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Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Charmander - The Best? - Page 3

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Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
April 07 2011 19:25 GMT
#41
geez its been so long since I played the original.. but I think I chose Squirtle.. I remember my friend choosing Charmander, and I didnt like bulbasaur so I musta chose Squirtle lol..

Theres a badass SC2 gamer named Squirtle, enough said.
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
April 07 2011 19:26 GMT
#42
Definitely Charmander because it gave you access to fire type moves quicker. Bulbasaur's moveset is easily substituted with bellsprout which can be found very early in the game, and there are tons of alternative water type pokemon to choose from. The only early fire alternative to charmander is vulpix/growlithe and both of those need to stay unevolved until they've learned their movesets.
Rayeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States883 Posts
April 07 2011 19:31 GMT
#43
Squirtle is the wisest choice. There are arguments for Bulbasaur, but only a masochist would choose Charmander. SQUIRTLE FOR LIFE.
The Innocent shall suffer... big time.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
April 07 2011 19:35 GMT
#44
On April 08 2011 04:12 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 03:37 holy_war wrote:
From a competitive standpoint, Charizard is the worst (Never Used) while Venusaur and Blastoise are in (Under Used). Bottom line is that they're all pretty bad but Squirtle is the coolest.

Can you please explain to me what exactly competitive pokemon is? I was under the impression that because Pokemon is a turn based game with only one right way to play (use the strongest move and make sure you pokemon is the right element), actual gameplay input is extremely limited. I mean what can you do that someone who's read a comprehensive guide to competitive pokemon in 10 minutes can't do in a pokemon battle?


In hardcore competitive play, even the same pokemon from 2 different players will have different stats and a different moveset based on what that pokemon's purpose in the lineup is. Even though only about a fifth of all pokemon are viable in competitive play, that still allows for quite a bit of variation.
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
April 07 2011 19:36 GMT
#45
You just listed why I love Squirtle, other than the fact that it's a cute turtle~

But perhaps the biggest reason why people love Squirtle so much is because it can evolve into the badass-looking Blastoise as well as learn both Ice Beam and Hydro Pump; this allows it to fuck both Venusaur and Charizard like it's on a Disneyland excursion
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
April 07 2011 19:39 GMT
#46
Charmander fuck yeah. No Pokemon looks angrier and more badass than a fully evolved Charizard spewing fire in the old Pokemon games. Squirte is downright useless post-Brock except to ride it around in the water, and Bulbasaur keeps trying to learn a bunch of powders.

The Char family can learn rage, slash, flamethrower, firespin. These were Pokemon evolved to kill. Death by righteous fire.
Sup.
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
April 07 2011 19:39 GMT
#47
the first game is the only one where the water main doesnt get its moves ruined for learning hm's
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
April 07 2011 19:42 GMT
#48
Charmander was the way to go but..

I fucking hated it when you ran into Misty lol. Took a couple of tries to kill.
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
April 07 2011 19:43 GMT
#49
Charmander.
It has a bumpy ride in the beginning but it becomes absolutely pwnzor in the end. *_*
End my suffering
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
April 07 2011 19:44 GMT
#50
Charmander because Charizard looks vaguely like a dragon out of medieval fantasy.
Then Squirtle because he's a pro-gamer and Blastoise looks vaguely like a siege tank.
Was there another?
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
aeoliant
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada361 Posts
April 07 2011 19:50 GMT
#51
only teh nubs got squirtle, the hipsters got bulbasaur and the people who wanted a challenge got charmander. or just the people who wanted to set shit on fire
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 07 2011 19:52 GMT
#52
Where in the world did OP get idea that Charmander was hated? =/ but then I had Charmander-maniac friend so...
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
gir
Profile Joined January 2009
United States43 Posts
April 07 2011 20:03 GMT
#53
charmander was the easiest to start with for me lolll
Its been so long since ive seen you smile, looking so good coming down that aisle.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
April 07 2011 20:05 GMT
#54
i loved charmander, so i went with him..so cute! lol
Chesner
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Iceland817 Posts
April 07 2011 20:08 GMT
#55
Always pick fire pokemon and Charmander/Chameleon/Charizard have been my most favorite pokemon since I first got the game! I went through blue by mostly only using Charmander, Misty was a bitch though, but overleveled Charmeleon got the job done.
PENGUINS
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
April 07 2011 20:09 GMT
#56
I can support both charmander and Squirtle, but i really want to know why people like bulbasaur? I always picked squirtle because i had the blue version so i thought it would make him stronger, or charmander because, well he was a freaking dragon, plus i had his pokemon card so eff ya! but can people who chose bulbasaur explain why they like him, besides having an easy ride for the first 4 gyms?
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
April 07 2011 20:10 GMT
#57
How is Charmander winning? Squirtle is the best!
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Tipany
Profile Joined November 2010
United States368 Posts
April 07 2011 20:18 GMT
#58
I've always loved Squirtle because of Blastoise but Charmander/Charizard is the true bad-ass of them all.
wat.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
April 07 2011 20:21 GMT
#59
From competitive point of view: They all suck. But I've always had a venusaur in my UU teams.
From fanboy point of view: Fire Starters <33333333 I like them all and I always pick them.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17053 Posts
April 07 2011 20:22 GMT
#60
Venusaur is the only start of the three that has a viable competitive niche, and that's mainly as a Chlorophyll/Growth sweeper under permanent sun.
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