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ifonlyiwereawsum
United States484 Posts
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rhaaw
Romania28 Posts
Re-iterating the GSL bit, everyone has done their share of bad decisions at 3-4 AM, but you should really know better. | ||
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elmizzt
United States3309 Posts
On February 26 2011 11:42 t3tsubo wrote: I caught this a little late, but for reference the explosion of hate on reddit was cause by the user Huko, because: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Q5dsy.png) regardless, the situation is what it is, and this apology is indeed the best move incontrol could make after those bad decisions. GL with NASL, this community is counting on you! edit: it would seem TL is aware of this and revoked incontrol's banling status. Glad to see action being taken by TL as well You probably didn't mean any harm, but some people read statements like this and can't distinguish between speculation and statement of fact. Stop making baseless assumptions. iNc stepped down from banling status in order to focus his effort on NASL. | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
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t3tsubo
Canada682 Posts
On February 26 2011 11:58 elmizzt wrote: You probably didn't mean any harm, but some people read statements like this and can't distinguish between speculation and statement of fact. Stop making baseless assumptions. iNc stepped down from banling status in order to focus his effort on NASL. my bad, edited. | ||
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Skitz
Australia49 Posts
When I watch SOTG (or basically anything else your in), I watch it because I want to hear funny shit about the starcraft community, I want to hear a bit of bashing, I don't even mind your shit Aussie accent while you fumble to get TB's right  It's just that you seem so fake a lot of the time, you have double standards bro. You dish out a lot of shit to a lot of people, people in your stream, other Starcraft commentators, but you don't seem to be able to take it too well. I read you apology and you got it exactly right, it seemed at first like a martyr to me, simply because of the way I've heard you speak in the past.Of course I'm not just here to bash you, I'm here because I want you to improve and be the face of esports in the west, I really believe that you're taking this small minority seriously, and it's a great thing. When new people are exposed to professional Starcraft through NASL I don't want them to become a part of this minority, I want NASL to be mainstream and that's going to take more than cheap laughs about accents. Basically all I ask of you is that you keep your brilliant sense of humour and ditch the immature jokes that may or may not offend some people, everyone thinks your funny, but you don't have to do it at the expense of other people, I've never heard day9/tasteless/artosis say one bad thing about another person. They may say these things, but I've never heard it, and that's the difference. I really hope you get to read this, and I'm honestly glad your taking it so seriously, it might seem like it's getting blown out of proportion to a lot of people, but to a few it's a big deal. Much Love dude <3 | ||
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ImHuko
United States996 Posts
On February 26 2011 11:58 elmizzt wrote: You probably didn't mean any harm, but some people read statements like this and can't distinguish between speculation and statement of fact. Stop making baseless assumptions. iNc stepped down from banling status in order to focus his effort on NASL. In his defense, 99% of people are asked to step down before they are actually removed/force out/etc. | ||
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SleepTech
United States222 Posts
To those who say that he shouldn't change don't realize that in order to bring this to a higher stage he can't just mock people and troll or it won't go past the niche market. If he holds true to his post, then I'm all for him leading. Kudos incontrol. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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Enzyme
Australia183 Posts
You earn a good amount of money with your coaching services. You play video games for a living. You are now the figure head for the biggest league in the west for Starcraft. You have a super hot girlfriend. You are a tank that could crush peoples skulls with a single hand. The confusion lies in why on earth you feel the need to crash on everyone's parade all the time. Giving people a hard time and being a jerk can seem "funny", but it mostly reeks of insecurity. You expect it from lowly nerds living in basements, not high profile people. Confident and successful people let their actions speak for them, and they don't feel the need to belittle other peoples efforts or go on about how amazing they are. Every time you get all sarcastic about criticism (especially on the internet), or tease other casters, all I can think to myself is "What is this guys problem? Why does he feel the need to be constantly trying to one-up everyone when they aren't even a threat?" This is not an attack on who you are, you have proven yourself to be capable and you have been around the community a long time. This apology is a big step in a seemed understanding that you are now an important person and need to act like one. I think you'll find that it's actually a lot nicer when people like you because you are kind, than like you because you are a jerk and they are all jerks too. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
