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So there are two ways leagues like MLG, IPL and GSL can make money:
1) Ad-support revenue. Based on the amount of users x the amount of ads = the amount of money they make. Of course, it's more complicated than that, but it's the general idea that's important, not the equation.
2) Subscription revenue. There could be a better title to this, but it's things like Gold Memberships for MLG, or premium for GSL.
Both of these are viable, but there are people out there who neither pay for their streams, nor view the ads because of AdBlock. This creates a wedge in Esports because there's this certain population that wants everything for free, but aren't willing to put forth the effort of either viewing ads (even being on another tab while the ad is playing still counts) or put forth the money for the stream they're watching.
I understand that having to watch Ads is annoying, especially when they are ads that don't relate to you in any way. But if you're one of those people complaining about MLG being PPV, and have adblock on while watching MLG, you're (sorry for the over use of this phrase but...) actually helping kill Esports. Switching to another tab, or hitting the mute button is really not that hard. I'm not saying watching the Ads will definitely save Esports, but you will at least help it.
 
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I have adblock on but don't watch ESPORTS. I am not to blame!
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I'm personally against the use of adblock in any situation. I have no idea why people feel completely entitled to use a service without advertisements provided with it. There actually seems to be a general acceptance towards adblocking in most internet communities which is mind boggling.
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On February 16 2012 08:23 barth wrote:
I'm personally against the use of adblock in any situation.
I feel the same way in many cases, but bear with me here. My problem is mostly with streaming websites, some of which are not reasonable at all. It might be own3d.tv which allows the streamer to throw 1, 2 or 3 ads to the audience, which is extremely annoying - but it could be bearable if I didn't have to watch THREE TIMES the SAME AD on average every 15 minutes.
There's a line between "annoying" and "literally sickening". It's especially annoying when it's one of these quantum POS.
"Bet you think your carpet's pretty clean uh?" is seared into my brain forever.
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On February 16 2012 08:29 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 08:23 barth wrote:
I'm personally against the use of adblock in any situation. I feel the same way in many cases, but bear with me here. My problem is mostly with streaming websites, some of which are not reasonable at all. It might be own3d.tv which allows the streamer to throw 1, 2 or 3 ads to the audience, which is extremely annoying - but it could be bearable if I didn't have to watch THREE TIMES the SAME AD on average every 15 minutes. There's a line between "annoying" and "literally sickening". It's especially annoying when it's one of these quantum POS. "Bet you think your carpet's pretty clean uh?" is seared into my brain forever.
As long as you're not complaining about having to pay for Arenas, then Adblock your heart out! I understand that it's annoying, but again, you have a mute button on your PC, among other things. There's even mute buttons on the Ads themselves. It just seems like such a little price to pay for helping whatever stream you're watching.
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I have never had any kind of adblock.
I started to consider it since grooveshark put ads with f*cking sound on their site though.
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MLG's ads dont get adblocked. They run hard video ads from inside the video, not video ad overlays.
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On February 16 2012 08:30 hoby2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 08:29 Djzapz wrote:On February 16 2012 08:23 barth wrote:
I'm personally against the use of adblock in any situation. I feel the same way in many cases, but bear with me here. My problem is mostly with streaming websites, some of which are not reasonable at all. It might be own3d.tv which allows the streamer to throw 1, 2 or 3 ads to the audience, which is extremely annoying - but it could be bearable if I didn't have to watch THREE TIMES the SAME AD on average every 15 minutes. There's a line between "annoying" and "literally sickening". It's especially annoying when it's one of these quantum POS. "Bet you think your carpet's pretty clean uh?" is seared into my brain forever. As long as you're not complaining about having to pay for Arenas, then Adblock your heart out! I understand that it's annoying, but again, you have a mute button on your PC, among other things. There's even mute buttons on the Ads themselves. It just seems like such a little price to pay for helping whatever stream you're watching.
The mute buttons sometimes don't work and occasionally are part of the ad, and lead to the advertiser's website. Other times there's no mute button at all - depends on the ad. Not to mention, the ads are sometimes much louder than the content. Meanwhile I'm oftentimes doing other things, I don't need to be clicking a tiny mute button all the time.
I'm fine with single ads, or maybe various ads, two at a time. If they're reasonable with it, fine, they can bother me with it. They've shown that they're not, especially not in Canada where they oftentimes only have one ad to throw at us, so we watch it over and over and over and over again, sometimes for MONTHS.
