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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 17:57:22
September 11 2012 17:04 GMT
#41
I'm not sure about 'Murrica, but here in Yurop, there are some paramedic organisations that compensate volunteers.
Minimally.
Where I volunteer, you get 2€ per hour, and it's upgraded to 4€ if you do more than 24 hours in that week.

It's barely enough to make up for the gas and food you need during that, so that can't be the same for him, if he can be happy about getting a check.
I for sure wasn't ever happy about the money, because 90% is already gone by the time I get the check, lol.

As for calling BS on his previous blogs, I didn't read a lot of them, I admit (don't really like the style, at all).
I do know that the paramedics operate very differently in the U S and A, so I can't comment on anything besides the medical stuff. And I can't remember anything that was inherently WRONG, but since I didn't read it often, I wouldn't know either way.



I'm also sure he made some parts look nicer or more awesome than they most likely were, but I'm used to that. You see that a lot with paramedics, especially volunteers. I don't think it's in itself a bad thing, you just compare penis sizes with the others about how awesome you were saving the life of guy X, or how horrible accident Y was (but of course YOU kept your cool and totally did everything right).
People kinda NEED to do that, especially when you don't (really) get paid.
Let me put it out there: The work sucks.
Period.
People die, people almost die, people have conditions that are WORSE than dying, etc. You have to make it good somehow in your mind, or you start asking yourself "why am I actually doing this again?" And to that question, you will not have a good answer. So you have to lie to yourself, and think "I do this because I'm awesome. And doing it is awesome. And since I'm awesome, I'm SO doing this"

The part where that goes wrong is when you stop just lying to yourself, and start lying to everyone else.
People that work as medics are very hit-and-miss in my experience.
There are a ton of really chill guys that are a ton of fun to hang out with (hanging out is >50% of the "worktime" as a medic, because more often than not, nothing actually happens.)
Then there are some people that are absolutely astronomical dicks. Arrogant assholes, the worst of the worst.
And everything inbetween exists too.


What I'm saying is:
Never go into a blog that even remotely deals with medical stuff and expect to read the truth. Never.
Even the nicest guys bolster up their emergencies right after they happened and you talk about it on the station. And by the time something makes it into a blog, it's never even remotely accurate anymore. I wouldn't take a blog written by my best medic-buddies as the truth, so I sure as hell won't trust some random on the internet.

That in itself may not be understandable to an outsider, but trust me it's how shit works, and it has it's place.
Always take the content with more than just one grain of salt.



On September 12 2012 01:35 FryBender wrote:
I always felt weird about reading Snet's blogs. At first I thought I was just jealous of all the cool stuff that happened. But that wasn't it because I love reading about all the cool stuff different people get to do on TL. Maybe it was because of the weird style. But I don't think that's it either. I finally figured out what it was. First of all the self-aggrandizing is kind of annoying. The "look at me I'm a hero" thing is cool to read once but when it's literally in every one of your blogs it gets tired and repetitive. The second thing is that I knew a paramedic once (a professional paramedic) and the only cool story he had after 3 years of working was the one time he got called out to the house of this old guy who died of a heart attack during sex. Needless to say the woman he was with was freaked out and she never dressed properly. So here is this old 67 year old guy lying naked in the bed and this much younger woman (who looks like she is a professional) is half-naked and freaking out. The best part of the story was that either because she was just in shock or (more likely) because she had never met this guy before in her life, she had no idea who he was. Didn't know his name, didn't know if he had any relatives, nothing. That was the only story he had. He said everything else was pretty routine and boring. He never once talked about how much of an awesome guy he was because he delivered a 3 year old to the emergency room just in time and how he saved a million lives. And I'm glad he didn't because talking with him would become a bore.

Now it seems like you're lying about certain things. And I'm guessing that a lot of the stuff in your stories may very well not be true at all. That's sad

You don't always want to talk about it.
I promise you, it was not the only "interesting" thing that happened to him. But it probably was the only one that was funny enough to tell people.

