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Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Charmander - The Best? - Page 2

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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
April 07 2011 18:50 GMT
#21
Charmander is awesome. Fire types are so much harder to find.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
April 07 2011 18:52 GMT
#22
On April 08 2011 03:43 jlim wrote:
Squirtle is way more cute than the other two. Even his sc2 player reincarnation is cute as hell. Wartortle is super duper cool and Blastoise is pretty badass. And his weakest stat, speed, was the least important one, so he had overall better stats than the other two.

And btw you could easily rape Brock with Charmander using Ember. Maybe a potion was required, but still, easy business.


Speed is actually quite important so i don't know what you are talking about lol. It was even more important in RBY cause it affected crit afaik. Competitively Charmander has always been the best out of the RBY starters.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
April 07 2011 18:52 GMT
#23
first time i played i couldnt figure out how to get past the old man so i trained charmander in the grass to the west till he was a charmeleon. i stomped brock and misty without using any other pokemon
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
April 07 2011 18:54 GMT
#24
Actually, I don't think of Brock's Gen I pokemon had rock-type moves. Charmander wouldn't do too terribly against them, especially after inflicting Burn which halves Attack. Also, IIRC the reason Charizard got moved to NU was because of that pesky Stealth Rock in Gen IV. Taking 50% damage every time it switched in was NOT good for him =(

Though Grass-types are some of the weakest out there, I've been Bulbasaur fan since forever. Razor Leaf had a pretty good crit chance, and Sleep Powder was one of the best disabling moves there was. I also think the Gen I sprites for the Bulbasaur family looked better than the others overall.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
April 07 2011 18:56 GMT
#25
Probably squirtle as blastoise can serve many purposes imo. Venusaur is meh...kind of a good supporter I guess. I really don't like charizard's typing as it gets owned by stealth rock. So I'd choose squirtle.
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 19:04:11
April 07 2011 19:00 GMT
#26
I'm fairly sure Ember can one or two shot Geodude and kill Onix too if you get lucky about it not using Rock moves.

Charmander is clearly the favourite here, everyone loves Charizard. Especially cause of the card game -> has 3x Shining Charizard from Neo Destiny.

Yeah Starmie is imba, but like MMOs just grind levels to victory.

PS: The only thing more dreamy than Milkis discussing BW is when he discusses Pokemon. Clearly an Ace Trainer irl.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
April 07 2011 19:03 GMT
#27
On April 08 2011 03:54 d3_crescentia wrote:
Actually, I don't think of Brock's Gen I pokemon had rock-type moves.


The problem is that Charmander can't damage them effectively. Most Pokemon can't at that stage. Butterfree to the rescue. ^^
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
April 07 2011 19:03 GMT
#28
On April 08 2011 03:54 d3_crescentia wrote:
Actually, I don't think of Brock's Gen I pokemon had rock-type moves. Charmander wouldn't do too terribly against them, especially after inflicting Burn which halves Attack. Also, IIRC the reason Charizard got moved to NU was because of that pesky Stealth Rock in Gen IV. Taking 50% damage every time it switched in was NOT good for him =(

Though Grass-types are some of the weakest out there, I've been Bulbasaur fan since forever. Razor Leaf had a pretty good crit chance, and Sleep Powder was one of the best disabling moves there was. I also think the Gen I sprites for the Bulbasaur family looked better than the others overall.


Stealth rock was imba lol T___T
Jaedong :3
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
April 07 2011 19:06 GMT
#29
Can someone explain to me about the seemingly popular Butterfree to help charmander with the first guy? I actually remember using butterfree as well but I cant think of what he did. I can only remember it having tackle, assuming you trained from a caterpie. I'm thinking it had some sort of status powder thing but that still wouldnt help kill shit.
`Zapdos
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States935 Posts
April 07 2011 19:10 GMT
#30
Zapdos is best no question
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jlim
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain943 Posts
April 07 2011 19:10 GMT
#31
On April 08 2011 03:52 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 03:43 jlim wrote:
Squirtle is way more cute than the other two. Even his sc2 player reincarnation is cute as hell. Wartortle is super duper cool and Blastoise is pretty badass. And his weakest stat, speed, was the least important one, so he had overall better stats than the other two.

And btw you could easily rape Brock with Charmander using Ember. Maybe a potion was required, but still, easy business.


