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FML. That’s the story of today :/
Firstly I woke up at 7:10 during break, in order to have driving lessons. This went ok, but somehow I dropped my permit, so I’ll have to go to the DMV tomorrow to get it. Could take all day
But then the ridiculousness starts. I get home at 10:00 and the internet is off. All I want to do is look at sparknotes, but I can’t, evidently because my brother did something, which I still have no idea about.
My parents lectured me on working about how I need to work during break. It didn’t really make me happy: it’s the second day of break, I only need to read 40 pages of huck finn, take notes for APUS (Which I already have) and review some chem/calc for finals, in a month. Still no computer access, it’s raining cats nad dogs, so I can’t do anything with my friends. My friends are watching an R rated movie, so I can’t go. I sit in my room, half sleeping, half reading a college book. From 10:10 to 1:10. Three hours of what my parents wanted me to do. I come out at lunch: they ask me what fields I’ interested in. They all include math. I have a B in math. They take this time to berate my ability at math, and demand that I study for a few hours today. They repeatedly say “if you had better grades… but” and I just get more and more agitated. Finally, I’m on the computer with the internet on at 1:30, after working for over three hours during the second day of break. Start to boot team fortress 2. and. I get yelled at for not working enough. I’ve learned from the past arguing doesn’t work in these situations, so I calmly said, OK, whatever, I’ll just go to my room and study APUS. BUT instead
Writing break: I’m at the library and just talked to a couple friends who are going to Berkeley who I ran into by fluke there”
They demanded that I work like 6-7 horus a day, asked how long being on the computer was reasonable during break.
A little bit of background for this next point. In the summer between 9th and 10th grade my parents made me take a study skills class. The concept was decent, except for most people there were in danger of failing highschool, not not getting into Berkeley. One of the main points was to maintain a calendar with points, goals, and a list of things to do. Instead of doing it on a huge dry erase calendar I’ve been doing it on my itouch/google calendar so that my parents don’t know every little thing that’s going on in my life. On to the main point, my mom started yelling abut me not maintaining my huge whiteboard calendar, my lack of using of lists of taks to do (I have like 60 or so lists in a folder on my computer) and she then said “If you don’t take initiative I will” She said that because I didn’t study as much as I could have during last semester that during break I’ll need to make up for that. In fact, I’ll need to study 7 hours a day. During break. And I can’t touch a computer til I’ve finished all of that. How considerate…
I calmly said “imposing these restrictions isn’t a positive thing: you simply make me less efficient with my studying, less motivated to do so, and working seven hours a dy during break will simply make me burned out. My points fell upon deaf ears who insisted I work like this. They repeatedly asked “well how long is reasonable to be on the computer” I had no answer. I mean, it really depends on the situation. When one has math homework and a math test, very little is the answer, but during break, I think being on for longer isn’t a bad thing. I knew that they would attack my answer if it was too long, and impose a restriction of that length if I said a shorter length, so I said it was really an unfair question.
Then this is where things fall apart……. My dad starts yelling at me for not working hard enough, and being lazy, and running away from my problems. My mom and brother also turn upon me yelling about my incompetence. At this point, I was just abut to self desctruct. I walked out of the house… My dad followed me, refusing to leave my side, and repeatedly saying I was running away from my problems.
With a pun intended, I literally ran away from one of my problems down the street, through some brush, and onto a trail which heads to the library, where I am now. My brother texted me on behalf of my parents asking where I am, and I didn’t answer. I sent them an email saying I’d be back in three hours. I don’t know what to do. It’s my life, my break, I tried to be reasonable and failed. I just don’t know what to do, I’m lost, and I’m afraid what will happen when I go back home.
So lost, confused, and angry.
 
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Print out the blogs you write here, magnet them to the fridge, then go to a friends house for a night.
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Well, at least your parents care for you. They really want you to succeed and be successful. It sounds like they are going about it the wrong way though.
Do you do any extra curriculars?