Sex sometimes makes for good stories, but more often than not, it's just gross, and nothing else. T.T
A backwards poet writes inverse.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
September 11 2012 17:29 GMT
#42
On September 12 2012 01:35 FryBender wrote:
I always felt weird about reading Snet's blogs. At first I thought I was just jealous of all the cool stuff that happened. But that wasn't it because I love reading about all the cool stuff different people get to do on TL. Maybe it was because of the weird style. But I don't think that's it either. I finally figured out what it was. First of all the self-aggrandizing is kind of annoying. The "look at me I'm a hero" thing is cool to read once but when it's literally in every one of your blogs it gets tired and repetitive. The second thing is that I knew a paramedic once (a professional paramedic) and the only cool story he had after 3 years of working was the one time he got called out to the house of this old guy who died of a heart attack during sex. Needless to say the woman he was with was freaked out and she never dressed properly. So here is this old 67 year old guy lying naked in the bed and this much younger woman (who looks like she is a professional) is half-naked and freaking out. The best part of the story was that either because she was just in shock or (more likely) because she had never met this guy before in her life, she had no idea who he was. Didn't know his name, didn't know if he had any relatives, nothing. That was the only story he had. He said everything else was pretty routine and boring. He never once talked about how much of an awesome guy he was because he delivered a 3 year old to the emergency room just in time and how he saved a million lives. And I'm glad he didn't because talking with him would become a bore.

Now it seems like you're lying about certain things. And I'm guessing that a lot of the stuff in your stories may very well not be true at all. That's sad


Now thats a story =)

And yeah I fully agree
beep boop
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
September 11 2012 17:32 GMT
#43
And the plot thickens...
English
Profile Joined April 2010
United States475 Posts
September 11 2012 17:48 GMT
#44
This thread looks familiar...Quick to grab those pitchforks yet again!

I honestly don't care if he lied or not, EMTs still save lives.
Renent
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 18:10:54
September 11 2012 18:00 GMT
#45
On September 12 2012 01:35 FryBender wrote:
I always felt weird about reading Snet's blogs. At first I thought I was just jealous of all the cool stuff that happened. But that wasn't it because I love reading about all the cool stuff different people get to do on TL. Maybe it was because of the weird style. But I don't think that's it either. I finally figured out what it was. First of all the self-aggrandizing is kind of annoying. The "look at me I'm a hero" thing is cool to read once but when it's literally in every one of your blogs it gets tired and repetitive. The second thing is that I knew a paramedic once (a professional paramedic) and the only cool story he had after 3 years of working was the one time he got called out to the house of this old guy who died of a heart attack during sex. Needless to say the woman he was with was freaked out and she never dressed properly. So here is this old 67 year old guy lying naked in the bed and this much younger woman (who looks like she is a professional) is half-naked and freaking out. The best part of the story was that either because she was just in shock or (more likely) because she had never met this guy before in her life, she had no idea who he was. Didn't know his name, didn't know if he had any relatives, nothing. That was the only story he had. He said everything else was pretty routine and boring. He never once talked about how much of an awesome guy he was because he delivered a 3 year old to the emergency room just in time and how he saved a million lives. And I'm glad he didn't because talking with him would become a bore.

Now it seems like you're lying about certain things. And I'm guessing that a lot of the stuff in your stories may very well not be true at all. That's sad



I like your medic friend already. I know a few of vets in my EMS system that will say after 25 years they have only had one or two TRUE saves. At my level of care almost all our skills/interventions are just to extend the patients life so they can get to a higer level of care where the true treatment needs to happen.

I almost never have those "cool" calls come in (unless some hot lady friends are standing around at the same bar, amirite!?!?). The most I get is a known 320lbs+ 60 y/o female that just happens to fall every few weeks and is ALWAYS just stark naked. Last time we got toned out for her she had fallen in her walk in closet and was perfectly wedged inbetween the two walls. Oddly enough, local fire was conviently busy at the time but managed to responded to a 18 y/o female with syncope an hour later...