Speed is actually quite important so i don't know what you are talking about lol. It was even more important in RBY cause it affected crit afaik. Competitively Charmander has always been the best out of the RBY starters.


I've never played competitive pokémon. As far as I know, if you were to play competitive pokémon you should not be using starters, so who cares.

And I didn't know about the crit rate boost lol pretty cool
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
April 07 2011 19:12 GMT
#32
On April 08 2011 03:37 holy_war wrote:
From a competitive standpoint, Charizard is the worst (Never Used) while Venusaur and Blastoise are in (Under Used). Bottom line is that they're all pretty bad but Squirtle is the coolest.

Can you please explain to me what exactly competitive pokemon is? I was under the impression that because Pokemon is a turn based game with only one right way to play (use the strongest move and make sure you pokemon is the right element), actual gameplay input is extremely limited. I mean what can you do that someone who's read a comprehensive guide to competitive pokemon in 10 minutes can't do in a pokemon battle?
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
April 07 2011 19:13 GMT
#33
Go Bulbasaur. He is the least voted for, so it allows you to be more underground. And he is the most useful one from competitive standpoint in generation 1. He is also in my opinion more cute than Squirtle.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
chennis
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan227 Posts
April 07 2011 19:14 GMT
#34
I used to be a charmander fanboy, and then i discovered sleep powder and i have to say that bulbasaur is the best of the three.
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
April 07 2011 19:15 GMT
#35
On April 08 2011 04:06 Bibbit wrote:
Can someone explain to me about the seemingly popular Butterfree to help charmander with the first guy? I actually remember using butterfree as well but I cant think of what he did. I can only remember it having tackle, assuming you trained from a caterpie. I'm thinking it had some sort of status powder thing but that still wouldnt help kill shit.


Confusion, learnt at level 12. But Butterfree was only really necessary in Yellow where you only had Pikachu (alternatively, Nidoran works too). When I first played Yellow I beat Brock by using Sand Attack lots and Leer into mass Tackling lol...
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
April 07 2011 19:17 GMT
#36
On April 08 2011 04:06 Bibbit wrote:
Can someone explain to me about the seemingly popular Butterfree to help charmander with the first guy? I actually remember using butterfree as well but I cant think of what he did. I can only remember it having tackle, assuming you trained from a caterpie. I'm thinking it had some sort of status powder thing but that still wouldnt help kill shit.


Confusion. The basic psychic-attack and Butterfree learns it at level 10/12. Neither rock nor ground have any resistance and psychic-types were imba in general in Gen I so it was the obvious choice.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
radim
Profile Joined October 2009
Czech Republic122 Posts
April 07 2011 19:19 GMT
#37
oh my god this is one of the hardest questions you can get, love them all :D but probably bulbasaur
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buhhy
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 19:21:24
April 07 2011 19:20 GMT
#38
On April 08 2011 04:12 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 03:37 holy_war wrote:
From a competitive standpoint, Charizard is the worst (Never Used) while Venusaur and Blastoise are in (Under Used). Bottom line is that they're all pretty bad but Squirtle is the coolest.

Can you please explain to me what exactly competitive pokemon is? I was under the impression that because Pokemon is a turn based game with only one right way to play (use the strongest move and make sure you pokemon is the right element), actual gameplay input is extremely limited. I mean what can you do that someone who's read a comprehensive guide to competitive pokemon in 10 minutes can't do in a pokemon battle?


It plays out somewhat like poker. Go check out smogon.

EDIT: blastoise is the most badass pokemon and ice beam is the most badass attack. Easy choice imo.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
April 07 2011 19:20 GMT
#39
Bulbasaur fuckers. Dragons are boring and Blastoise is cool but not as cool as the lumbering behemoth of plantlife that is Venusaur.
Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
April 07 2011 19:24 GMT
#40
On April 08 2011 03:38 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 03:37 holy_war wrote:
From a competitive standpoint, Charizard is the worst (Never Used) while Venusaur and Blastoise are in (Under Used). Bottom line is that they're all pretty bad but Squirtle is the coolest.


From a competitive standpoint they all suck so whatever, not the point.

I always picked Charizard because dragons. Actually I've gone with the fire starter every game except Gen V so I guess I'm just partial to them.


How could you pick the ugly monkey over Pochama?
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