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On February 16 2012 08:29 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 08:23 barth wrote:
I'm personally against the use of adblock in any situation. I feel the same way in many cases, but bear with me here. My problem is mostly with streaming websites, some of which are not reasonable at all. It might be own3d.tv which allows the streamer to throw 1, 2 or 3 ads to the audience, which is extremely annoying - but it could be bearable if I didn't have to watch THREE TIMES the SAME AD on average every 15 minutes. There's a line between "annoying" and "literally sickening". It's especially annoying when it's one of these quantum POS. "Bet you think your carpet's pretty clean uh?" is seared into my brain forever.
All right, suppose someone is against piracy and a game that he wants to have comes out as a full price title. This person thinks that it's only worth about $20 even though it's a good game. Would it be acceptable (assuming piracy normally isn't) for him to pirate the game? Or should he ignore the game and move on to a different product if $50 is out of the question for him?
I don't know if the analogy even holds up but that's exactly how I see it.
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All these threads with killing ESPORTS is getting on my nerve, maybe esports doesnt need our help and it will manage itself out if its meant for it to work. Ive been hearing about helping esports for far too many years, maybe the princess is in another castle...
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I only recntly started using adblock, coz if I have to hear the same fucking annoying ad about dog biscuits 8 times within a 10 minute window I'm gonna kill myself
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According to this thread 41% of users adblock TL, a website with tons of loyal fans. I think it's safe to say the adblock rate for streams is probably way higher, I'm guessing anywhere from 60-80%. Even though I think MLG is going about it the wrong way, I can understand why they're trying to implement a pay model. As far as the sponsors are concerned, 200,000 viewers on the internet =/= 200,000 viewers on TV. Of course for me personally, I don't adblock e-sports related websites so I don't give a crap about the "buy this or you're ruining e-sports" mentality.
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Most and or all real tournaments arent run off the actual ads built in via say twich or own3d. It's all hard ads showing straight in the video from the tournaments sponsors, its garantueed views.
I dont run adblock on either twitch or own3d and infact I never even had a commercial for a long time on twitch, but they started popping now, I guess they're getting better fill rates. Overall using adblock on something like the Shoutcrafts is just downright silly since thats its only revenue, while for MLG or similar its largely irrelevant since they dont use the ingame ads and or they have a deal with twitch anyway.
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Killing ESPORTS threads are killing ESPORTS
I sorta agree, but there are ways around it like darkscream mentioned. A company could stream an advert as a direct video as opposed to other methods
But it is hurting streamers and lower levels tourneys ,that's for sure
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Adblock doesnt work on MLG anyway. I would turn it off if I didn't get spammed at un reasonable amounts and had the ads ontop of games. I have no problem with them inbetween or during loading, but over the game.. no thanks.
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On February 16 2012 08:40 barth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 08:29 Djzapz wrote:On February 16 2012 08:23 barth wrote:
I'm personally against the use of adblock in any situation. I feel the same way in many cases, but bear with me here. My problem is mostly with streaming websites, some of which are not reasonable at all. It might be own3d.tv which allows the streamer to throw 1, 2 or 3 ads to the audience, which is extremely annoying - but it could be bearable if I didn't have to watch THREE TIMES the SAME AD on average every 15 minutes. There's a line between "annoying" and "literally sickening". It's especially annoying when it's one of these quantum POS. "Bet you think your carpet's pretty clean uh?" is seared into my brain forever. All right, suppose someone is against piracy and a game that he wants to have comes out as a full price title. This person thinks that it's only worth about $20 even though it's a good game. Would it be acceptable (assuming piracy normally isn't) for him to pirate the game? Or should he ignore the game and move on to a different product if $50 is out of the question for him? I don't know if the analogy even holds up but that's exactly how I see it.
I get your point and I understand that there's some kind of element of "theft" to adblocking in some way.
I don't have a perfect answer, but for instance I'm not allowed to drive 120kmh on the high way, yet I still do it because I figure it's fine and the 100kmh limit is not reasonable. In parking lots, I'm supposed to drive 15kmh - do you have any idea how slow that is? I don't do that either. If there are "laws" that I can break because I consider them to be bad, sometimes I will. Chaining the same ads 3x in a row at me every 15 minutes is frustrating and not fair to me. Give me two different ads or no ad at all - that may be fine, but 3x the same thing is literally disrespectful to me, and so I don't feel like I owe anybody since I'm getting treated like shit.
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I'm gonna murder E-Sports because it's such a pussy, because it can't handle a simple fucking adblock.