SNET, I was really hoping you would answer my last post in your last blog about your treatment of the seizure victim.
Woof
Renent
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 18:09:56
September 11 2012 18:09 GMT
#46
quoted myself
Woof
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 18:52:28
September 11 2012 18:52 GMT
#47
Uhoh. We might get a revoked blue star and a banhammer if this blows up any more.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
September 11 2012 19:47 GMT
#48
I'm just gonna say it.

I don't like these blogs at all. Is it truly altruism if you boast about it? No, it's just legal public masturbation.
Hates Fun🤔
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
September 11 2012 20:03 GMT
#49
Haha. When I came home from work this morning, I caught this blog and the cynical side of me REALLY wanted to call BS/elaborate trolling/ect. Wayyyy too self indulgent, and I kind of remember him saying he got payed in another blog.

However, I didn't wan't to assume anything. So I bit my toungue, didn't post, and went to sleep.

It was strangley satisfying to wake up now and read 5 other people did decide to write something.
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
September 11 2012 20:18 GMT
#50
Snet, as a former 911 dispatcher I want to say thank you.

Please take my 999th and 1000th posts.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
September 11 2012 20:18 GMT
#51
On my birthday.
DKR
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 20:31:26
September 11 2012 20:31 GMT
#52
I think everyone's still waiting for an answer :/ this is like that kid who pretended to have cancer (wasn't around at the time but heard about it)

EDIT: (if it's true)
"1 base. Cheese man." - MKP. "[MVP] is not stylistic, his style is winning, which is the style you want to have." - Artosis
Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
September 11 2012 21:06 GMT
#53
Wow these people seem really jealous of Snet's incredible generosity. Believe it or not some people are just good.
Thank you for blogging and please continue despite the naysayers.
I looked in the mirror and saw biupilm69t
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 11 2012 21:08 GMT
#54
On September 12 2012 06:06 Maxd11 wrote:
Wow these people seem really jealous of Snet's incredible generosity. Believe it or not some people are just good.
Thank you for blogging and please continue despite the naysayers.


I think most people are just a little suspicious of the inconsistencies we've seen here, not trying to discredit the act of saving lives. I'm not taking sides at all until he gives an explanation.
memes are a dish best served dank
Renent
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada302 Posts
September 11 2012 21:11 GMT
#55
On September 12 2012 06:06 Maxd11 wrote:
Wow these people seem really jealous of Snet's incredible generosity. Believe it or not some people are just good.
Thank you for blogging and please continue despite the naysayers.



How is it nay saying to ask questions? I asked quite a few about treatment in the last blog and am I nay saying? People are asking him to clarify the issue of whether he is getting paid or volunteering. I think these are perfectly acceptable questions to pose, and they can be answered simply and quickly.....
Woof
Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
September 11 2012 21:13 GMT
#56
On September 12 2012 06:08 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 06:06 Maxd11 wrote:
Wow these people seem really jealous of Snet's incredible generosity. Believe it or not some people are just good.
Thank you for blogging and please continue despite the naysayers.


I think most people are just a little suspicious of the inconsistencies we've seen here, not trying to discredit the act of saving lives. I'm not taking sides at all until he gives an explanation.


Actually I was reading through some of his old blogs since this did question his authenticity and I just wanted to reassure myself and I found this.
I had the money to spare after hundreds and hundreds of hours of stressful, long, and often saddening hours of emergency medical services.

So I guess I'll hop on the conspiracy bandwagon but if he's not lying we should all feel ashamed.
I looked in the mirror and saw biupilm69t
rogzardo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
610 Posts
September 11 2012 21:14 GMT
#57
On September 12 2012 04:47 paper wrote:
I'm just gonna say it.

I don't like these blogs at all. Is it truly altruism if you boast about it? No, it's just legal public masturbation.


