EPTsc2 casters & people need to stop shitting on LoL - Page 2
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Irre
United States646 Posts
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
PS: LoL's overall design feel so amateurish, they could learn a lot from valve imo. Just my 2 cents. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On July 05 2012 20:12 Netsky wrote: I don't dislike LoL at all, but I do think it's a complete joke of a competitive game compared to BW or SC2. Riot have done a great job marketing the game and obviously their business model has been successful - more power to them. I LoLed. I love but statements. ._. | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
On July 05 2012 22:50 Kipsate wrote: You are posting on a Forum consisting out of SC2 and Brood War players/people who watch it, Teamliquid is heavily elitist and biased towards these (hardcore) games. Most of the these people look down upon games which are ''casual'', don't be suprised that is just how it works, you are not going to find much joy and rainbows argueing with people here, luckily the LoL subforums was made for that. Hes got the right idea  | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Let me address people and casters separately. People do need to shut up about LoL. I don't play MOBAs but if I did I would be thoroughly annoyed by people constantly bashing my game simply because it exists simultaneously alongside my game. Just like how BW vs SC2 gets.. -_-. Anyway it's not cool and I'm fine if people get temp'd or whatever when they drag threads off topic with whine about a different game. That's fine. Casters however, I don't use the same term to describe talk show hosts and guests.. If like, Wolf and Khaldor just paused for a minute in the middle of a broadcast to shout "LOL SUCKS LULZ" it would be one thing but from what I think you're referring to, SotG type shows, who cares. They have to fill their overly long shows with some kind of conversation and it's rarely good anyway. Just ignore it. However casters should avoid bashing LoL during actual casting (during actual games) of course. Sorry the community here is a dick at times but the community is a dick to everyone at times. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On July 05 2012 22:33 Alpino wrote: SC2 is one of the worst things that ever happened to games, the community sucks, it is in its base SC heavily casualized, the game model makes me want to cry and above all else, the units are SO BORING IT'S UNBELIEVABLE, none of them can be really strong in something specific because it would make the game uh what is it? HARD for newbs(supposed to be one of the defining things of rts games). I've already tried to play this game four times and it says a lot about the game that I without knowing what the units did could pumbstomp every game with zerg. PS: SC2's overall design feel so amateurish, they could learn a lot from valve imo. Just my 2 cents. i fixed that for you | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On July 05 2012 21:51 Irre wrote: Actually, it should get shit, because the game makes professional Esports look TERRIBLE. The players are little kids that behave and present themselves like little kids. Theres edrama with teams rearranging constantly, and the games lack quality across the board pretty much. Giant mistakes are made in almost every game its like watching a really B Level pro match in sc2 at the highest level of LoL. Sounds like Western SC2. Kids & drama & subpar play. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
Most people who ended up sticking with BW actually are looking to LoL as something intriguing. Even among professionals, there were those who held out from SC2, but are now going to LoL for its overwhelming mainstream popularity. I will probably actually watch it if VODs become more easily available for the OGN casts. | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
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Irre
United States646 Posts
On July 05 2012 23:20 Zocat wrote: Sounds like Western SC2. Kids & drama & subpar play. no its nothing like that. Compare EG and then compare any LoL team. The only comparison I could see you making is ROOT to LoL teams but ROOT isnt really a professional team... | ||
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flashimba
225 Posts
On July 05 2012 23:12 Xenocide_Knight wrote: BW fans are loling at this thread The bullied have become the bulliers. | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
Gotta admit I loled. | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
It is very eerie how fitting the quote is when you fix it like that. | ||
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HardlyNever
United States1258 Posts
On July 05 2012 20:07 Fishgle wrote: You don't understand. a huge portion of starcraft fans also hate starcraft. We also hate bacon and candy and boobs. Some of us even hate cute pictures of baby kittens. This. The the most vocal parts of the "community" are always negative. Negativity sells. Hating is "cool." Everything sucks, and anyone could always do a better job than what is done, just for some reason no one will hire any of the right people. Ever. You may as well ask for people to stop hating on Blizzard and agree that SC2 is a worthy successor to BW. It isn't going to happen, especially on TL. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
On July 05 2012 20:44 EnE wrote: I don't hate LoL because of the game itself, I hate it because its a fucking shitty spectator sport. It has so so many more players than sc2 but still barely manages double the tournament views.... we don't WANT a game like that to grow, because it could never grow Esports.... think of if LoL captured 10% of the Western population compared to if Sc2 captured 10% of the western population.... E-sports would be like 20 times as big with Sc2. if a game like sc2 blows up even more and becomes ENORMOUS, then that will simultaneously explode e-sports to the same level because it's a competitive spectator game. If a game like LoL where seemingly 1/1000 of the people even bother to watch a tourney stream becomes ENORMOUS, it'll just suck life from other E-sports...sad but true. You need to not only be a Moba fan but also know all the intricacies of LOL to understand what the fuck is going on. It just doesn't work to be a widespread E-sport. In sc2, you can appreciate a tank blasting a marine without knowing the HP of the marine, the DPS of the tank and taking into account their upgrades, etc. In lol, your not gonna have a clue what any of the random coloured lights mean if you DON'T ALREADY PLAY THE GAME. lol, your case doesnt look very strong when the hard-to-understand-hence-not-mainstream game has more than double the viewers. | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On July 05 2012 23:12 Xenocide_Knight wrote: BW fans are loling at this thread true dat. | ||
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uikos
United States132 Posts
No. because these companies are going to gravitate towards the most profitable games. And LoL is a game with so many players that it has WAY more viewers that starcraft despite the fact it's a crap game. these companies make money from ads and sponsorships, so they're going to want the games that have more viewers. So no. both can't survive unless there are seperate companies running the LoL and SC2 tournaments. Or if LoL events occur at different times as SC2 events. Right now, every company (dreamhack, mlg, ipl, etc.) are trying out the major games simply because esports is new and no one knows what's going to happen. In 5 years, if tournaments are run the same way, only one can survive as an esport. And i'm going to be really pissed if it's LoL that survives. | ||
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