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Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
March 10 2012 16:23 GMT
#81
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
March 10 2012 17:14 GMT
#82
Was 260k+ at the last IEM tourny at Kiev

It's simply a more popular game with a relatively low skill cap
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
March 10 2012 17:38 GMT
#83
On March 11 2012 02:14 MooMooMugi wrote:
Was 260k+ at the last IEM tourny at Kiev

It's simply a more popular game with a relatively low skill cap


it's also a much more global game than SC2

LoL penetration into markets like Asia are much deeper than SC2's due to LoL being F2P and LoL being a less intimidating game to play than SC2
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
March 10 2012 17:52 GMT
#84


We got 260k for Hanover too. Too bad we couldn't get to 333,333 for Carmac to do a cosplay at the next IEM.
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FoeHamr
Profile Joined December 2010
United States489 Posts
March 10 2012 18:05 GMT
#85
Its because league is free and popular. Also Riot puts a giant stream link into the launcher so that the lots of people playing are all aware of the tournaments.
Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
March 10 2012 20:14 GMT
#86
Hate to bump, edit at the top of the post.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
March 10 2012 20:26 GMT
#87
Do players streaming LoL get a ton of viewers? Or is it just these events.
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
March 10 2012 20:32 GMT
#88
On March 11 2012 05:26 Megaliskuu wrote:
Do players streaming LoL get a ton of viewers? Or is it just these events.


The most popular LoL streams (maybe 5-10) average 10-20k and they're on pretty much everyday. There are maybe around another 10-20 streamers with ~1-3k viewers?

As to the difference between IEM and IPL, I think it's due to a European influence. There is a large playerbase in EU and the IPL events so far have been NA only. We'll see how well IPL4 does since there is 1 EU team playing there. Today's IPL event is also a small showmatch with very little advertising (compared to Liquid playing in TB's tournament).
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Sovern
Profile Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
March 10 2012 20:56 GMT
#89
Team based games will almost always fair better than "loner" 1v1 styled games such as SC2. It's not suprising to me that LoL is magnatudes more popular than SC2.
NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
March 10 2012 22:43 GMT
#90
I think IPL was basically just overshadowed by IEM. I personally didn't even know about it untill a friend told (who keeps very close eye on most tournaments) told it was on.

And OP, you are kidding yourself if you think being logged in to the client counts a view. This is a myth created by bitter / butthurt Dota/SC2 players.

Also, the stuff about European influence is also true. IEM had teams from NA, EU and even Asia, obviously making it more popular than IPL.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 10 2012 22:46 GMT
#91
On March 11 2012 07:43 NonFactor wrote:
And OP, you are kidding yourself if you think being logged in to the client counts a view.


I'd actually like to see blizz have an embedded-in-the-client stream thing like what R1CH has set up here: http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/R1CH/NydusNetwork/

Just because it would give exposure to tournaments and streamers. Even if it wouldn't count for "views", it'd increase the interest in esports. That's something I think Riot does very well-- it's a smart company.
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 23:17:16
March 10 2012 23:14 GMT
#92
i don't understand why people hate on the viewer numbers for LoL for one reason:
why is it bad to have more people interested in observing professional level gaming? it doesn't matter what game it is when people all over the world are being exposed to the professional esports scene.

it should also be noted that for the regular daily player streams, riot also goes out of their way to promote some of the streamers as "featured streamers" for a few weeks at a time. the featured players attract 5-6 times the number of viewers they got before being featured by riot.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
March 11 2012 01:16 GMT
#93
when was the last 'LoL' major tournament?
i said it because in the last 2 weeks we had seen MLG arena, ASUS, GSL finals, and IEM, then maybe people is just oversaturated, meanwhile that lol tournament is any kind of event that is not seen often.
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
March 11 2012 01:32 GMT
#94
On March 11 2012 10:16 xuanzue wrote:
when was the last 'LoL' major tournament?
i said it because in the last 2 weeks we had seen MLG arena, ASUS, GSL finals, and IEM, then maybe people is just oversaturated, meanwhile that lol tournament is any kind of event that is not seen often.


Officially, the last major LAN event for LoL was the OGN Invitational in February but there were only 2 international teams (CLG and World Elite). The last truly international LAN would be IEM Kiev while the last major NA and EU tournament were Curse Invitational (Feb 11-25) and Kings of Europe (Jan 28-31), respectively.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-11 01:34:48
March 11 2012 01:33 GMT
#95
The last major (offline) tournament before IEM Hannover was IEM Kiev.
Then next one is IPL4.

LoL definitely does not have the frequency of tournaments like SC2 does.

Edit: JBright ninjas. Last online was Curse LoL Invitational.
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RoboBob
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States798 Posts
March 11 2012 02:38 GMT
#96
I think SC2 is a better esport to watch as a non-player. But LoL has such a massive player base that they've overtaken us in raw number of stream viewers.

I think a lot of it comes down to Riot's awesome marketing. Its obvious that online gaming is transitioning away from big box products towards microtransactions. Blizzard dropped the ball on that one, but it will get a shot in the arm after each expansion comes out.

Another thing that helps LoL is that even though its a tough game to spectate, they put a TON of effort into their spectator mode to minimize that pain as much as possible.
mrGRAPE
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore293 Posts
March 11 2012 03:02 GMT
#97
It's been said before - Blizzard does a terrible job at marketing SC2 to the more casual players - From the ads, down to the community interaction in BNet2.0 and the way streams are inaccessible to casual players who don't know about TeamLiquid or any other community site.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
March 11 2012 03:08 GMT
#98
Well, my take on this is that Isaac Newton, Einstein and Carl Sagan are the same species as Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin and Snooki.

Nobody in their right mind would disagree with me when I say that unfortunately, there are more Snookies than Newtons.
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ImDrizzt
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway427 Posts
March 11 2012 07:03 GMT
#99
On March 08 2012 01:37 theBALLS wrote:
Why do more people watch Jersey Shore than an Attenborough documentary?


LoL!!
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ImDrizzt
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway427 Posts
March 11 2012 07:04 GMT
#100
SC is really different, I notice it when I listen to my mates on skype, they get so mad, angry, frustrated, moaning, being irrational when getting owned, fucking up, not doing well. And then when they are playing a LOL type of game, they easily get a feeling of "ahh, im pretty awesome at thiz yay".

Maybe that helps as well, sc makes you feel x10 worse or something lol
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