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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On November 21 2011 13:36 apm66 wrote: I'd boo on the top of my lungs if the intro was for deezer Exactly, and booing should be reserved for people like him, not for players like Naniwa. Also have any of you ever been to a sports forum? They ridicule fans who boo all the time. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On November 21 2011 14:04 GettingIt wrote: That is not true at all for sports where athletes are not part of a team. You well never hear booing in Golf, Tennis, Track, Swimming, etc. The reason there is booing in team events is because normally the crowds are booing the team and not the specific players except for rare occasions such as Lebron. Are you joking dude? You know when serena williams was arguing with the line callers the crowd boo'd her? Naniwa did some stuff this weekend that was definitely unsportsmanlike, the biggest thing being calling MLG a joke tournament on stage, pausing the game for illegitimate reasons, arguing with the admins, and some stuff to nestea which was seen as disrespectful (mainly because it was nestea). Don't get me wrong, ceremonies like that are okay, but it really depends on context, and naniwa was just seen as someone who (arguably as I don't really feel strongly about this myself) just didn't have a right to do a ceremony like that. If nestea did that against boxer he'd have been boo'd as well. | ||
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2904 Posts
This is eSports, and we want it to grow. We should treat each other with respect and support one another, imo. | ||
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TERRANLOL
United States626 Posts
Trying to defend sc2 and esports from all the little things that come with expansion would be like trying to keep your daughter/son from ever learning about sex/violence/all the bad things in the world. The fact of the matter is that sc2 exists in this environment, and if it is going to grow, it must be able to grow despite these things, not without them. | ||
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Swede
New Zealand853 Posts
On November 21 2011 16:12 ODieN wrote: I personally think "booing" is a bit rude, I think if you're not going to cheer for anyne, don't say anything at all. This is eSports, and we want it to grow. We should treat each other with respect and support one another, imo. Agree. I also think it's disrespectful to the game. Booing can put people on tilt, and for anyone who is there because they want to see the most interesting, dynamic and intelligent play it's counterproductive. Unfortunately that seems to be the minority of SC2 spectators (same with any sport I guess though). Though I can understand booing in sports where you are siding with a nation rather than an individual because it's impersonal that way. | ||
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drgoats
United States310 Posts
You are probably referring to the booing of Naniwa and even that subsided as the event moved on. He happened to be the villain for the day and people like to boo their villains. At least they didn't throw tomatoes. | ||
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esla_sol
United States756 Posts
mob mentality. | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
Do they have a good reason not to like them? Hell if I know. Is it disrespectful? Sure, why not. Stupid? Probably, but 99% of what people do is stupid. Is it worth thinking about? Not really, much less posting on Teamliquid about it. | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
Seriously, it is getting annoying, not everything in this world is trying to kill esports -.- | ||
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Josh111
United States239 Posts
I wont even talk about the booing thing. other then, Thrill you should just stop watching all sporting events if the booing gets you upset. People boo for players that say something stupid or make mistakes in game, just look at ocho for the patriots. Every time he drops a pass he should catch he gets booed by the crowd. THATS SPORTS | ||
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
I'd be one of the ones staying until everything is over. And then staying a little longer. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
I guess I've been desensitised to all that stuff after attending a lot of live sports (mainly football) events. People cuss, spit and chant all sorts of obscenities towards players, managers, other fans. I'll admit it was a little shocking the first couple of times, but you have to understand people are passionate, and they release that through expressions like booing. As long as it's not malicious, I don't see a problem with it. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
On November 21 2011 11:46 Rekrul wrote: you're an idiot, and it doesn't matter you are wrong and it does matter if we want big sponsors to give big money, we better behave a little more mature; otherwise you don't have to wonder if you only get hotpockets and dr. pepper | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
On November 22 2011 03:50 sleepingdog wrote: you are wrong and it does matter if we want big sponsors to give big money, we better behave a little more mature; otherwise you don't have to wonder if you only get hotpockets and dr. pepper Oh no! Swarovski and Rolex aren't sponsoring eSports because people are booing Naniwa, stop it guys  | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On November 22 2011 03:50 sleepingdog wrote: you are wrong and it does matter if we want big sponsors to give big money, we better behave a little more mature; otherwise you don't have to wonder if you only get hotpockets and dr. pepper LOL this is sarcastic right? | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
On November 21 2011 13:11 farvacola wrote: This man knows whats up, its quite amazing how small-minded and judgmental some people can be, as though their own interests are only validated through shitting on others. Guess what sam!zdat, I want to celebrate my passion for Sc2 just like I do my Green Bay Packers, whaddya gonna do about it bub? I'm not going to "DO" anything about it other than tell you in an anonymous online forum that I think it's childish behavior and reflects poorly on your cultural capital. You shouldn't boo somebody unless they've done something that's actually worthy of your disrespect; naniwa didn't do anything like that. To the guy one quote up, please don't take hyperbole too seriously it just makes you look defensive. The point for me is I think western esports fans should take a page from the koreans on how to behave. You can talk trash sure, that's part of the fun, but you should do it in a respectful way. This is one respect at least in which their culture is far superior to ours. | ||
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kittensrcute
United States617 Posts
While esports events are comparable in many ways to real sports events, there are definitely some very clear differences between the two. At sporting events there are tons of people booing the opposing team or even the home team if their performance is sub par. There are obviously going to be crowd favorites as well as less liked players at esports events, though I think the crowd should be able to show that through louder cheering for one player over the other. (Alcohol is also much more readily available at sporting events than esports, though that's not to say that some people weren't drinking  )I'm a little burned out after this past weekend so I'm finding it quite difficult to phrase my thoughts correctly but it just doesn't feel right to be booing a player who has shown such excellent play and is helping the SC2 scene grow. While I definitely think that his actions in his series with NesTea weren't appropriate, the blatant disrespect shown towards him wasn't entirely deserved. We're all trying to help esports grow so it seems that we should be on the same side. Sure, you might not like him but at least show a little respect during the player announcements. I, for one, did not support Naniwa through his run of incredible play but I still clapped (weakly, haha) during his introduction even though I would call him a scumbag (or something similar) to my friends who were also in attendance. On another note, though... How is it that Naniwa and the official were both confused as to what version of the map it was supposed to be? I feel like that shouldn't ever happen and the confusion really shouldn't have delayed the event for that long. There's probably some other stuff I'd like to add but I'm forgetting it now, oh well. Edit 1: Just as a sidenote I was one of the fans who left early but that's because my ride had to wake up at 7am the next morning for work and we still had a 2 hour drive ahead of us. There were also a ton of scumbags who would steal seats when people would just be going to the bathroom. I was with three other people so we always safeguarded each other's seats and took shifts to eat and get drinks as well so this never happened to us, but I witnessed plenty of people attempt to just sit on other people's coats when they got up. One person who took a seat even tried to argue with a person that was saving it that he had been standing for hours so he deserves the seat. I just found this ridiculous because to get our seats (on Saturday we sat about 12 rows back centered in front of the main stage), we had to be there nearly three hours before the first SC2 game was played on the main stage. I understand the frustration of not having a seat, but don't try to tell the people who probably arrived at the event way ahead of time to get their seats that you have been waiting and waiting. It sucks that there were a very limited number of seats but then again, that's why we got to the event early, even if it meant only four hours of sleep and then showing up still not quite sober from the previous night. | ||
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Deadeight
United Kingdom1629 Posts
Having said that, I'm sure people doing it didn't think it was a big deal, it's easy to do in a big crowd. The only person it negatively affects is naniwa, who has put himself up there on stage, though I'm sure he never expected it. | ||
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