• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:29
CEST 03:29
KST 10:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy2GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding3Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Quebec Clan still alive ? Best Time to Book Blue Mountains Private Tours for BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win
Tourneys
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST [BSL22] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CEST 🌍 Weekly Foreign Showmatches
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1824 users

Why do people sing english, in American accents?

Blogs > semantics
Post a Reply
Normal
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 03:16:19
December 25 2011 03:13 GMT
#1
Well this is a question that I've thought about before, anyways I typed it into the google(skynet!) and this is what i found.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/7922639/Rock-n-roll-best-sung-in-American-accents.html#disqus_thread

Ever since the Sixties, some of the biggest names in British music have been accused of faking their style to become stars in the US.

But a study has found that people lapse naturally into a stateside twang because it is actually easier to sing that way – and feels more natural.

That is why it is difficult to detect Robert Plant's West Bromwich roots in the hits of Led Zeppelin, or a London accent in the Rolling Stones or hear any trace of South Wales when husky-voiced Bonnie Tyler belts out a ballad.

According to researcher Andy Gibson, the American voice is easier to sing with and is so commonplace that it should be called the "pop music accent" instead.

Mr Gibson, of the Auckland University of Technology, made the claim after tests on New Zealand singers.

He found that despite speaking with distinct Kiwi accents, they would automatically sing the same words just like true Americans.

This is because singing in a local accent would sound funny and because American rounding off of words makes it easier to sing them.

Mr Gibson said, "There were huge differences between the sung and the spoken pronunciation of the same words.

"Consider the difference between 'I' (spoken) and 'ah' (sung), 'girl', pronounced without the 'r' in speech and with the 'r' in singing, and 'thought' with rounded lips in speech versus 'thart' with unrounded lips in singing.

"Studies in the past have suggested that non-American singers wilfully put on American accents but my research suggests the opposite – that an American-influenced accent is the default when singing pop."

Mr Gibson believed his findings also explain why so many of us end up sounding like cheesy rock stars when we sing our favourite songs in private.

"We do it automatically; it doesn't require any effort to sing with an American-influenced accent," he said.

"The American-influenced accent is automatic in the context of singing pop music, and it is used by people from all around the world.

Which was particular to rock music, which I would agree, I can still find those who sing different tempo and style of music in an accent but rarely do I notice a band doing rock themed music without something resembling mostly an American accent.

Anyways I thought it was interesting. Feel free to make me look like an ass and post music with clearly accents in them. Bonus if the whole song is in English, Rock and comes from a British band.

Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
December 25 2011 03:23 GMT
#2
I will tell this as a fact in conversations until you are disproven
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
PineapplePizza
Profile Joined June 2010
United States749 Posts
December 25 2011 03:27 GMT
#3
There's something funny about your name and this post.

Also, I don't listen to enough music, but something seems terribly wrong about all of this. I can't imagine british Brittons singing anything but English English.
"There should be no tying a sharp, hard object to your cock like it has a mechanical arm and hitting it with the object or using your cockring to crack the egg. No cyborg penises allowed. 100% flesh only." - semioldguy
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
December 25 2011 03:29 GMT
#4
Can you imagine singing in a British accent? Perish the thought.
Logic is Overrated
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
December 25 2011 03:39 GMT
#5
The Kooks are one of the few bands that sound distinctly British when they sing. And they sound so good singing it too. I wouldn't mind more British in the songs I listen to.:


"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 03:44:22
December 25 2011 03:43 GMT
#6
Arctic Monkeys are from Sheffield, England and you can hear the lead singer's accent during the songs.



"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Vestrel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada271 Posts
December 25 2011 04:04 GMT
#7
I thought it was automatic; that's what 'singing voices' sound like. It just so happens that it often sounds like an American accent?
Tomazi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom158 Posts
December 25 2011 04:10 GMT
#8
Queen, pink floyd
Aspiring to be MKP's butler
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 04:43:21
December 25 2011 04:12 GMT
#9
not rock at all, but for reference, the alias acoustic band has wards tah speak with ye



but I would imagine that a large part of it has to do with prosodic parsing of speech-- pitch movement, pausing, lengthening, rate of speech are normally cues we utilize in conversation for pragmatic purposes, and they all differ according to regional accent. In singing these are all determined by the dictates of the music itself more or less and so a significant proportion of our regional flavour to our speech gets normalized.

