EPTSC2 is easier than BW but there is still a learning curve to the game if you want to be a pro, doesnt seem to be as steep in LoL but what would i know. It costs 60$, it has terrible support from blizz, Battlenet 0.2 is DEAD and boring so there isn't much of a reason to stick around after you ladder.
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TanKLoveR
Venezuela838 Posts
SC2 is easier than BW but there is still a learning curve to the game if you want to be a pro, doesnt seem to be as steep in LoL but what would i know. It costs 60$, it has terrible support from blizz, Battlenet 0.2 is DEAD and boring so there isn't much of a reason to stick around after you ladder. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
It's a sucky ass and boring game, but it's casual friendly, free to play and easy to learn, that pretty much explains it. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On March 08 2012 09:43 mordk wrote: LoL is just popular, that's about it. It's like asking why Justin Bieber wins awards and draws huge crowds. It's a sucky ass and boring game, but it's casual friendly, free to play and easy to learn, that pretty much explains it. Where have I heard this one before? Oh yeah, SC2. | ||
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TanKLoveR
Venezuela838 Posts
On March 08 2012 09:44 koreasilver wrote: Where have I heard this one before? Oh yeah, SC2. If it's so easy go win a GSL then. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6593 Posts
that doesn't even relate to what he's saying... go win a LoL tournament at MLG then! ... but yeah Thaniri the client doesn't automatically count you if you log in... if it did I bet the numbers would go near or over a million. | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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Aurra
United States469 Posts
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TanKLoveR
Venezuela838 Posts
On March 08 2012 10:04 OmniEulogy wrote: that doesn't even relate to what he's saying... go win a LoL tournament at MLG then! ... but yeah Thaniri the client doesn't automatically count you if you log in... if it did I bet the numbers would go near or over a million. I would but I don't feel like playing games that cater to the audience that plays farmville. Also lol at comparing GSL to MLG, even LoL can't have such a low level of competition that MLG is the highest level of play. User was warned for this post | ||
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Gryffes
United Kingdom763 Posts
Yeah, that's what lol has going for it for stream numbers. If x% click it, they get higher stream numbers than sc2 viewers. | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On March 08 2012 11:00 TanKLoveR wrote: I would but I don't feel like playing games that cater to the audience that plays farmville. Also lol at comparing GSL to MLG, even LoL can't have such a low level of competition that MLG is the highest level of play. User was warned for this post Shouldn't be playing sc2 then :/ It seems to me like the GSL winners weren't even good enough to qualify for the OSL consistently. Or at all. | ||
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TanKLoveR
Venezuela838 Posts
On March 08 2012 11:57 Xenocide_Knight wrote: Shouldn't be playing sc2 then :/ It seems to me like the GSL winners weren't even good enough to qualify for the OSL consistently. Or at all. I haven't played for almost a year, not just the casual nature of the game but many other reasons. People put the blame on the wrong things about why SC2 is more "casual", going back to your main to check on your workers to put them to mine every 40 secs is hardly something that will make a huge difference in the game, same with all the other easier macro mechanics. The game is so much more different and casual cause of the new REALLY easy to use units like the colossus, roach, marauder, infestor and so on, they are just easier to use version of the reaver, firebat, hydralisk? and the defiler. SC2 lacks that finesse BW had when a player made an awesome move like a sick reaver micro, some awesome storm or an awesome recall and so on because SC2 is just a macro game and that really detracts from the FUN it is to watch at least in my opinion. At the end of the day Blizzard has changed a lot, they are following zynga in their business models which is make games for the general public and not for gamers. I'm a gamer and i dont need to have things explained to me like im 5, i don't mind going online to look up what are the best talent trees/builds etc and i can put up with some frustration while learning something cause im used to it. Your average girl, 14 year old and "adult" just want instant gratification and that's all there is to it. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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nufcrulz
Singapore934 Posts
I've tried watching LoL games to try to b open minded about it, but my brain kinda hurts after a while trying to decipher what's going on in the fights, Dota games are way more fun to watch in my opinion, and once Dota 2 gets released and is free to play I have a feeling LoL is gonna lose a lot of viewers | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On March 08 2012 15:23 nufcrulz wrote: LoL is just more popular among casual gamers. I don't understand why they like it, but they do.. I've tried watching LoL games to try to b open minded about it, but my brain kinda hurts after a while trying to decipher what's going on in the fights, Dota games are way more fun to watch in my opinion, and once Dota 2 gets released and is free to play I have a feeling LoL is gonna lose a lot of viewers Eh, as a long time Dota player, I initially thought the same thing about lol but now, after 2 years of lol, I can much more easily tell whats happening in teamfights in lol over dota. Just getting used to it I guess. I also think that Dota->LoL is an easier transition than the other way around. At least for me, Dota is much less forgiving mechanically and positionally. You do something stupid in LoL and you can flash/cleanse out of it but in Dota you're instagibbed. Also, if you feed the wrong person in Dota.. game just over. | ||