Agreed. All I can think of is the Seinfeld where Jerry dates the dermatologist who constantly harps about saving lives. This is why doctors are often douchebags.
DKR
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 21:16:40
September 11 2012 21:14 GMT
#58
On September 12 2012 06:06 Maxd11 wrote:
Wow these people seem really jealous of Snet's incredible generosity. Believe it or not some people are just good.
Thank you for blogging and please continue despite the naysayers.


http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=239214
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=337998

First blog shows snet quoting his wage, the second confirming he still gets paid and the current one shoes him saying he does it for free. I'm sure there's a misunderstanding which will be cleared up but at the moment it looks pretty bad. Innocent until proven guilty.
"1 base. Cheese man." - MKP. "[MVP] is not stylistic, his style is winning, which is the style you want to have." - Artosis
FryBender
Profile Joined January 2011
United States290 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 21:26:51
September 11 2012 21:26 GMT
#59
Actually this explains it all.

Snet wrote

I continued with my EMT work. I worked Friday, Saturday, Sunday. 1700-0500. What shitty hours for a twenty year old. Practically no social life. But the money was good for my age, and the job was self-rewarding. During the week I volunteered at the local rescue squad to burn time (basically doing what I do on the weekends for free). This became my life. Other than that it was all starcraft, parties, and chicks if I was lucky enough. I'm no romeo, mind you.


Looks like he does both. But personally I still think that there is way too much "look at how cool I am I save lives I'm the greatest person in the world" in these blogs. And other EMTs have pointed out:
renent wrote

At my level of care almost all our skills/interventions are just to extend the patients life so they can get to a higer level of care where the true treatment needs to happen.


So I highly doubt that in his 4 years he has somehow been able to do all this insane stuff when most EMTs complain how mundane their work is.
Renent
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 21:33:53
September 11 2012 21:28 GMT
#60
On September 12 2012 02:04 Dandel Ion wrote:

I'm also sure he made some parts look nicer or more awesome than they most likely were, but I'm used to that. You see that a lot with paramedics, especially volunteers. I don't think it's in itself a bad thing, you just compare penis sizes with the others about how awesome you were saving the life of guy X, or how horrible accident Y was (but of course YOU kept your cool and totally did everything right).
People kinda NEED to do that, especially when you don't (really) get paid.
Let me put it out there: The work sucks.
Period.
People die, people almost die, people have conditions that are WORSE than dying, etc. You have to make it good somehow in your mind, or you start asking yourself "why am I actually doing this again?" And to that question, you will not have a good answer. So you have to lie to yourself, and think "I do this because I'm awesome. And doing it is awesome. And since I'm awesome, I'm SO doing this"

The part where that goes wrong is when you stop just lying to yourself, and start lying to everyone else.
People that work as medics are very hit-and-miss in my experience.
There are a ton of really chill guys that are a ton of fun to hang out with (hanging out is >50% of the "worktime" as a medic, because more often than not, nothing actually happens.)
Then there are some people that are absolutely astronomical dicks. Arrogant assholes, the worst of the worst.
And everything inbetween exists too.


What I'm saying is:
Never go into a blog that even remotely deals with medical stuff and expect to read the truth. Never.
Even the nicest guys bolster up their emergencies right after they happened and you talk about it on the station. And by the time something makes it into a blog, it's never even remotely accurate anymore. I wouldn't take a blog written by my best medic-buddies as the truth, so I sure as hell won't trust some random on the internet.

That in itself may not be understandable to an outsider, but trust me it's how shit works, and it has it's place.
Always take the content with more than just one grain of salt.


I don't lie to myself about what I do.
I don't make it good in my mind.
On most days I work a majority of my shift including timing out at 16-18 hours.

Usually when I talk to my other EMS related buddies or work partners the calls are 100 percent truth, because bullshitting Ricky Rescues are identified quick. If I lied about my call, chances are my fellow workers are going to audit the PCR and then call bullshit on my stories. Partners not trusting each other does not bode well for the working relationship.

Sorry, I just wanted to give my perspective as your post does NOT represent EMS in my view.

However, I don't work where you work so it could be 100 percent of a different community where you are.
Woof
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