• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:52
CET 04:52
KST 12:52
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down14ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League64Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.167
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Evil Geniuses - shutting down How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War [Recap] 0-6 Defeat for Mong's Team Bot on ladder Young Players Tournament Announced by SOOP Starcraft player cRuZa Passed away.
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [BSL23] RO24 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7953 users

College Admissions-A Sophomore Perspective - Page 3

Blogs > Praetorial
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
applepielon
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States78 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 06:54:32
December 15 2012 06:50 GMT
#41
On December 14 2012 19:22 ]343[ wrote:
Really? Ivy League colleges are the most likely to "hold your hand" and prevent you from failing; see this article, for example. That's not to say they make sure you excel--though most who go to such places do very well--but it's basically unheard of to fail out of somewhere like Harvard.


I mean, OK, there's a .4 grade GPA average disparity between your average Harvard student and your average state school student. I imagine your average Harvard student would do a hell of a lot better than that at a state school -- I have plenty of friends who were taking classes at their local state schools in high school and acing them. People at Harvard are usually good at school, FWIW. And I'm not talking about Ivy League vs a State School anyway, more like versus a smaller liberal arts college. And I am also not talking about failing out, so much as helping you along and keeping tabs on you. You would get way more of that at a smaller LAC than a big Ivy, for sure.

Also I really wish that article was not taken so seriously. That professor seems like he has some personal problems with social interactions, and is portraying a minority of people as the majority.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
December 15 2012 10:44 GMT
#42
On December 15 2012 15:50 applepielon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 19:22 ]343[ wrote:
Really? Ivy League colleges are the most likely to "hold your hand" and prevent you from failing; see this article, for example. That's not to say they make sure you excel--though most who go to such places do very well--but it's basically unheard of to fail out of somewhere like Harvard.


I mean, OK, there's a .4 grade GPA average disparity between your average Harvard student and your average state school student. I imagine your average Harvard student would do a hell of a lot better than that at a state school -- I have plenty of friends who were taking classes at their local state schools in high school and acing them. People at Harvard are usually good at school, FWIW. And I'm not talking about Ivy League vs a State School anyway, more like versus a smaller liberal arts college. And I am also not talking about failing out, so much as helping you along and keeping tabs on you. You would get way more of that at a smaller LAC than a big Ivy, for sure.

Also I really wish that article was not taken so seriously. That professor seems like he has some personal problems with social interactions, and is portraying a minority of people as the majority.


Except Ivy's do grade inflate. It's a pretty much given fact. Then you go to University of Chicago where it's brutal and your grades get deflated.

For people who are applying... it literally doesn't matter what school you get into as long as it's half way decent because at that point, all the schools are basically the same, and it's up to what you do in college and beyond that matters.
aegisabcde
Profile Joined November 2008
United States145 Posts
December 15 2012 23:28 GMT
#43
I think class ranking is more important than GPA. Even if you take 10+ APs but end up with a 3.8 and a 90th %ile ranking, admissions is going to think there are 10% of the people just at your HS who are better than you.
Panya
Profile Joined December 2010
United States44 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 00:01:15
December 15 2012 23:57 GMT
#44
On December 15 2012 19:44 Chaggi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 15:50 applepielon wrote:
On December 14 2012 19:22 ]343[ wrote:
Really? Ivy League colleges are the most likely to "hold your hand" and prevent you from failing; see this article, for example. That's not to say they make sure you excel--though most who go to such places do very well--but it's basically unheard of to fail out of somewhere like Harvard.


I mean, OK, there's a .4 grade GPA average disparity between your average Harvard student and your average state school student. I imagine your average Harvard student would do a hell of a lot better than that at a state school -- I have plenty of friends who were taking classes at their local state schools in high school and acing them. People at Harvard are usually good at school, FWIW. And I'm not talking about Ivy League vs a State School anyway, more like versus a smaller liberal arts college. And I am also not talking about failing out, so much as helping you along and keeping tabs on you. You would get way more of that at a smaller LAC than a big Ivy, for sure.

Also I really wish that article was not taken so seriously. That professor seems like he has some personal problems with social interactions, and is portraying a minority of people as the majority.


Except Ivy's do grade inflate. It's a pretty much given fact. Then you go to University of Chicago where it's brutal and your grades get deflated.

For people who are applying... it literally doesn't matter what school you get into as long as it's half way decent because at that point, all the schools are basically the same, and it's up to what you do in college and beyond that matters.


Indeed Ivies do grade inflate. So does everyone else. In fact, colleges in the US for the past couple of decades have all been raising their average GPA levels as a method to garner more students (who wants to attend a school that everyone fails out of?). See:

http://gradeinflation.com/

However, people love to make judgments about school GPA based on perceptions of the school culture. IE, UChicago is "where fun comes to die", thus their grades are lower. This empirically hasn't been the case. If anything data has shown that UChicago is in fact just as grade inflated as most of the Ivies. Despite all of this, none of this really goes against what Applepielon was saying, which is, at schools like Harvard just because the GPA average is higher than your average state school doesn't necessarily explain all of school difficulty. Perhaps it is the students' abilities that are "inflated". After all, academic ability is a prime characteristic for admissions into top schools.

