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mrscheng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden658 Posts
September 06 2011 11:22 GMT
#121
komodo i would recommend u take a beginners course in german, it is very, very, good. alot of the grammar and stuff is really heard to learn by yourself (its even hard to learn with a crap teacher, u best hope u luck out) =).

ya, goethe is all over the world, i went to the goethe institute in sthlm and they were very nice there. havent looked up what courses there are to take, but just the environment is very freindly if you wanna get into german.

Doch, jetzt bin ich zurück! Diese Semester ist das Tempo wirklich schnell. Lätzte Semester hatte ich 3 Stunden pro Woche, aber zB. nur gestern hatten wir drei Stunden! Ich fahrte zur Schule um 8 Uhr, und kam zu Hause zuerst um 5... Helft mir!

Ok, ich will meine Fragen und Gedanken hier posten, und hoffentlich könnt ihr meine Fragen antworten. Btw, ich soll deutsch so viel ich kann hier schreiben, weil wir jetzt kein Swedisch mehr in der Uni sprechen.

DANKE! Dieses thread bin für mich sehr wichtig und nett gewesen. Vielen dank!
SKT Hyuk is my homeboy
mrscheng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden658 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 11:26:30
September 06 2011 11:26 GMT
#122
Und habt ihr Fragen für mich, bitte fragen Sie mich dann =)
SKT Hyuk is my homeboy
btx0
Profile Joined December 2009
Germany184 Posts
September 06 2011 12:37 GMT
#123
On September 06 2011 20:22 mrscheng wrote:
Doch jetzt bin ich zurück! Diese Semester ist das Tempo wirklich schnell. Lätzte Semester hatte ich 3 Stunden pro Woche, aber zB. nur gestern hatten wir drei Stunden! Ich fahrte zur Schule um 8 Uhr, und kam zu Hause zuerst um 5... Helft mir!

Ok, ich will meine Fragen und Gedanken hier posten, und hoffentlich könnt ihr meine Fragen antworten. Btw, ich soll deutsch so viel ich kann hier schreiben, weil wir jetzt kein Swedisch mehr in der Uni sprechen.

DANKE! Dieses thread bin für mich sehr wichtig und nett gewesen. Vielen dank!


Viel Glück. Ich weiß nicht, ob es Dir hilft, wenn ich Deinen Text korrigiere, aber ich mach 's einfach mal.

Doch jetzt bin ich zurück! Diese Semester ist das Tempo wirklich hoch. Letztes Semester hatte ich drei Stunden pro Woche, aber nur[besser: allein] gestern hatten wir z.B. schon drei Stunden! Ich fuhr um 8 Uhr zur Schule und kam erst um 5 nach Hause.

Ok, ich will meine Fragen und Gedanken hier posten und hoffentlich könnt ihr meine Fragen beantworten. Btw, ich sollte hier so viel Deutsch schreiben wie ich kann, weil wir jetzt kein Schwedisch mehr in der Uni sprechen.

DANKE! Dieser thread ist für mich sehr wichtig und nett gewesen. Vielen Dank!
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 13:26:21
September 06 2011 13:11 GMT
#124
On September 06 2011 20:22 mrscheng wrote:


Doch, jetzt bin ich zurück! Diese Semester ist das Tempo wirklich schnell. Lätzte Semester hatte ich 3 Stunden pro Woche, aber zB. nur gestern hatten wir drei Stunden! Ich fahrte zur Schule um 8 Uhr, und kam zu Hause zuerst um 5... Helft mir!

Ok, ich will meine Fragen und Gedanken hier posten, und hoffentlich könnt ihr meine Fragen antworten. Btw, ich soll deutsch so viel ich kann hier schreiben, weil wir jetzt kein Swedisch mehr in der Uni sprechen.

DANKE! Dieses thread bin für mich sehr wichtig und nett gewesen. Vielen dank!

small things actually, like
Semester = das Semester -> Dieses. Letztes Semester.
z.B. second sentence you should add "schon" = already like hatten wir schon 3 stunden.
fuhr = past tense of fahren, not farhte :D
nach Hause = go home, zu Hause = stay home.
zuerst = first.
Hilf mir.
so viel wie möglich schreiben kann (note the verb is at the end of the sentence)
the last sentence should have another hilfsverb like dürfen "coz we are not allowed to speak swedish in the uni anymore" or kann for "can". On second thought, it actually sounds fine

I marked bold = wrong, italic = should change or I'm not really sure, it sounds weird

Disclaimer: I'm a foreinger, learnt German and lived in Ger for 1 year so far. Also, currently studying Computer Science 1st year :D I have something with learning language as English also is not my mothertongue :D So I tend to look into small errors that can make minus points in tests :-) Hopefully it helps you.

