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Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
February 26 2011 03:55 GMT
#301
I think people have been way overly harsh on you. Personally i hope you dont change your confrontational joking attitude. It makes State of the game and stream great...

Seriously, Dont quit state of the game. That show will have no conflict without you. It will die without your personality to contrast with JP and Tyler. If nothing else, dont quit state of the game Please!
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
February 26 2011 03:59 GMT
#302
Personally I think we need our douchey personality.
"Duty is heavy as a mountain, death is light as a feather." CJ Entus Fighting! <3 Effort
Ashok
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia339 Posts
February 26 2011 04:06 GMT
#303
iNcontrol <3
Magicpants
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4 Posts
February 26 2011 04:08 GMT
#304
Apology accepted. We all make mistakes. I'll see you in Dallas! (I live like 5 min from where MLG will be hehehe) ps: might rent out my couch for cheap. pm.
"I went nukes because I was fucking desperate." -TLO
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
February 26 2011 04:11 GMT
#305
Well, I'm convinced.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
February 26 2011 04:18 GMT
#306
Your humor is far more acceptable then a lot of the trolling that passes for humor on the majority of forums on this great internet of ours (including TL). While you are human and are therefore liable to make mistakes from time to time on how you approach certain subjects, I do not think sterilizing your personality for the sake of the NASL will ultimately benefit you or the NASL.

People were attracted towards your gameplay because you infused it with humor and geeky analysis. You created your own persona that represented how you played and how you interpreted the community. Having that type of connection with people is invaluable, especially when growing a business.

If you would like some constructive criticism. Perhaps moving forward, marginalize the quips and criticisms directed at people outside the "immediate" TL circle, so to speak. For example, joking around with people and guests on SoTG is totally fine and expected. It is a much appreciated addition to the podcast. But when referencing new or external community members that who may be part of the e-sports scene but are not in step with the TL community, ease up a little. Offering some criticism is fine, but perhaps throttle back the more explicit humor and save that for friends and listeners "in the know".

I think the trick will be to find a balance where you do not overstep your boundaries as a professional player and figurehead of NASL, but still are able to carry over and infuse that humor and lightheartedness into both and personalize them.

I am just going to put this out there, but perhaps discuss this in private with someone like Day[9]. (No, I am not saying become Day[9]2.) But Sean seems to have grown from generic commentator to kind of his own brand. He has pulled back on a lot of the more explicit material in his humor but still has been able to incorporate that goofy sensibility in his cast and persona. Discovering that balance of sterile professional and wildly vibrant commentator is going to take some work, but I have no doubt you'll do it.
Flight Bird
Profile Joined October 2010
25 Posts
February 26 2011 04:22 GMT
#307
On February 26 2011 12:01 Rekrul wrote:
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


I was wondering if I was the only one who thought this...
iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
February 26 2011 04:23 GMT
#308
I want to preface this with some back story. Im a huge fan of Geoff's and have been since broodwar, I was one of the first people to take a chance being his student for an unproven starcraft coaching session. I even got drunk with him at blizzcon 09. I absolutely love this guy and everything hes done.

Now with that out of the way, I don't think that Geoff should be the face of the NASL. This has nothing to do with recent events or the man he has become. The problem I see is that when this blows up (not if) the boy Geoff used to be is going to cause a media fiasco. I think people will take some of his old documented actions the wrong way (racist/sexist/bad taste jokes etc etc) we may take this with stride but the rest of the world is too serious. I know other highly estemed people in the scene agree with what I'm writing here but I won't drop names.

I'm not suggesting Geoff quit the NASL but I'd rather some one less notorious for things they've done in the past becomes the brand. I love Geoffs involvment and enthusiasm and I want to see him as a major contribution to esports in the future.

Personally I think he should focus on being a baller player and a sweet coach and save the casting enthusiasm for after his playong career ends.

Sorry about the novel...
Grouty @HoN/PCKJ <--<333 || Jaedong Fan Cafe GFX
Sephimos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States144 Posts
February 26 2011 04:25 GMT
#309
INCONTROL! You must listen!

I was going to try to make you understand why you should tell the trolls to fuck off, but Mr. Katt Williams can do it so much better than I.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86to2IWTbzs

Listen to him! There are always going to be haters. People are managing to hate on you for spearheading a 400k dollar SC2 tournament in North America. Did you mess up some? Sure, who hasn't? You said you were sorry, and non-trolls understand that.