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TrainSamurai
339 Posts
On March 08 2012 12:54 TanKLoveR wrote: I haven't played for almost a year, not just the casual nature of the game but many other reasons. People put the blame on the wrong things about why SC2 is more "casual", going back to your main to check on your workers to put them to mine every 40 secs is hardly something that will make a huge difference in the game, same with all the other easier macro mechanics. The game is so much more different and casual cause of the new REALLY easy to use units like the colossus, roach, marauder, infestor and so on, they are just easier to use version of the reaver, firebat, hydralisk? and the defiler. SC2 lacks that finesse BW had when a player made an awesome move like a sick reaver micro, some awesome storm or an awesome recall and so on because SC2 is just a macro game and that really detracts from the FUN it is to watch at least in my opinion. At the end of the day Blizzard has changed a lot, they are following zynga in their business models which is make games for the general public and not for gamers. I'm a gamer and i dont need to have things explained to me like im 5, i don't mind going online to look up what are the best talent trees/builds etc and i can put up with some frustration while learning something cause im used to it. Your average girl, 14 year old and "adult" just want instant gratification and that's all there is to it. Ironically to BW players you are the average girl, 14 year old and "adult". On March 08 2012 04:39 Megaliskuu wrote: All the LoL hate around here is funny, LoL is to Sc2 what SC2 is to BW. I guess it isn't called SC3 so BW people just don't care. Imagine if LoL was named SC3:BW, that shit would be infuriating xD | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
1. LoL/and even Dota is just more popular than SC2 in terms of player base. Even if Tourney streams are embedded/advertised in Bnet, it's not gonna help much. How many players are still active in SC2 anyway. Very little compared to release. Especially compared to LoL who pulls millions 2. Team games > Individual games. In ANYTHING be it esports or real sports. Soccer is world's most popular sport. Top 3 major sports in the US are football/basketball/baseball ( all team sports). This is even more prevalent in Asian countries where the culture of going to LAN Cafe/PC Bangs are popular. They don't play as much from home. It is a social experience.When you have LAN Parties, you want a game where all 10 people can play with each other. Instead of having 1v1 x 5. Team Games for SC2 sucks, partly because Bnet 2.0 messed up with the custom games and of course no LAN. When someone brought his friend to a Internet Cafe, he can't introduce his friend to SC2 because guess what, his friend would need to have his own account or to buy a prepaid account. 3. The part about SC2 being more challenging is barely a reason. Soccer / Basketball is in principle a much simpler sport compared to Decathlon. Just kick the ball around/Throw the ball into the basket compared to Mastering 10 disciplines of athletics. Doesn't mean soccer/basketball is an inferior sport. 4. LoL/Dota players still love to play the game whereas for SC2 , even in Teamliquid, there are countless people who " Oh I don't even play the game anymore because ladder fear / bnet2.0 sucks/lonely/no friends/ imba/map sucks, I only watch competitive games" This is not sustainable and it hinders the growth of the game. Sure people argue that SC2 can be enjoyed by people who don't play the game. But how realistic it is in the context of western esport. Will a lot of people really bother to check out Professional Gamers and appreciate what they do if they don't play the game themselves? To be honest, much of the blame lies with Blizzard. If only they fix the custom/team games so it is at least as fun as wc3. Fix Bnet2.0 so it's a more social experience, then you'll have more people playing the game and consequently watching the game. | ||
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TanKLoveR
Venezuela838 Posts
On March 08 2012 18:37 TrainSamurai wrote: Ironically to BW players you are the average girl, 14 year old and "adult". You really can't compare Koreans to the rest of the world, they grew up with that stuff either playing it since they were little like we did or grew up admiring these players and wanted to be them. Very different from your average girl who plays Zynga games on facebook, or stay home mom, or dad who plays some games on the weekend. These people are not used to how games were before, people who play BW are. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
Or are you just talking out of your ass. | ||
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TanKLoveR
Venezuela838 Posts
On March 09 2012 01:06 koreasilver wrote: lol why do people think the gaming demographic is really that different in Korea? Of course Korea has more vibrant and normalized gaming scene, but casual gamers are still the great majority. Have people completely forgotten Ragnarok, Maplestory, and all those other silly games that people just play to relieve stress or to have fun on the weekend? Or is everyone just ignoring that stuff. Or are you just talking out of your ass. Ok fine i guess i miss spoke with that last one, if you're referring to me. I should have said You really can't compare how BW fans in Korea to the rest of the world, they grew up with that game. But yea I'm sure the masses in Korea play silly games just like everybody else. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
If LoL is so easy get some sc2 player to easily go win a LoL tournament then? o.o Strange argument. | ||
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