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On December 20 2010 07:25 zerglingsfolife wrote:
Well, at least your parents care for you. They really want you to succeed and be successful. It sounds like they are going about it the wrong way though.
Do you do any extra curriculars?
Yes. Model united nations/acadec rec soccer.
They do care. Just wrong way as you said.
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Mani actually has a decent idea. You need to get away from them for a bit. The fact is, that much studying actually is *not* conducive to learning, which may be an argument for you to use. See if there's any studies supporting that train of thought and cite them.
In regards to your feelings though, well...I mean, as lame as it is, they ARE your parents. That doesn't justify what they do, but it does give them a certain amount of power. The computer question is deliberately designed, i think, to trap you like you said (quote on quote as "unfair", which I feel is completely legitimate to say).
Mani also says to show them the blogs...while I think this could help, how responsive would they be? Would it merely make them angrier/more unreasonable? If so, it might not be worth it...then again, you're already deep in the hole, so maybe its a chance you should take regardless. Use your own judgement, and hopefully things get better soon. Try and cheer up though, regardless. Even though they're superbly unreasonable, I'm sure they love you. And you have other people who love you, and who like you, and who are PROUD of you. Try and focus on that for a bit when you get down. 
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berkeley...
Parent's signing you up for classes...
College courses in HS, general academic anxiety, need to work on breaks, parent rage...
Well I am just going to say it: You are asian. And this isn't even a good read it's really obvious. But I've got to take the free wins where I can.
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Being a parent to 7-years old son: Your parents seem to be worried about you. That's what every good parent feels like about their children. I'm not sure how old you are, but it seems to me that they too are going wrong on about how to deal with you. You seem to realize the need to study on your own. Your parents seem to berate you on lack of efforts, but in reality, they don't seem to even listen to you at all. I mean, it all comes down to compromises. Everyone needs some kind of motivation, some downtine and relaxation, when they spend time in way they enjoy. So clearly, pushing you this way, even during break days, that won't do any good.
When I was a kid, my parents were somewhat similar... critizing me when things went wrong, but then never seemed to see or appreciate the good sides or even good results. They took them as granted. It taught me to appreciate all these little efforts and successes of my little kid, to *let him know* about them and appreciate them aloud. In the end, everyone needs to find their own place in the world and being appreciated by those closest to you can be rewarding and leading towards even better motivation and results.
You went quite reasonably about the whole thing; not being even heard to is flat out bad. We can never expect things to go our way only, it'll always come down to discussions and trying to mutually understand each other. However, when one side wishes to fight while the another wishes for diplomacy, it'll not end up well, as the diplomatic approach falls on the deaf ears. Your parents seem to act out of worry, which is a good thing, although, they should look out for how *you* feel as well.
I wish I had any advice for you; guess you might have to try to talk to them when things calm down a bit.
Good luck.
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Should've started the rebellion early and worked slowly at it until parents are more lax.
Anyways, few more months and you'll be gone so keep trucking.
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Man, I can't fathom...any way I could help? It's unbelievable how they're treating you. I think this really is the extreme of "wanting you to do well in life". They should know that at this point in life, kids don't take kindly (to say the very fucking least) to indiscriminate bashing and "discipline", if that's what you could call it.
I totally understand how you feel, and all I can say is that you have to stick it out and take the high ground here, even though just reading about this grates on my very soul...
On December 20 2010 07:40 King K. Rool wrote:
Should've started the rebellion early and worked slowly at it until parents are more lax.
Anyways, few more months and you'll be gone so keep trucking.
Try "one and a half years" 
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On December 20 2010 07:34 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
berkeley...
Parent's signing you up for classes...
College courses in HS, general academic anxiety, need to work on breaks, parent rage...