And stupid people will mourn, grieve and attend the funeral and I will kill them too with a simple fucking adblock.
Killing E-sports threads are so stupid. Seriously.
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For all the retarded things people say are "killing esports" this is the only legitimate one. That being said I think streams, especially tournaments, should use their own ads rather than ads that are blockable. Look at IEM they are doing it right. They have their own ads running on the stream during downtimes, and most importantly they advertise products people in the gaming community might actually care about.
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Adblock is most certainly not the killing Esports. People misusing Adblock and/or people abusing adverts are what can hurt Esports. I for instance use Adblock every single day, but if a content provider provides good quality content without abusing advertisements then I'll unblock the site. TeamLiquid.net is the perfect example, I have the site unblocked because the ads aren't intrusive while providing original and good content. Streams on the site are a different matter and I judge them on an individual basis.
The point is, I block a hell of a lot of sites though and my decision may harm Esports or their decisions on how to use advertising may, but Adblock is simply a tool that doesn't harm Esports at all. Those who provide the Adblock tool for Firefox also suggest that people don't abuse Adblock.
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i don't adblock sites i like...the only streams i adblock are the own3d.tv literally i swear once i had adblock off 3 god damn ads are thrown at me. Twitch is reasonable, one when you load and one after the game or maybe 2 if its a long break, those i don't mind. But god damn own3d.tv
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running a /commercial every 5 minutes tends to make you want to turn on adblock
or just stop viewing the stream altogether
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Just like how DVR/TiVO killed television right?
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On February 16 2012 09:57 Silidons wrote:
Just like how DVR/TiVO killed television right?
TV is dieing as a media actualy.
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I use Noscript, but like 80% of the time I see ads so I don't consider it to be too bad.
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On February 16 2012 10:00 sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 09:57 Silidons wrote:
Just like how DVR/TiVO killed television right? TV is dieing as a media actualy.
only because of the internet. nothing to do with commercials.
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People need to stop harking on the OP. Esports isn't some multibillion dollar industry and the fact that adblock can negate 30-40% of revenue for streamers is a big deal when they don't get by on much.
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On February 16 2012 09:57 Silidons wrote:
Just like how DVR/TiVO killed television right?
You actually make a good point... sort of. While I do agree that DVR makes it so you can skip commercials, tv shows have gotten to a point that it doesn't matter if people watch commercials or not. Making these allusions to TV don't really work because you're talking about an established industry that has been around for AT LEAST 20+ years. Streaming has only really been popular in the past couple of years.
That's why I think it's silly that people come up with comparisions of TV and Streaming - One has been around for 20 years so saying that not watching commercials on TV is like not watching commercials on a stream are completely different.
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On February 16 2012 09:36 a176 wrote:
running a /commercial every 5 minutes tends to make you want to turn on adblock
or just stop viewing the stream altogether
But that's an issue with the streamers, not the ads themselves. I think it's important to realize the difference because if it was automatic, then I think your point would be more relevant. But at the moment (from what I've seen anyway) it all depends on the streamer. So blaming the ads, and getting AdBlock is only avoiding the problem - not addressing or fixing it.
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The elephant tears! Stop them! They make me cry too!
I just hate justin.tv commercials because apparently my region only has ONE ad. It's a cogeco internet ad (which I already fucking have, haha) so it see it over and over. And over. And over. If they run multiple commercials I see it multiple times.
So please, Twitch, get more sponsors from my region. Because I already bought the thing that you're advertising at me. WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM MEEE
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Money doesn't make ESPORTS happen! ESPORTS is made of pure love and rainbows!
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I never really understood why people even made such hissy fit over ads. They're put on between and queuing up matches. You mean to tell me you don't want to waste 10-30 seconds of ads because you want to stare at a screen while matchmaker finds a game for the streamer you are watching?
It's so fucking stupid. Lol at first world problems, seriously.
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On February 16 2012 11:40 matiK23 wrote:
I never really understood why people even made such hissy fit over ads. They're put on between and queuing up matches. You mean to tell me you don't want to waste 10-30 seconds of ads because you want to stare at a screen while matchmaker finds a game for the streamer you are watching?
It's so fucking stupid. Lol at first world problems, seriously.
I don't want to hear the same loud silly dialog three times in a row while I browse and do other things while the matchmaker is finding a game. I think you'd have to be a sucker to just be fine with it.
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On February 16 2012 11:48 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 11:40 matiK23 wrote:
I never really understood why people even made such hissy fit over ads. They're put on between and queuing up matches. You mean to tell me you don't want to waste 10-30 seconds of ads because you want to stare at a screen while matchmaker finds a game for the streamer you are watching?