On February 26 2011 10:50 Creep wrote: Incontrol actually did more than making fun of people and restreaming GSL. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=196316¤tpage=7#139 Why do people only respond to the "racism" and the "restreaming"? (i put quotes around these because he was hardly racist and he barely restreamed) I don't know why everyone keeps ignoring Geoffs OWN comments. If you're trying to make Geoff look like an evil person you're way off the mark buddy. Nit pick all you want, but understanding sarcasm, having thick skin and the realization that nobody is perfect will reach you eventually. Your nickname is very suiting to what you're doing on these boards. | ||
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awha
Denmark1358 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
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JinNJuice
United States255 Posts
The confusion lies in why on earth you feel the need to crash on everyone's parade all the time. Giving people a hard time and being a jerk can seem "funny", but it mostly reeks of insecurity. You expect it from lowly nerds living in basements, not high profile people. If you can't take a little ribbing now and then, then I'm not sure who's the insecure one. How does he ever "belittle" people. First off, he always prefaces his "insults" with a praise or a compliment of that person. I don't understand how you people can take his jokes literally and seriously. I mean....you guys are kidding right? Sigh...I don't get how you think Inc is in any way a jerk. Inc, keep it up. SoTG: Keep making fun of Tyler playing WoW and JP's awkward transitions. Keep up your commentary on your stream. Keep doing your impersonations. It's who you are and people need to start lightening up and stop taking everything so god damn serious. On February 26 2011 12:40 TotalBiscuit wrote: If you actually think Incontrol is being racist by doing impersonations of people's accents then you're crazy, crazy people. Thank you TotalBiscuit, thank you. I'm glad some people do have a good head on their shoulders. | ||
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elmizzt
United States3309 Posts
On February 26 2011 12:35 Enzyme wrote: I think we're all just a little confused. You earn a good amount of money with your coaching services. You play video games for a living. You are now the figure head for the biggest league in the west for Starcraft. You have a super hot girlfriend. You are a tank that could crush peoples skulls with a single hand. The confusion lies in why on earth you feel the need to crash on everyone's parade all the time. Giving people a hard time and being a jerk can seem "funny", but it mostly reeks of insecurity. You expect it from lowly nerds living in basements, not high profile people. Confident and successful people let their actions speak for them, and they don't feel the need to belittle other peoples efforts or go on about how amazing they are. Every time you get all sarcastic about criticism (especially on the internet), or tease other casters, all I can think to myself is "What is this guys problem? Why does he feel the need to be constantly trying to one-up everyone when they aren't even a threat?" This is not an attack on who you are, you have proven yourself to be capable and you have been around the community a long time. This apology is a big step in a seemed understanding that you are now an important person and need to act like one. I think you'll find that it's actually a lot nicer when people like you because you are kind, than like you because you are a jerk and they are all jerks too. He acted that way because many members of the community enjoyed it. There was a huge audience for his brand of humor, and he was happy to make them happy. On February 26 2011 12:40 TotalBiscuit wrote: If you actually think Incontrol is being racist by doing impersonations of people's accents then you're crazy, crazy people. Thank you, TB. <3 | ||
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7000bitches
United States27 Posts
I think everyone can agree that there are many people on the e-sports scene that take their own persona WAY too seriously, and Incontrol was always a balance to that. But he hurt those cocky egos, and is showing he can be the bigger man and not take himself so seriously by changing. Pretty sad situation, but a very impressive reaction. kudos | ||
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SushilS
2115 Posts
On February 26 2011 05:14 Trozz wrote: The restream was bad, But I think you're a good guy. I'm still your fan, man. (: This. And please dont neuter yourself. Even if you are being a dick we will all be your fans. Thats wat fans are. Blind in their support of something. We want to see the Geoff we all know and love. Just dont let Greg rub off too much in the way of his callousness towads other people. 'Cos while that fits him, it was a disconcerting to see you like that. GG Inc. Geoff hwaiiiitingg... | ||
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Exhale-
Canada103 Posts
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blizzind
United States642 Posts
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