, at this point in time, we have such large quantities of cell lines, we don't really need to take cells from patients anymore (at least, for the purpose of creating new cell lines). I mean, the entire point of creating these cell lines was so 1) we don't need to take cells from patients anymore (thus bypassing a ton of laws, paperwork, and overall general concern) and 2) there is a steady supply of all kinds of cell types ready to be used on demand as research requires.
Selling for money is honestly a necessity when you consider how much money it costs to maintain these cell lines as the cells are constantly dying and replicating infinitely, and they require specific, sterile conditions to be maintained properly. Of course, they're still making a business out of it but it's not like they're just taking cells from people for the purpose of selling as a lot of labor was put into creating and maintaining the cell lines after getting the original cells from people.
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