It's so fucking stupid. Lol at first world problems, seriously. I don't want to hear the same loud silly dialog three times in a row while I browse and do other things while the matchmaker is finding a game. I think you'd have to be a sucker to just be fine with it.
I would only be a sucker if I didn't realize the real world situation at hand. It's not like I'm sitting there idly supporting something I don't care for. I'm support the stream that I'm watching, that's why I let the ad play the "same loud silly dialog three times in a row." Because it doesn't mean anything. I know the purpose of the ad is purely to support whoever's stream I'm watching. I'm not just being suckered into wasting my previous ear seconds for something that I don't really care about.
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Ads are a major, and sometimes ONLY source of income for many online-derived businesses. I believe the next paradigm shift for earning money online is by selling physical goods and thus an online store for the site. You can't tell people to not block their ads because the computer-savvy ones will, regardless.
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On February 16 2012 12:44 hoby2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 11:48 Djzapz wrote:On February 16 2012 11:40 matiK23 wrote:
I never really understood why people even made such hissy fit over ads. They're put on between and queuing up matches. You mean to tell me you don't want to waste 10-30 seconds of ads because you want to stare at a screen while matchmaker finds a game for the streamer you are watching?
It's so fucking stupid. Lol at first world problems, seriously. I don't want to hear the same loud silly dialog three times in a row while I browse and do other things while the matchmaker is finding a game. I think you'd have to be a sucker to just be fine with it. I would only be a sucker if I didn't realize the real world situation at hand. It's not like I'm sitting there idly supporting something I don't care for. I'm support the stream that I'm watching, that's why I let the ad play the "same loud silly dialog three times in a row." Because it doesn't mean anything. I know the purpose of the ad is purely to support whoever's stream I'm watching. I'm not just being suckered into wasting my previous ear seconds for something that I don't really care about.
Consider that making me watch the same ad 3 times in a row is not only disrespectful to me, but it will make me actively AVOID the product that's being advertised. Do you really think Own3d.tv DESERVES the money they get from showing me the same ad over and over again? There are diminishing returns at work here.
Showing me the same ****ing thing sometimes hundreds of times in bursts of 3 back-to-back ads is not what the advertiser intended. I'm sure Finish Quantum did not intend to quite literally spam me, and I'm pretty sure any marketing firms realize that it's not the optimal way to spend their money. I would consider that showing me the same ad sometimes around 10 times an hour, own3d.tv is "stealing" money from the advertisers with their dishonest practice.
It can be argued that it's not their fault because maybe they just don't pay attention to zones which only have one ad, I don't know. What I can tell you though is if I put an ad of my company in own3d.tv's hands and I was made aware that some people got my ad 3 times in a row and I have to PAY to expose a person to a loop of ONE ad, I wouldn't be too happy with that partnership.
As long as Own3d.tv decides to disrespect the advertisers and myself, I'll protest quietly. And if a streamer clicks the "show 3 ads" button anyway, I'm probably not going to be a fan for very long.
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On February 16 2012 14:09 newvsoldschool wrote:
Ads are a major, and sometimes ONLY source of income for many online-derived businesses. I believe the next paradigm shift for earning money online is by selling physical goods and thus an online store for the site. You can't tell people to not block their ads because the computer-savvy ones will, regardless.
I'm not telling people not to - I'm saying that if you're complaining about PPV and you're one of those people who uses AdBlock on streams, then you either keep AdBlock on and don't complain, or you turn AdBlock off then start complaining. You can't have both. The two sentiments contradict each other.
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On February 16 2012 15:38 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 12:44 hoby2000 wrote:On February 16 2012 11:48 Djzapz wrote:On February 16 2012 11:40 matiK23 wrote:
I never really understood why people even made such hissy fit over ads. They're put on between and queuing up matches. You mean to tell me you don't want to waste 10-30 seconds of ads because you want to stare at a screen while matchmaker finds a game for the streamer you are watching?