Don't let 12 year olds in their mom's basement ruin your life, or make you think that 99.9999% of the community doesn't think you kick ass. And for sure, don't let it tamp your spirit down, because a world without this



or this



is not a world I want to live in. Keep your pimp hand strong Incontrol, and 99.9999% of us will continue to think you a most righteous brohammer.
You see!! YOU SEEEEE!! -Sen
soliddew
Profile Joined April 2010
United States28 Posts
February 26 2011 04:25 GMT
#310
it makes me really happy to know that someone who loves the game so much and cares for the community deep down is in charge of something so big.
cullam
Profile Joined October 2010
United States20 Posts
February 26 2011 04:26 GMT
#311
Everybody makes mistakes, man. I personally think that in this case the mistakes weren't super gigantic or anything, but even in the event that they were there's no reason to get too terribly phased by it. It's obvious that you care a whole lot about the community and eSports in general, and you're willing to put effort and time into that cause. That's all I really care about.

Not to mention the fact that your poking fun at people is the funniest material in the entire community. For me, nothing beats listening to you talk about Totalbiscuit or someone else on SotG in that manner, no matter how much some people may dislike it. I think it's not only something that spices things up, but it gives you your own recognizable, entertaining, and unique character that sets you apart from a lot of people.

<3 <3 <3
tritonice
Profile Joined November 2010
United States119 Posts
February 26 2011 04:40 GMT
#312
I for one believe in your sincerity. Thanks for stepping up and apologizing. We are all trying to be better people everyday, but we all have to fall down to learn how to run better. Hopefully the community can move on, support NASL, MLG, GSL, TL, EG, etc. etc. etc. etc., and grow this thing into the biggest entertainment outlet ever!! Good luck with all of your endeavors.
shane_danger16
Profile Joined October 2010
United States40 Posts
February 26 2011 04:45 GMT
#313
I say their will always be haters and there is nothing you can do about it I love state of the game and your stream people just need to learn to take a joke. Also if people have a problem with things you do while not in a professional setting it shouldnt have anything to do with the NASL. As long as you bring the professionalism to that I dont see a problem with you having fun on your stream or other places.
Your the best keep it up! GL at MLG
Hikko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1126 Posts
February 26 2011 04:47 GMT
#314
Does this mean no more TL Attack?
♥
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
February 26 2011 04:58 GMT
#315
On February 26 2011 13:47 Hikko wrote:
Does this mean no more TL Attack?

where did you infer this from?
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
Kojak21
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1104 Posts
February 26 2011 05:04 GMT
#316
I think your perfect for nasl, i cant see anyone better
¯\_(☺)_/¯
Flanagan
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States166 Posts
February 26 2011 05:22 GMT
#317
We need your personality, and if other people can't figure out for themselves that you're being sarcastic and humorous most of the time, then too bad imo. I hate to make a massive generalization and say "Well, if I'm not offended, then the rest of y'all haters are retarded..." but I haven't had a moment where I've not laughed are your awesome comments.

Keep em comin, imo, kudos to you for giving the haters an apology, even when they didn't deserve one.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
February 26 2011 05:31 GMT
#318
Is this situation going to be addressed? Even though it was from the Louder era, you are still operating under the same brand. I am not sure where this falls under.

On February 16 2011 11:44 theshin2007 wrote:
I wanted to preface the following by saying that I respect the players involved with this project and this is by no means meant to bash the site or start a flame war, but I felt this issue should be addressed.

So I did a search for any updates about the Gosuguide. As of 2/15/2011 there have been no updates, no roundtables, the only replay packs are dated 8-11-10 and 8-13-10. Several people are asking for refunds in the comments section. I was wondering what the current plans are for completing this guide or providing refunds for people who purchased?
ModeratorGodfather
bLuR
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada625 Posts
February 26 2011 05:35 GMT
#319
You forgot to mention egotistical, glad you finally realized some things have to change.

I think you can be an extremely powerful face of eSports in the west, if you stick to everything you say in the post.

From what i've seen of your attitude i think it will be tough, but just remember everyone on TL supports you if you have a positive goal to reach, and we will be here to back you up.
Sylvr
Profile Joined May 2010
United States524 Posts
February 26 2011 06:12 GMT
#320
I said it on Twitter, and I'll say it again here:

The moment you stop being yourself, you start living a lie, and your dreams die.

First off, I'm of the opinion that the people raising hell over all this stuff are in the minority. I would wager that a far greater portion of the community loves you as you are now, and will be very sorry to see your personality die because of something like this. As the saying goes, "The squeaky wheel gets the grease", and I think that's what's happening now. The very few people that are getting up in arms about this are merely shouting the loudest, but they do NOT represent the majority.

To attach an analogy to my point that should fall right into place within this community: What if Blizzard balanced Starcraft based on the complaints on their forums? I'm sure everyone here has, at some point, seen the pages upon pages of complaints written in all caps regarding game balance that is the Bnet forums. Thankfully, in their infinite wisdom, Blizzard realizes that you can't let things be controlled by knee-jerk reactions to momentary trends amongst the loudest of your community.

That is exactly what I see here when I read about your upcoming changes; a knee-jerk reaction to the comments of very few, but very vocal posters within the community. I can only hope that you haven't stopped reading this thread already, and that you decide to be patient in making any changes.
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