If you think about this style of music in the above vid, so much more of the musical flow is left to the singer than with other genres (including rock).

(at least it makes sense to me if I think of it this way)
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 25 2011 04:27 GMT
#10
I don't think of it as an "American" accent more of a "neutral" accent. Have you heard a New Zealander try to sing in their accent? Jesus Christ it's horrifying. Same with really any accent in English in my opinion.
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
December 25 2011 04:50 GMT
#11
Ok so I still don't get it, is the article saying that pop singers are being fake, or it is just natural to sing in and "American" accent? Or is it just because American pop is the most popular and most singers want to produce music that is the most popular?
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
December 25 2011 04:50 GMT
#12
On December 25 2011 13:27 Fruscainte wrote:
I don't think of it as an "American" accent more of a "neutral" accent. Have you heard a New Zealander try to sing in their accent? Jesus Christ it's horrifying. Same with really any accent in English in my opinion.

You can't call an American accent a "neutral accent". I'm sure NZ'ers think their accent is normal.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 05:59:16
December 25 2011 04:58 GMT
#13
On December 25 2011 13:50 Emporio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 13:27 Fruscainte wrote:
I don't think of it as an "American" accent more of a "neutral" accent. Have you heard a New Zealander try to sing in their accent? Jesus Christ it's horrifying. Same with really any accent in English in my opinion.

You can't call an American accent a "neutral accent". I'm sure NZ'ers think their accent is normal.

Well American accents vary from region but in particular i was talking about a Hollywood accent with a tinge of southern drawl, ie the accent you get on tv's and movies which is mostly renationalized to west coast if you remove slang. Which is an odd thing to say as quite a bit of American tv shows can end up being produced in Canada by Canadians doing American accents :D, not the majority but more then you would think.
Humanfails
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
224 Posts
December 25 2011 05:00 GMT
#14
On December 25 2011 13:27 Fruscainte wrote:
I don't think of it as an "American" accent more of a "neutral" accent. Have you heard a New Zealander try to sing in their accent? Jesus Christ it's horrifying. Same with really any accent in English in my opinion.


More or less. growing up with music from all over, the nationality of any western english singer was never apparent. Heard of the band Muse? I can barely discern their accent while they sing, its so faint that only a trained ear would recognize, somebody who's heard both american and british accents in tv and in music.

I doubt any musicians do this on purpose. Perhaps this means american accent is derived from a lot of singing? There's a lot of american historical precedent for this idea to have some validity, from the time of the mayflower and since.
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 06:36:53
December 25 2011 05:05 GMT
#15
Interesting, but saying "American accent" is a bit too broad. I think if you compare Cockney English with midwestern-American English, you can definitely hear that the midwestern accent is not as colorful or enunciated as British English. So when singing, it makes sense to me that a British accent might be harder to work. I"m probably biased because I'm from the US, but then again NY/NJ accent is a lot different from the rest of the country

That actually makes me wonder if many American musicians with thick southern or NY accents also switch to a "neutral" American accent while singing? By this articles logic, they should.

EDIT:

The more I think about this the more it seems like a "chicken or the egg" argument. Do singers with a British accent sing with an American accent because it's trendy, or because it's practical? We can find examples of both, but perhaps it's impossible to say how or why it started.

if you look at a lot of the English-speaking singers who do retain their original accent, it seems like it's an intentional stylistic buffer to their concept. Country singers, for instance, always keep the southern drawl and the lyrics/subject matter is also usually tied to this. Another example is British punk/alternative rock, stuff like the sex pistols, the clash, the smiths is supposed to be more down to earth, political/social commentary so adding in the British accent helps put the music in context.

These two groups were both from Manchester but the accents sound completely different while singing. And it doesn't seem like Morrissey's singing is awkward or physically harder.



"See you space cowboy"
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
December 25 2011 05:15 GMT
#16
Well if you look at where rock comes from, which is most rhythm/blues and country there were very much American styles of music at least in terms of popularity one would think rock would be first American. Although when rock became popular a wide mix of American and British bands were popular but at the same time before there was rock there was rock and roll, which was strictly American, Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, The Clovers, Buddy Holly, Johnny Cash at times et al.
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
December 25 2011 06:12 GMT
#17


Just another song where the accent is clearly audible. In generaly I agree that accents are much harder to hear in songs, but I think a lot of it comes from the difference in technique between singing and talking rather than an actual attempt at singing with an american accent.
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
December 25 2011 06:16 GMT
#18
I agree completely with you OP however (and somebody please post this song for me) I respectfully say

Fuck You.