Well I am just going to say it: You are asian. And this isn't even a good read it's really obvious. But I've got to take the free wins where I can.
not quite asian, but his parents were unfortunately infected by the high population in the bay area
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I actually tried what Manifesto suggested once and it turned out horribly when I eventually had to go home the next day because it just made them more agitated at me.. <_< I'm not sure what to do in this situation because for me it eventually cooled down after I got into college. I understand how tough it is, but hang in there though because eventually you can look back and be relieved it's all over.
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How do you even have that much to study? I would run out of stuff to do if I had to study 7 hours a day
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On December 20 2010 07:34 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
berkeley...
Parent's signing you up for classes...
College courses in HS, general academic anxiety, need to work on breaks, parent rage...
Well I am just going to say it: You are asian. And this isn't even a good read it's really obvious. But I've got to take the free wins where I can.
BUAHAHAHHAHA omg iNc, dont make me laugh like that when i'm drinking! ooh how i love reading your posts xD
OT: I'd say sit down and have a talk with them, ultimately you're not a slave or a robot so you can refuse to do what they ask. For example, my father thought I spent too much time on the computer (then again i have no driver's license, live in the backwoods, cant get a job because im needed to work here all the time) but his perspective is skewed. I work at the house, then when im done im on the computer.
So one day i wake up and the PC's gone, i calmly went down and told him that if thats his choice then fine, i was not going to do anything anymore, i was not going to help my mom shop or help my dad with his horses, or work in the yard or do anything anymore except wake up and watch tv and go to sleep. Because if he puts an ultimatum on me, im putting one right back on him, the result was...no change from routine, i keep working around the house wherever and whenever im needed until i go to Curtin in february, and i got my PC back.
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dude. are you chinese? I knew you were asian as i read into the third paragraph. As I read along, the chinese vibe became increasingly apparent. I'm korean, and my parents were strict like yours, but your parents are taking it to another level. Koreans say chinese are sometimes too hardcore. But a B in math? come on...
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Honestly, just do whatever you think you will ENJOY the most in life, not what will give you the most prestige and money. Prestige and money are nice, yes, but it's not worth it when you are making six figures and at the same time depressed as fuck.
The key to a successful career is first doing something that makes you happy. If it makes you happy, you have a higher chance of being better at it --> becoming one of the best at it --> money --> prestige. Of course not everyone is cut out for shit like this so relax and just do what makes you happy. All this stress can't be good...
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On December 20 2010 07:43 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 07:34 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
berkeley...
Parent's signing you up for classes...
College courses in HS, general academic anxiety, need to work on breaks, parent rage...
Well I am just going to say it: You are asian. And this isn't even a good read it's really obvious. But I've got to take the free wins where I can. not quite asian, but his parents were unfortunately infected by the high population in the bay area
He is asian. 100%
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On December 20 2010 07:34 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
berkeley...
Parent's signing you up for classes...
College courses in HS, general academic anxiety, need to work on breaks, parent rage...
Well I am just going to say it: You are asian. And this isn't even a good read it's really obvious. But I've got to take the free wins where I can.
Swing and a miss! He isn't Asian. Trust me, I called it two blogs ago and was wrong.
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I'd need a picture to ever believer that.
He is an asian... I can practically smell the rice cooker.
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Maybe his parents are asian who adopted him and underwent surgery
:d
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On December 20 2010 07:34 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
berkeley...
Parent's signing you up for classes...
College courses in HS, general academic anxiety, need to work on breaks, parent rage...
Well I am just going to say it: You are asian. And this isn't even a good read it's really obvious. But I've got to take the free wins where I can.
That, and the fact that I've seen his name on the Maplestory TL thread.
EDIT: errrr........
Wow.
I'd actually go with the suggestion to print out blogs, put them on your fridge, and go on a road trip.
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On December 20 2010 07:56 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I'd need a picture to ever believer that.
He is an asian... I can practically smell the rice cooker.
I know him personally. Certified 100% white. And a beast. And an awesome person.
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On December 20 2010 07:56 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
I'd need a picture to ever believer that.
He is an asian... I can practically smell the rice cooker.
ur funee
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He will use his honda when he goes in to get his license.