It's so fucking stupid. Lol at first world problems, seriously. I don't want to hear the same loud silly dialog three times in a row while I browse and do other things while the matchmaker is finding a game. I think you'd have to be a sucker to just be fine with it. I would only be a sucker if I didn't realize the real world situation at hand. It's not like I'm sitting there idly supporting something I don't care for. I'm support the stream that I'm watching, that's why I let the ad play the "same loud silly dialog three times in a row." Because it doesn't mean anything. I know the purpose of the ad is purely to support whoever's stream I'm watching. I'm not just being suckered into wasting my previous ear seconds for something that I don't really care about. Consider that making me watch the same ad 3 times in a row is not only disrespectful to me, but it will make me actively AVOID the product that's being advertised. Do you really think Own3d.tv DESERVES the money they get from showing me the same ad over and over again? There are diminishing returns at work here. Showing me the same ****ing thing sometimes hundreds of times in bursts of 3 back-to-back ads is not what the advertiser intended. I'm sure Finish Quantum did not intend to quite literally spam me, and I'm pretty sure any marketing firms realize that it's not the optimal way to spend their money. I would consider that showing me the same ad sometimes around 10 times an hour, own3d.tv is "stealing" money from the advertisers with their dishonest practice. It can be argued that it's not their fault because maybe they just don't pay attention to zones which only have one ad, I don't know. What I can tell you though is if I put an ad of my company in own3d.tv's hands and I was made aware that some people got my ad 3 times in a row and I have to PAY to expose a person to a loop of ONE ad, I wouldn't be too happy with that partnership. As long as Own3d.tv decides to disrespect the advertisers and myself, I'll protest quietly. And if a streamer clicks the "show 3 ads" button anyway, I'm probably not going to be a fan for very long.
You're basically saying that an Ad being played 3 times in a row is disrespectful to you... which I can't change, but this sentiment IN MY OPINION is silly - I mean, I understand that it's annoying, but it's literally 30 seconds of your life. Owned.TV isn't the only one earning money from these ads, the person streaming also earns money.
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On February 17 2012 05:45 hoby2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 15:38 Djzapz wrote:On February 16 2012 12:44 hoby2000 wrote:On February 16 2012 11:48 Djzapz wrote:On February 16 2012 11:40 matiK23 wrote:
I never really understood why people even made such hissy fit over ads. They're put on between and queuing up matches. You mean to tell me you don't want to waste 10-30 seconds of ads because you want to stare at a screen while matchmaker finds a game for the streamer you are watching?
It's so fucking stupid. Lol at first world problems, seriously. I don't want to hear the same loud silly dialog three times in a row while I browse and do other things while the matchmaker is finding a game. I think you'd have to be a sucker to just be fine with it. I would only be a sucker if I didn't realize the real world situation at hand. It's not like I'm sitting there idly supporting something I don't care for. I'm support the stream that I'm watching, that's why I let the ad play the "same loud silly dialog three times in a row." Because it doesn't mean anything. I know the purpose of the ad is purely to support whoever's stream I'm watching. I'm not just being suckered into wasting my previous ear seconds for something that I don't really care about. Consider that making me watch the same ad 3 times in a row is not only disrespectful to me, but it will make me actively AVOID the product that's being advertised. Do you really think Own3d.tv DESERVES the money they get from showing me the same ad over and over again? There are diminishing returns at work here. Showing me the same ****ing thing sometimes hundreds of times in bursts of 3 back-to-back ads is not what the advertiser intended. I'm sure Finish Quantum did not intend to quite literally spam me, and I'm pretty sure any marketing firms realize that it's not the optimal way to spend their money. I would consider that showing me the same ad sometimes around 10 times an hour, own3d.tv is "stealing" money from the advertisers with their dishonest practice. It can be argued that it's not their fault because maybe they just don't pay attention to zones which only have one ad, I don't know. What I can tell you though is if I put an ad of my company in own3d.tv's hands and I was made aware that some people got my ad 3 times in a row and I have to PAY to expose a person to a loop of ONE ad, I wouldn't be too happy with that partnership. As long as Own3d.tv decides to disrespect the advertisers and myself, I'll protest quietly. And if a streamer clicks the "show 3 ads" button anyway, I'm probably not going to be a fan for very long. You're basically saying that an Ad being played 3 times in a row is disrespectful to you... which I can't change, but this sentiment IN MY OPINION is silly - I mean, I understand that it's annoying, but it's literally 30 seconds of your life. Owned.TV isn't the only one earning money from these ads, the person streaming also earns money.
Ads generally last 30 seconds, when they play 3 times in a row that's roughly 90 seconds. Ownedtv earns** money maybe for the first ad because it exposes me to the product, then it steals money from the advertiser (IMO) for the next 2 ads which do NOT expose me nor do they remind me of it. Then, the person streaming gets half the money, 2/3 of which is acquired by shoddy business practices.