Also a tip in learning German: Speaking and Writing are totally different. After ~7 months of learning German I was equipped with enough stuff about the grammar, vocabs, etc. I was in B2 level. But I could only speak short sentences like 5 words, I virtually couldn't use Nebensatz (sentence with verbs at the end). But after 1 semester in the Uni, was forced using German every single freaking day from breaking dawn to midnight. Now I can confidently go to any Germans and ask about things I need.
not really a tip, but more like a comment on leaning language

Edit: just noticed this: "Und habt ihr Fragen für mich, bitte fragen Sie mich dann =)"
ihr = duzen (used with friends, you should already know)
Sie = (formal use)
ihr and Sie in the same sentence sounds totally weird.
Also, I have a website for you: http://dict.cc I use that everyday :-)
mrscheng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden658 Posts
September 06 2011 13:22 GMT
#125
thats cool guys ill keep writing in german, dont mind if u correct me afterwards, but im gonna go special tektiks on it and not look every word up, just try n write the best i can!

appreciate ur help d00ds!
SKT Hyuk is my homeboy
caruso
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany733 Posts
September 06 2011 13:30 GMT
#126
Hey Mr Scheng,

I'll teach you German (my German is accent-free and as close to perfect as it gets, I understand grammar very well - more due to Latin lessons than due to German lessons, to be honest - and I consider teaching it after university) if you teach me a little Swedish

KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 13:31:53
September 06 2011 13:30 GMT
#127
On September 06 2011 22:11 Knightess wrote:
small things actually, like
Semester = das Semester -> Dieses. Letztes Semester.

It's a bit offtopic but here's a fun little question.

Which one is the correct way to say it:
"Wir waren im Sommer diesen Jahres im Urlaub."
or
"Wir waren im Sommer dieses Jahres im Urlaub."?

Don't google. If you're correct you'll get 100 internets and you're better than most germans :D Everyone else is free to answer as well btw, but that should be clear lol
caruso
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany733 Posts
September 06 2011 13:33 GMT
#128
+ Show Spoiler +
dieses Jahres, weil irreflexibles Possesivpronom. duh!
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 13:46:01
September 06 2011 13:41 GMT
#129
On September 06 2011 22:33 caruso wrote:
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dieses Jahres, weil irreflexibles Possesivpronom. duh!

about to post the answer but this guy knows shit LOL Not many Germans that I met have a great knowledge about the grammar, they just use words in sentence like that.

There actually are rules that when you add -es, not -s in Genetiv. Also, if you ask dieses Jahrs or Jahres would be way harder. After getting through A2.2 or early B1, you'll find possesivpronomen pretty easy deals. :-) My level now is at late B2 or early C1, not really sure. After I was done in B2.1 I didn't take course anymore, but my German improved greatly in the time though.
caruso
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany733 Posts
September 06 2011 13:46 GMT
#130
His question is way harder for Germans because they are the once who do it wrong.

"diesen Jahres" is obviously wrong, but it's more commonly used that the right Version.
However, you'd never hear "dieses Jahrs", that just doesn't work.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 13:50:21
September 06 2011 13:48 GMT
#131
On September 06 2011 22:41 Knightess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 22:33 caruso wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
dieses Jahres, weil irreflexibles Possesivpronom. duh!

about to post the answer but this guy knows shit LOL Not many Germans that I met have a great knowledge about the grammar, they just use words in sentence like that.

I'm sorry but I really can't figure out what you want to say here. No troll. ><

Anyway, I'm glad the first one to answer was a german(or lives in Germany.) Gives me hope :D
I'm not lying when I say that I barely get a 50% quote with this question...
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 13:54:38
September 06 2011 13:54 GMT
#132
On September 06 2011 22:48 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 22:41 Knightess wrote:
On September 06 2011 22:33 caruso wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
dieses Jahres, weil irreflexibles Possesivpronom. duh!

about to post the answer but this guy knows shit LOL Not many Germans that I met have a great knowledge about the grammar, they just use words in sentence like that.