He reads manga and watches anime.
Show me a picture I will show you an asian man living an internet lie.
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ok in case you couldn't tell i was being ironic cuz ur not
and that was an uncalled-for derail anyhow
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I'd give you a picture/describe him but internet anonymity... Also, I wouldn't be comfortable if he started talking about me and posting pictures of me either, so yeah... <__< No way of proving it's him either, unless he holds up a "OHAI TL" shirt or something.
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On December 20 2010 07:23 Manifesto7 wrote:
Print out the blogs you write here, magnet them to the fridge, then go to a friends house for a night.
Thats actually a very good idea!!
I came across situations with other people who acted in a way I though they wouldnt if the were aware of how they act. Once I repeated a whole rage-speach to a friend after he acted like an idiot and he looked at me and never did it again.
Show people how you feel about their behavior and maybe they will change a bit.
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Nah, he's not asian. B in high school math?
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On December 20 2010 08:04 TOloseGT wrote:
Nah, he's not asian. B in high school math?
Be quiet. It's AP calc, and it's extremely easy to slip up at the inopportune moments in that class at his school. Not having an A+ doesn't mean he isn't intelligent.
(though I'm not defending that he's Asian or whatever lol)
Edit: I feel as if I'm sounding like a douchebag who's trying to chivalrously defend him (and flaunt my connection to such a chill dude)...let me know and I'll stop <____<;
I feel awkward and unwanted talking for you... ><
BUT STAY STRONG MANG
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On December 20 2010 08:06 Z3kk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 08:04 TOloseGT wrote:
Nah, he's not asian. B in high school math? Be quiet. It's AP calc, and it's extremely easy to slip up at the inopportune moments in that class at his school. Not having an A+ doesn't mean he isn't intelligent. (though I'm not defending that he's Asian or whatever lol)
BC or AB? I remember AP Calc was all about text book learning.
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On December 20 2010 08:02 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
ok in case you couldn't tell i was being ironic cuz ur not
and that was an uncalled-for derail anyhow
Oh right. Please get back to giving advice to the guy who emailed his parents that he will return home after his 3 hour vacation.
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On December 20 2010 08:13 {88}iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 08:02 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
ok in case you couldn't tell i was being ironic cuz ur not
and that was an uncalled-for derail anyhow Oh right. Please get back to giving advice to the guy who emailed his parents that he will return home after his 3 hour vacation.
sensitivity doesnt have to involve giving empathy-filled replies; refraining from derailing a thread is pretty common courtesy. also, have you read parts 0 - 3? his parents are pretty fucking insane.
but ok crack 4 fucking asian jokes
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On December 20 2010 08:11 TOloseGT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 08:06 Z3kk wrote:On December 20 2010 08:04 TOloseGT wrote:
Nah, he's not asian. B in high school math? Be quiet. It's AP calc, and it's extremely easy to slip up at the inopportune moments in that class at his school. Not having an A+ doesn't mean he isn't intelligent. (though I'm not defending that he's Asian or whatever lol) BC or AB? I remember AP Calc was all about text book learning.
Ehhh, admittedly it's AB (he's a junior). Courses can vary a lot (though you could argue that since it's AP, classes are a bit more similar  ), though, and I know lots of beastly juniors who bombed just ONE test and thus got a sub par (by "Asian standards"  ) grades.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 20 2010 08:17 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 08:13 {88}iNcontroL wrote:On December 20 2010 08:02 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
ok in case you couldn't tell i was being ironic cuz ur not
and that was an uncalled-for derail anyhow Oh right. Please get back to giving advice to the guy who emailed his parents that he will return home after his 3 hour vacation. sensitivity doesnt have to involve giving empathy-filled replies; refraining from derailing a thread is pretty common courtesy. also, have you read parts 0 - 3? his parents are pretty fucking insane. but ok crack 4 fucking asian jokes Don't listen to him--he just wants to hit 25k :D + Show Spoiler +
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you sir have a stronger will than me. i think i'd have gone insane under those circumstances.
i kinda doubt your parents would react positively to seeing the blogs printed out on the fridge, i'd suggest showing them to a guidance counselor or something, but that would be after the break so you're a bit fucked until then.