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TLO Adblocks TL.net on his stream. He's viewing the forums, with ads blocked.
I mean, If he can, we can.
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On February 17 2012 06:59 darkscream wrote:
TLO Adblocks TL.net on his stream. He's viewing the forums, with ads blocked.
I mean, If he can, we can.
Do what you want, not because a celebrity does something.
OT: i'll addblock every site/streamer and give money to those who provide really valuable content and an opportunity to do a donation. Simply it seems to require to much brain power for a lot of people to provide an alternative instead of the mainstream model based on adds.
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Adblock is a great program, I've donated a considerable sum to the creator. It allows you to choose who and what to support instead of getting force-fed ads all day. I actually think this program should come default with any internet browser. For TL I allow ads, and for most streamers. Its the ones who press "3 ads" every 10 minutes that get blocked because ultimatley who should decide how you spend your precious minutes? Should you be subject to every 30 second or 2 minute advertisment without objection? Choose who is worthy of your valuable time.
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there are plenty of ways around adblock for revenue, such as just playing ads on the stream itself. examples: kingston hyper x , or anything mlg related. \
Poor management is "killing" esports. we are blessed with only a few bright minds running the scene at the moment.
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I'm so tired of having this huge "Korean girls dating" banner most of the time just because I like a game popular in Korea. Especially when I'm browsing results at office.
Fix that algorithm that thinks "video game => single nerd + Starcraft => Korea = Korean girls dating". It's almost insulting.
Use more adapted ads or gtfo.
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i use adblocks on sites on streams etc and i hate MLG giving us so many ads wish i could just block them all as they abuse it and my screen goes black and press F5 oh great 5 more commercials
hate the term killing esport
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tl is the only place i dont mind ads
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if twitch tv and streamers weren't so abusive, then i would. What i mean by that is, when you click on a stream to watch, you are first shown an ad before you watch the stream, ALWAYS. I seriously effing hate that. I usually opt to take a small peek at a stream that i choose to watch to decide if i should watch this or take a peek at another stream (stream surfing,to put it simply). That means i gotta watch an ad every time i change streams before i take a small peek at it. The ads last 30 seconds, the peek lasts for like 10 sec~1 minute. And then you have people like Artosis and incontrol, spamming the 'show ad' button.
I saw a few people who put ads in moderation (grubby and thorzain and some other euro progamer, forgot the name) and i turn adblock off for those people. I find it strange that when i see streams, the european streamers go easy on the ad.
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Impossible to watch anything if not using ad-block. It's just commercials popping 1-2 every minute.
Can't follow the games, it's stupid.
If it was at certain times, one every 30 minutes It'd be no problem, but if SC gets more commercials than actual game it's no point watching it.
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Ads? What are those? Those annoying things you see on the television?
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give me ads where you only have to turn off the sound once that lasts forever, or I will keep blocking.
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i wouldnt mind commercials that are actually entertaining to watch 
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On March 22 2012 21:37 ImDrizzt wrote:
Impossible to watch anything if not using ad-block. It's just commercials popping 1-2 every minute.
Can't follow the games, it's stupid.
If it was at certain times, one every 30 minutes It'd be no problem, but if SC gets more commercials than actual game it's no point watching it.
Errr, what? I've never seen any tournament or stream run ads during games, thats just completely silly and counter-intuitive.
I used to have ad-block installed but I removed it. I honestly don't see what people's problem with 30/90 second ads is at all. I have a wonderful mixer function that lets me mute Chrome if I can't mute an ad on Twitch or Own3d. As for pop-ups/banner ads I guess my ability to focus on the content I really want to read/watch is greater than most :D. For a huge amount of online businesses, not just esports, advertising is often the only form of revenue or at least the most important, especially when it comes to sites that provide content and services for free.
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I just use noscript, but I still get most ads
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I use addblock rather often because adds are usually annoying. I don't like being annoyed.
Though I dont remember addblock ever preventing any video commercials running: I still get them. Though that is certainly not a problem, usually they are not annoying compared to Asian dating sites and stuff. Hell, I even got Dr. Peper drinks from UK when someone I know was on the visit there... (not sold in my country)... because their adds really made me want to taste 
Moral of the story is, make your adds cool and I will watch them and probably even buy something, make them annoying and I will block them without a second thought. I owe nothing to any of the adds companies, MLG, or so called "e-sports". If adblock is killing e-sports, well, too bad, I am so sad, but e-sports is not a religion to me. End of story.
P.S. What really is killing e-sports is constant whining about killing e-sports.
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