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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 15:05:22
September 05 2012 15:03 GMT
#21
On September 05 2012 23:56 Shady Sands wrote:
Thanks guys. Somebody just put this up on reddit lol

http://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/ze60c/china_is_an_elephant/


Lol at one of the comments


This must be the worst overview of China's economic history I've ever read. Constant crazy conspiracy theories combined with a bizarre misreading of history.


You know I'm always a fan, SS.

Edit: How did you even find that post?
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
September 05 2012 15:05 GMT
#22
On September 06 2012 00:03 Azera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 23:56 Shady Sands wrote:
Thanks guys. Somebody just put this up on reddit lol

http://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/ze60c/china_is_an_elephant/


Lol at one of the comments

Show nested quote +

This must be the worst overview of China's economic history I've ever read. Constant crazy conspiracy theories combined with a bizarre misreading of history.


You know I'm always a fan, SS.

Edit: How did you even find that on such an obscure subreddit?

o_O I browse the China subreddit at least once a day
Что?
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
September 05 2012 15:09 GMT
#23
Great read, thank you!
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 05 2012 15:14 GMT
#24
Just seems like you're yanking your own chain is all...
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
September 05 2012 15:15 GMT
#25
On September 06 2012 00:14 Azera wrote:
Just seems like you're yanking your own chain is all...

Nah, not this time. Too old for that now...
Что?
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
September 05 2012 15:18 GMT
#26
Where does all this actually come from? it seems you just took some points in history and made up your own stories around them.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
September 05 2012 15:21 GMT
#27
great insights and an interesting read. coming from consultancy, i applaud your structure, grammar and story. better than 99% of the stuff i read here.
thanks
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
September 05 2012 15:25 GMT
#28
Great post.
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Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 05 2012 15:25 GMT
#29
One of the images 404'd I think
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Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
September 05 2012 15:26 GMT
#30
And how exactly does all this affect america?
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 15:52:02
September 05 2012 15:34 GMT
#31
Unfortunately this stuff just flies over my head

edit : haters on reddit. Whats your response?
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Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
September 05 2012 15:56 GMT
#32
That last part is just your speculation right? Because I can see no way that the Party will relinquish their control and establish a Western-style democracy. (Or even a Sacha Baron Cohen style democracy). Even at the grassroots level (villages etc) which the Party is very keen on propagandising on the 7 o'clock news, a candidate can only get "elected" with approval of superior authorities and dissenting and popular alternatives are disappeared. Also it's in the Chinese Constitution that the Communist Party is the sole ruling party. Barring a revolution or a revolutionary leader (which looks unlikely with the current cronies), that part is not going to be changed anytime soon.

Meanwhile, inflation+monopolistic banks+monopolistic SOEs+high taxes+corruption+no good investment outlet continue to put average Chinese people's money into Communist pockets, and the ever-obedient populace can but look on in despair at yet another Error 101 while searching on the internet about the latest collapsing bridge.

Sucks to live in China. /Rant over
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FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
September 05 2012 16:02 GMT
#33
Wow this was an epic post, i'm glad i read it. Very insightful.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 05 2012 16:10 GMT
#34
This isn't exactly the mainstream view of chinese politics, at least from what I've read. It's a reasonable and interesting pseudo revisionist look though.
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 16:59:24
September 05 2012 16:31 GMT
#35
Well, it's hard for me to judge your work, especially as you do not show any proof or at least sources about what you talking about. Plus I'm not competent nor expert about China. As nttea said :

On September 06 2012 00:18 nttea wrote:
Where does all this actually come from? it seems you just took some points in history and made up your own stories around them.


Besides that limitation, I'm willing to say that there's nothing new under the Sun. Someone might write a very similar account (mutatis mutandis) of the birth of most of our own democracy, or, as Castoriadis loved to called them, our own liberal oligarchy...
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 05 2012 16:37 GMT
#36
Thr history was good but I feel like you go a tad overboard on the speculation. Also you don't clearly distinguish between fact and speculation, which obfuscates it for people who don't delve into the finer points of recent Chinese history :d it's poor practice to pass off your own opinion alongside historical fact as if there's no difference ~.~

That said it was very well written and an interesting read. Certainly a compelling narrative.
TranslatorBaa!
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
September 05 2012 16:49 GMT
#37
Wow this was a great read.
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
September 05 2012 17:35 GMT
#38
This was amazing, and a good educational blog. My eyes are opened to this. I was always very curious about China's state of politics and economy. I've watched numerous documentaries about the exploding (i say exploding and not booming because it's literally like an explosion the rate things are going) real estate market is there, and it mirrors what happened here in the states when real estate boom was getting ridiculous. My fiancee went back to china recently and said it felt so non-communist compared to before that she hardly recognized it, and was surprised when I told her they are still technically 'communist'.

It'll be interesting to see how this pans out and what comes of it. While shady and scary, and elephants abound, China may become the US's greatest ally in levying both of our huge debts that are looming, and actually help the US get out of it's current economic crisis. I don't understand it well enough to elaborate, but China's growth and eventual short decline, will be something I feel the US will greatly expose and use to it's own benefit.
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stew_
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada239 Posts
September 05 2012 17:37 GMT
#39
amazing read. could you do one for japan? i've never fully understood why their economy got completely owned in the late 80's.
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MasterMonkey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States96 Posts
September 05 2012 17:50 GMT
#40
Very, very well done. I have lived in and have been studying many aspects of China for the past several years (Mandarin, Chinese culture, Chinese politics, China's economy) and you just really nailed it. Really, really puts things in perspective for me.
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