Stay strong *high five*
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doesn't your family have other stuff to do than to follow you around?? jesus, you need to get away from them
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Ok well I AM Asian, and I pretty much went through the same thing you did. I would try to be reassuring and say that things are going to get better, but I'd be lying
It doesn't get much better sorry . I'm finally a senior in college about to graduate, and it's finally better. Trust me when i say getting a B isn't going to ruin your chances of getting a job or getting into a good college.
Actually I'm kind of reading through your punishment of "reduced computer time," and working/studying all day, and it actually kind of makes me laugh, sorry. My parents took away all form of electronics from me from when I was 8 to 14. They thought that it was causing, and this is 100% verbatim, "my personality to become evil." Also when we did get a computer in high school, they password protected it and didn't give me the password, I had to ask them to type it in when I wanted it. Also my mom made me write essays, just because. She'd go through books of SAT writing prompts, make me write an essay, and if it was bad, she'd crumple it up and tell me to do it over. Just a couple of examples of my life in high school.
Oh and also on an Asian note, if I ever tried to leave the house during a lecture, they'd have beat me. Plain and simple.
So....actually I don't really have that much sympathy for you, again sorry. But I do know where you're coming from. Just know that it's not that uncommon.
Oh and I got A's in math too.
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On December 20 2010 07:34 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Well I am just going to say it: You are asian. And this isn't even a good read it's really obvious.
On December 20 2010 07:16 Froadac wrote:
I have a B in math.
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In all seriousness, your parents are definitely way too controlling of your education at this stage in the game. That kind of forcing you to maintain lists and things sounds all well and good for elementary school or middle school, but by now you either realize what you need to do and put the effort in to do it or you don't. At least there isn't long before college and independence. Best of luck bro.
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By the way, delete your history because what happened to me was that my parents checked my browser and got even more pissed at me.
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On December 20 2010 07:34 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
berkeley...
Parent's signing you up for classes...
College courses in HS, general academic anxiety, need to work on breaks, parent rage...
Well I am just going to say it: You are asian. And this isn't even a good read it's really obvious. But I've got to take the free wins where I can.
if you read some of his other blogs, you would see that he's responded to this several times saying that he's actually white.
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I would be a lot less understanding than lots of ppl in here. So your parents want the best for you. They are also controlling assholes. How old are you? Maybe you are old enough to tell them to go fuck theirselves.
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On December 20 2010 07:34 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
berkeley...
Parent's signing you up for classes...
College courses in HS, general academic anxiety, need to work on breaks, parent rage...
Well I am just going to say it: You are asian. And this isn't even a good read it's really obvious. But I've got to take the free wins where I can.
that's. iNcorrect I'm white. Sorry, it is obnoxious, you've got that one right.
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On December 20 2010 09:58 travis wrote:
I would be a lot less understanding than lots of ppl in here. So your parents want the best for you. They are also controlling assholes. How old are you? Maybe you are old enough to tell them to go fuck theirselves.
16. Doing so results in medieval punishment. Regarding incontrol and my not asianness, I have taken a special picture jsut for you
And no, it's not a good read. Just a rant :/
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/D5WYe.jpg)
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On December 20 2010 10:08 Froadac wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 09:58 travis wrote:
I would be a lot less understanding than lots of ppl in here. So your parents want the best for you. They are also controlling assholes. How old are you? Maybe you are old enough to tell them to go fuck theirselves. 16. Doing so results in medieval punishment. Regarding incontrol and my not asianness, I have taken a special picture jsut for you And no, it's not a good read. Just a rant :/
well do whatever you want. that's old enough i would tell them to go fuck theirselves, but i was a firecracker. u don't need their help for accomplishing whatever future you want, right? if that's the case i would tell them to lay off me or that our relationship was going to go sour. if they ignore that it's a giant go fuck yourselves and waiting out until it's time to leave.
