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A Letter To HuK

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drryworrx
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States76 Posts
July 05 2011 10:57 GMT
#1
Dear HuK, I am writing this letter knowing you will never, ever read it. I am a nobody and I accept that. I know you're one of the worlds best, and I accept that as well. I have but one complaint with you, and it is regarding Dreamhack.

You see, something I've noticed on the lower leagues is that ever since you won Dreamhack, alot of people have been switching to protoss. Now that in and of itself is nothing bad, people want to be just like the professionals, and what better way for us lowly players to achieve that than play the race of our game heroes? My complaint however is:



I HAVE ONLY RAN INTO 2 PEOPLE THE LAST WEEK AND A HALF THAT DOESN'T 4GATE!


Now that your eyes are no longer bleeding from my textual yelling, let me go into detail as to why I blame you.


People like I said like to follow their heroes in whatever they do. Not only do people like you because you are beyond amazing with protoss and you making playing it look easy, but because you took first in a korean dominated game, as well as your popularity because of it. As such, people want to be exactly like you. The problem to that however is that in these lower leagues, people simply can't play like you, and so they get mad and frustrated that they copy your build exactly but it doesn't work like it does when you do it. They don't realize all the stuff going on behind the build that you do in order to make every single action you take a good one.

As such they get angry and frustrated like I said above and resort to builds everybody tells them will get them to masters. That's great in their mind because that means they're getting to be up to your level that much faster, like a dream come true for them. Somebody gives them a golden ticket to Masters, and that golden ticket is 4-Gate. They get there yes, but without the skills learned from months of climbing the ladder, refining builds and playstyles and all the "fun" parts of the game in my opinion, they get their butt handed to them still because all they know is 4-Gate.


I play Zerg, and at first yes it was horrible going against protoss because they ALL 4-gate rushed or 4-Gate all-inned. Eventually however I figured out how to take care of it and I always open fast roach now against Protoss regardless of what he has planned in his head.

I Just wanted to say that although you are not directly responsible for it, I blame you for inspiring ungosu-like people to think they're baller using the 4-Gate in all their match ups. Thank you for a minimum of 2-4% of the players in Masters with no real skill to speak of.





/end Rant

***
*Huk talking to idra* "Idra...how does he do it? What drives him?" *Idra looks at huk* "Some men can't be bought, bargained or reasoned with, huk. Some men just want to watch the world learn." *They both turn to look at day[9]*
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 11:04:12
July 05 2011 11:03 GMT
#2
Is it just me or is this more of a rant about how you cant beat 4gate?. Why not just make a thread called 4GATE HELP LOL
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
mewbert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States291 Posts
July 05 2011 11:04 GMT
#3
4 gates should be an easy win
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
July 05 2011 11:10 GMT
#4
is this like an eminem song
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 11:12:13
July 05 2011 11:11 GMT
#5
Why do you care if you think it's easy to stop now?
Free win. On higher level, you'll probably face better protosses who don't 4 warp gate.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
July 05 2011 11:12 GMT
#6
I would just think of it as "All I have to do is defend the 4-gate and I will be fine." Then defend the 4-gate and win. If you lose, then at least you did not lose to the 4-gate.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
July 05 2011 11:12 GMT
#7
because everyone on the starcraft ladder watches dreamhack and that has a direct correlation to the races youve been facing on ladder. riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Linkirvana
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands365 Posts
July 05 2011 11:14 GMT
#8
Wait what? You base all of this on a most likely terribly insignificant amount of ladder matches you have played?

I don't know what to say really, I really do hope you're not serious.
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 11:22:21
July 05 2011 11:20 GMT
#9
Dammit Huk, your amazing games influenced everyone to 4gate.
YOUR HURTING ESPORTS!

Love you man
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
July 05 2011 11:26 GMT
#10
On July 05 2011 20:10 SayaSP wrote:
is this like an eminem song


nooo not again
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
m4gdelen4
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
July 05 2011 11:27 GMT
#11
did you play bw? i dont really play sc2 but isn't this the same as when zerg players whine about 2gate?
it does to blue what blue does to you
drryworrx
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States76 Posts
July 05 2011 11:35 GMT
#12
Let me set the record straight right now. I can deal with a 4-Gate now after figuring out how to. I can win and do win against protoss that 4-Gate. This rant was inspired by the boom in protoss as it appeared to me and how I thought it was sad that none of the ones I laddered against did anything other than 4-Gate but one who went air.


And I am not pointing the finger at HuK personally, more than just at his success, even though it is great he is doing so well and I really am happy for him.

Besides we all know that the kind of stuff where he won dreamhack so more people went protoss happens. I mean if somebody got in a fight with Mohammad Ali and knocked him out fast, that guy would inevitably gain more fans and inspire some people to become a boxer.
*Huk talking to idra* "Idra...how does he do it? What drives him?" *Idra looks at huk* "Some men can't be bought, bargained or reasoned with, huk. Some men just want to watch the world learn." *They both turn to look at day[9]*
dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
July 05 2011 11:36 GMT
#13
2 gate? that shit sucks now. Only worth it if you proxy.
i type teamliquid into the url subconsciously... all...the...time...
SiN]
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States540 Posts
July 05 2011 11:39 GMT
#14
4 gate is really easy to stop, especially at lower levels where people don't know how to hide tech at all. You should be glad for all the freewins, although I seriously doubt people have started 4 gating just because huk did it. 4 gate has been around since beta.
HuK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1591 Posts
July 05 2011 11:45 GMT
#15
;o
ProgamerLive like a God or die like a Slave 11:11
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
July 05 2011 11:59 GMT
#16
a perfectly exectued 4 gate would be looking to get you into diamond, and it only works vs toss. terran and zerg can defend 4 gate so easily if scouted properly.
I hardly blame HuK for the fact that you cant defend a 4 gate
drryworrx
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States76 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 12:03:32
July 05 2011 12:00 GMT
#17
I don't mean any offense Mr. HuK by this post I apologize if it came off that way. I mean I think it's cool that people aspire to be like you, it's great and I don't try to discourage people from being like that.

I was just simply talking about the boom in protoss population from my observations(I play this game almost all day not being payed to play it haha, I am a loser lol) and how they just try and 4gate themselves to the top, instead of learning the race at these lower tiers which is better in my opinion.


The blame game was intended to be kinda humorous like all my other stuff. Guess I can't express humor all too well with my words heh. Sorry if you took it the wrong way, wasn't what I meant.


EDIT : And just like every single other post I have made, people see my OP, but take what they want from it and don't read my follow up comments. I can defend the 4gate, it's really not that difficult as it used to be anymore. Why does nobody ever read these parts? Bleh!
*Huk talking to idra* "Idra...how does he do it? What drives him?" *Idra looks at huk* "Some men can't be bought, bargained or reasoned with, huk. Some men just want to watch the world learn." *They both turn to look at day[9]*
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 12:06:37
July 05 2011 12:03 GMT
#18
this guy is an idiot.


maybe you should just get better instead of qqing so much.

cheese, and 4 gate is part of the game. dont play it or switch races.
drryworrx
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States76 Posts
July 05 2011 12:13 GMT
#19
On July 05 2011 21:03 Marcus420 wrote:
this guy is an idiot.


maybe you should just get better instead of qqing so much.

cheese, and 4 gate is part of the game. dont play it or switch races.



Case and point.
*Huk talking to idra* "Idra...how does he do it? What drives him?" *Idra looks at huk* "Some men can't be bought, bargained or reasoned with, huk. Some men just want to watch the world learn." *They both turn to look at day[9]*
ThePurist
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada686 Posts
July 05 2011 12:18 GMT
#20
Check and mate.
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