Admittedly, top schools do typically have a lot easier of curves, but I feel like that's understandable.Curving a class full of high school valedictorians on a evenly distributed A to F scale is brutal, to say the least.

Also man do I hate that article.

I think class ranking is more important than GPA. Even if you take 10+ APs but end up with a 3.8 and a 90th %ile ranking, admissions is going to think there are 10% of the people just at your HS who are better than you.


This is more or less false. You cannot standardize the abilities of people across high schools. A 90%tile at Exeter versus a 90%tile in a typical public school are far and away different things, and adcoms understand this. This is why some top schools can get 30% of their kids per class into top schools every year consistently, while many schools in their history have never sent a valedictorian into the top 10. AP/IB standarized curriculum is one great way to show that you have the ability to do well on college difficulty schools regardless of the rest of your student body. This is not to say there is no comparison of rankings, but in your example, a 10+ APs in any percentile is amazing to say the least, while not all valedictorian/high %iles are as worthy.
PenguinWithNuke
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
250 Posts
December 18 2012 03:18 GMT
#45
OP, what are your stats? I can tell you that if you want to go Ivy League as an international, you're going to have to have some real killer stats and not apply for financial aid. Post your stats.

My experience: I had lie a 3.93/4.00 GPA and I took the most rigorous courses in my high school, which is decent and regularly sends about 3-7% of its graduating seniors to Ivies.

This is what you should do.
1. Make sure you have extracurriculars that you actually care about. Don't do something because you think it'll look good on an application--adcoms can see right through that bullshit. When you list your EC's, don't make a large laundry list. Ivies want to admit a CLASS--if they wanted to admit 4.0/2400 they could, but they don't because they want diversity and the best possible class.

2. Take the hardest possible courses at your school and get A's. Your transcript matters the most in a college decision, even if it's a holistic approach. In truth, EC's only really matter when you do something AMAZING. If you have a shitty transcript, no amount of EC's are going to push you over. Unless you do something spectacular, and that's not really expected.

3. Get to know some teachers well. Don't be an asshat in class because you're going to have to get recommendations from your teachers. Choose teachers who know you well as a person, as well as a student. In addition to this, get to know your guidance counselor well, so that he/she can write you a good letter.

4. Testing matters, up to a certain point. If you get 2250+ on the SAT, or above 33 on the ACT, you should be pretty much set. Scores above 770 on the SATII's are also nice. If you can take AP's, do it, but it doesn't really matter that much. I personally would not spend that much money on test prep. Get yourself a book and study it yourself. There will be like 10 tests or so in a single book. Do all of them and you should be set. That's what I did--I raised my scores up about 110 points to a 2300. It's about practicing how to beat the test. The more practice you do, the better you'll do on the test.

5. When you write essays, write good essays. Don't write what you think the adcoms want to hear. Write about something you care about. You should let your personality shine through. Also, if you think you have an original idea, it probably isn't. Adcoms read thousands upon thousands of essays each admissions season: for example, Penn had about 30k applicants last year. Just write about something you have a passion for and write it well. That's what I did and I got into Penn ED.

I'm going to make the assumption that you're an international. If so, Penn loves international kids. If you have any questions or whatever about this process, PM me, because I know what I'm doing. More or less.


On December 14 2012 13:08 number01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
US colleges discriminate against certain races, IE if you're Black or Mexican you can get admitted with much lower scores/grades than if you're White/Asian.


LOL you have no idea what you are talking about.

Most USA colleges do not want asians because their spots fill very quickly. It is not that hard to find 1000 asians competing for a position in Hardvard, while there are probably 50 hispanics trying to get there. If you are white, you are almost guaranteed any college even if you dont get your first choice.

Most asians nowadays switch their last names to sound more hispanic or white in order to fill other spots. It is the reality that they are extremely greedy and have no respect for other ethnicity.

Just attend one of the upper biology classes on any university and you will see tons of people with the last name "Patel".
In one of my classes there were around 15 people with that last name.

cheers!


User was temp banned for this post.


You are actually retarded. Please never post again, you cancerous idiot.
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
08:40
Best Games of SC
Serral vs Neeb
Reynor vs Clem
Maru vs GgMaChine
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft506
RuFF_SC2 242
FoxeR 223
StarCraft: Brood War
BeSt 258
Hyuk 145
Mong 18
Noble 11
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm221
canceldota143
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 722
Other Games
summit1g9480
C9.Mang0303
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1601
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta19
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra1271
• Shiphtur447
Upcoming Events
FEL
6h 8m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6h 8m
Replay Cast
19h 8m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 8h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
[ Show More ]
GSL
5 days
Epic.LAN
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Epic.LAN
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSC
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.