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On December 20 2010 10:12 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 10:08 Froadac wrote:On December 20 2010 09:58 travis wrote:
I would be a lot less understanding than lots of ppl in here. So your parents want the best for you. They are also controlling assholes. How old are you? Maybe you are old enough to tell them to go fuck theirselves. 16. Doing so results in medieval punishment. Regarding incontrol and my not asianness, I have taken a special picture jsut for you And no, it's not a good read. Just a rant :/ well do whatever you want. that's old enough i would tell them to go fuck theirselves, but i was a firecracker. u don't need their help for accomplishing whatever future you want, right? if that's the case i would tell them to lay off me or that our relationship was going to go sour. if they ignore that it's a giant go fuck yourselves and waiting out until it's time to leave.
Well, issue is I want t ogo to college. SO if I awnted any financial aid I'd need to get emancipated
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Nice rant! My suggestion... tell your parents that after much soul searching you have decided to become a plumber. HVAC is also good. Then stop studying and get a part-time job. Use the money to get your own computer and play computer games as much as you want. Problem solved!
Edit: to add to that... if you really want to go to college, let them talk you into it. Then they will be overjoyed that you are studying at all. Whenever you study, remind them that studying for college is hard, and maybe you should just enroll in that HVAC training course after all.
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ok, so you are white. that explains your B in math. Frankly, most white parents aren't strict enough. Some of them don't have a clue about the importance of education and doing well academically. So kudos to your parents for pretending to be Asian.
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It's difficult for me to read your post, Froadac, because I was a rebel in the worst way. Totally uncontrollable and challenged authority figures at every turn. I left home when I was 17 with really nowhere to go, just to get away.
Parents who try to control their kids don't love them, in my opinion, they just want to mold a kid they can brag about.
Do you do drugs? Do you hang with gangs? Do you get in trouble a lot with the law? Do you get drunk all the time? If you answered no, then tell your parents to thank their lucky stars and leave you the f**k alone.
As long as you're pulling Bs and you do apply yourself and don't spend 24/7 on the internet, they should be thankful.
Hang in there, kid.
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On December 20 2010 10:14 Froadac wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 10:12 travis wrote:On December 20 2010 10:08 Froadac wrote:On December 20 2010 09:58 travis wrote:
I would be a lot less understanding than lots of ppl in here. So your parents want the best for you. They are also controlling assholes. How old are you? Maybe you are old enough to tell them to go fuck theirselves. 16. Doing so results in medieval punishment. Regarding incontrol and my not asianness, I have taken a special picture jsut for you And no, it's not a good read. Just a rant :/ well do whatever you want. that's old enough i would tell them to go fuck theirselves, but i was a firecracker. u don't need their help for accomplishing whatever future you want, right? if that's the case i would tell them to lay off me or that our relationship was going to go sour. if they ignore that it's a giant go fuck yourselves and waiting out until it's time to leave. Well, issue is I want t ogo to college. SO if I awnted any financial aid I'd need to get emancipated
are your parents really such assholes that they wouldn't sign off on loans if u told them to leave u the fuck alone and lived by it?
On December 20 2010 10:16 munchmunch wrote:
Edit: to add to that... if you really want to go to college, let them talk you into it. Then they will be overjoyed that you are studying at all. Whenever you study, remind them that studying for college is hard, and maybe you should just enroll in that HVAC training course after all.
lol, nice
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On December 20 2010 10:21 intoyourrainbOW wrote:
ok, so you are white. that explains your B in math. Frankly, most white parents aren't strict enough. Some of them don't have a clue about the importance of education and doing well academically. So kudos to your parents for pretending to be Asian.
Hahahaha.