I'm sorry but I really can't figure out what you want to say here. No troll. ><

Anyway, I'm glad the first one to answer was a german(or lives in Germany.) Gives me hope :D
I'm not lying when I say that I barely get a 50% quote with this question...


When I was in the phase of "learning German intensively" (not anymore), and whenever I have some hard questions about grammar, I ask my german friends, they either know the answer but couldn't explain why or couldn't even say the answer. It was like 2 out of 20 knew grammar or something like that :D
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
September 06 2011 14:33 GMT
#133
On September 06 2011 22:30 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 22:11 Knightess wrote:
small things actually, like
Semester = das Semester -> Dieses. Letztes Semester.

It's a bit offtopic but here's a fun little question.

Which one is the correct way to say it:
"Wir waren im Sommer diesen Jahres im Urlaub."
or
"Wir waren im Sommer dieses Jahres im Urlaub."?

Don't google. If you're correct you'll get 100 internets and you're better than most germans :D Everyone else is free to answer as well btw, but that should be clear lol

I would say "dieses" because you can also say "Ich war im Sommer des Jahres 2011 im Urlaub" but now "Ich war im Sommer den Jahres 2011 im Urlaub"
keep it deep! @zulison
mrscheng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden658 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 16:19:47
September 06 2011 16:17 GMT
#134
Kann man "duzen" statt "ihr" sagen? wir lernen uns kein alltäglische Sprache in der Schule =( so nein, ich wusste das nicht!

and knight, ty for the link


On September 06 2011 22:30 caruso wrote:
Hey Mr Scheng,

I'll teach you German (my German is accent-free and as close to perfect as it gets, I understand grammar very well - more due to Latin lessons than due to German lessons, to be honest - and I consider teaching it after university) if you teach me a little Swedish



dude, deal, just stay around in this thread ^^
SKT Hyuk is my homeboy
caruso
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany733 Posts
September 06 2011 16:22 GMT
#135
That might be a misunderstanding.

"Duzen" is just a verb describing the act oft saying "Du/Dein/Deine etc." instead of the formal "Ihr/Ihre".
mrscheng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden658 Posts
September 06 2011 17:41 GMT
#136
oh yeah i got it
SKT Hyuk is my homeboy
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2801 Posts
September 06 2011 17:52 GMT
#137
Another fun little question is: Why do Germans say nach Hause when the singular form of the house is das Haus, and its plural is die Häuser?
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 18:42:47
September 06 2011 18:39 GMT
#138
On September 07 2011 02:52 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Another fun little question is: Why do Germans say nach Hause when the singular form of the house is das Haus, and its plural is die Häuser?

+ Show Spoiler +
"Nach" is for places like countries, cities or other things like that. "Hause" is not "house", but rather "home"(nach Hause = homewards). "Zu" is used for things with definitice articles and persons, and "Hause" doesn't fulfill both requirements
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 16:55:08
September 07 2011 16:52 GMT
#139
On September 07 2011 03:39 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 02:52 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Another fun little question is: Why do Germans say nach Hause when the singular form of the house is das Haus, and its plural is die Häuser?

+ Show Spoiler +
"Nach" is for places like countries, cities or other things like that. "Hause" is not "house", but rather "home"(nach Hause = homewards). "Zu" is used for things with definitice articles and persons, and "Hause" doesn't fulfill both requirements


"nach" basically is "to",

From what I learned, people use "zu" when there's a purpose when they're going there. For example, zur Schule (go to school, to study), zur Arbeit gehen (to work, obviously).
There is also "in", "an", "auf", "unter",... (+ Akkusativ), like in die Disco. When you go inside something, you use "in". Propositions are used with akkusativ with the same normal meanings.

and Hause = home, Haus = house.
mrscheng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden658 Posts
September 11 2011 19:27 GMT
#140
yo meine freunde! wie geht's?

ok so doing some work for my grammar classs tomorrow morning, and there are some things i couldn't answer.

first: what is the noun for this verb?
"eine aus Hirschhaut genähte Tracht"

wie sagt man "the dead one" in deutsch? ich kann das nicht in mein wörterbuch finden.

wann sagt man "nun" und wann sagt man "jetzt"?
wann sagt man "dort" und wann sagt man "da"?

ok gleich kommt mehr fragen hehe entshuldigung
SKT Hyuk is my homeboy
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