By Lilly Allen.

I'm going to sleep and will edit this some time tomorrow with the video but yeah she clearly has an accent throughout the entire song. And I do so love the British accent <3
LiquidDota Staff
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 25 2011 06:22 GMT
#19
Research.... from AUT? rofl
I'm not taking this seriously until a more reputable source concludes the same findings - AUT is a teaching university that is so insecure it has university twice in its official name (auckland university of technology university). So yeah...
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Ex_Combat
Profile Joined December 2011
35 Posts
December 25 2011 08:46 GMT
#20
I found that some words rhyme only when you sing it in the American accent, I am guessing that's probably why. In Australian, the country singers sing with an American accent too because it makes sounds right that way.

I gotta say, when the Japanese insert English phrases in their songs with the American accent, I really don't understand it.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 25 2011 08:54 GMT
#21
On December 25 2011 15:22 Plexa wrote:
Research.... from AUT? rofl
I'm not taking this seriously until a more reputable source concludes the same findings - AUT is a teaching university that is so insecure it has university twice in its official name (auckland university of technology university). So yeah...

Ahah they must be a division of the department of redundancy department
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 09:26:36
December 25 2011 09:25 GMT
#22
japanese singing in english turns me on so much, i have no idea why, im not an asianphile or anything



when she says shoulders i just wanna facefuck her
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
loupouk
Profile Joined May 2003
France105 Posts
December 25 2011 10:17 GMT
#23
Same thing happens with canadian singer who sing in french. For exemple, Celine Dion who has a heavy Quebec french accent when she speaks, sings in perfect "Parisian" french.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 25 2011 16:00 GMT
#24
I just think that since music is supposed to be an international thing these days, a lot of people prefer to speak in a "lack of accent" to make it more universal, because if everyone sung in a British, Australian, Russian, or whatever accent it would really be localized to that region for the most part. I know there are exceptions and someone is going to be more than glad to show me, but that's just the way I look at it.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 25 2011 17:21 GMT
#25
I always thought it was just a thing that happened when people sang in English lol
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Tomazi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom158 Posts
December 26 2011 00:07 GMT
#26
Pop musicians need the widest possible audience for their fashion business (with occasional dancing and singing to advertise).

The American accent is most understood because of the huge cultural invasion of the past 50 years. I think the first occurrences of this phenomenon were conscious decisions, and the rest is simply passed down through musical generations.
Aspiring to be MKP's butler
PUPATREE
Profile Joined August 2009
340 Posts
December 26 2011 01:56 GMT
#27
Cool study and interesting info. Thanks .
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Revolt
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States288 Posts
December 26 2011 05:18 GMT
#28
the examples given aren't really concrete.
Mick Jagger and robert plant claim to have had american influences with their work.
so it really comes down to a relative accent, more than a natural one.
A depth of pure blue just to probe curiosity.
zOula...
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
December 26 2011 05:37 GMT
#29
interesting topic. Pink Floyd (as someone already mentioned) and also Oasis have pretty noticeable British accents in some parts.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-26 05:49:15
December 26 2011 05:45 GMT
#30
I was thinking about this earlier today rofl, listening to the swedish band Dead by April, guys have pretty thick accents when speaking, but when singing they have that "American" accent.

On the other hand, you can hear the British accent in Robert Smith's (The Cure) voice in most songs.

But I do agree that most artists I've heard have the american accent.
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
December 26 2011 06:18 GMT
#31
It was an interesting read.

Now why singers from Quebec singing in French don't have any Quebec accent, and sing just like French singers ?
ॐ
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CranKy Ducklings
00:00
TLMC #22: Map Judging #2
CranKy Ducklings35
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft314
RuFF_SC2 96
SpeCial 78
Vindicta 35
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 6225
Artosis 706
NaDa 20
Terrorterran 2
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm26
League of Legends
JimRising 285
Counter-Strike
taco 614
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0352
hungrybox335
PPMD65
Other Games
summit1g11613
Day[9].tv759
Maynarde113
ViBE98
Mew2King41
CosmosSc2 28
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki14
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4573
• TFBlade1788
Other Games
• Scarra785
• Day9tv759
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Team League
9h 31m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 8h
WardiTV Team League
1d 9h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 13h
BSL
1d 17h
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
OSC
2 days
BSL
2 days
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.