Honestly, I tried to write a response to the OP twice, but I don't really know how. Yeah, your parents are being a little crazy, but working hard is important. Work ethic is what will give you happiness in life, and if you need to be told to work hard that's when problems start arising. I have always pushed myself, so I've never really had anyone try to push me harder, and I'm not really sure if pushing someone works. Some people just don't want to work.
I don't think you are lazy, so please don't get that impression. But try for a few days what your parents have asked you, and then when you want to do something in which "7 hours of a studying" would make impossible, I bet your parents will let you make an exception. It sounds really patronizing that someone has to allow you to make an exception like that, but 1: you're a kid, and 2: you are fighting them and asking not to study at all.
In real life breaks don't really exist. There is always something that needs to be done. Shovel the driveway, clean the house, cook dinner, run various other errands. I'm guessing your parents do most of those things without being snarky to you. I'm guessing they do their best to give you an environment where you can study. Those are good parents to have. I really don't think you're gonna burn out just because you study on your break. It's just gonna make your classes in school incredibly easy.
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He hid his face. I am 100% certain just below that paper is a cough guard medical mask.
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By the way, don't listen to travis. That's the worst advice I've ever heard. Just the idea of telling your parents to fuck off shows the worst attitude I've ever seen. Here's a newsflash: it's not absurd for parents to expect A's, holy shit.
SMH
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On December 20 2010 10:08 Froadac wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 09:58 travis wrote:
I would be a lot less understanding than lots of ppl in here. So your parents want the best for you. They are also controlling assholes. How old are you? Maybe you are old enough to tell them to go fuck theirselves. 16. Doing so results in medieval punishment. Regarding incontrol and my not asianness, I have taken a special picture jsut for you And no, it's not a good read. Just a rant :/
Unbelievable
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On December 20 2010 10:21 Arkansassy wrote:
It's difficult for me to read your post, Froadac, because I was a rebel in the worst way. Totally uncontrollable and challenged authority figures at every turn. I left home when I was 17 with really nowhere to go, just to get away.
Parents who try to control their kids don't love them, in my opinion, they just want to mold a kid they can brag about.
Do you do drugs? Do you hang with gangs? Do you get in trouble a lot with the law? Do you get drunk all the time? If you answered no, then tell your parents to thank their lucky stars and leave you the f**k alone.
As long as you're pulling Bs and you do apply yourself and don't spend 24/7 on the internet, they should be thankful.
Hang in there, kid.
Just out of curiosity, what do you do for a living now?
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On December 20 2010 10:37 Chef wrote:
In real life breaks don't really exist. There is always something that needs to be done. Shovel the driveway, clean the house, cook dinner, run various other errands. I'm guessing your parents do most of those things without being snarky to you. I'm guessing they do their best to give you an environment where you can study. Those are good parents to have. I really don't think you're gonna burn out just because you study on your break. It's just gonna make your classes in school incredibly easy.
If OP's parents don't want his help he must NOT feel guilty about not doing errands or something in the house because it's not his decision but theirs.
I need to re-think this before I write more but Froadac, writing this blogs is a great sign you don't want this shit to build up inside of you. Insulting them from time to time (even without going 100% fuck off) also is and believe me, you don't want to be mentally held back in the future by something you didn't say when you wanted to.
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On December 20 2010 11:02 JinNJuice wrote:
By the way, don't listen to travis. That's the worst advice I've ever heard. Just the idea of telling your parents to fuck off shows the worst attitude I've ever seen. Here's a newsflash: it's not absurd for parents to expect A's, holy shit.
SMH
naw
when you're 16 your an adult
if your parents are assholes you don't have to take shit unless you want to
there is a difference between "expecting As" and "controlling your life"
my parents controlled my life, so i know what thats like
oh, and for those who don't understand, telling your parents "to fuck off" was a metaphor. though if you want to literally tell them that, then that's fine too
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I'm not saying he should feel guilty his parents do chores lol. I'm sure his parents make him do a few chores too. But being able to study 7 hours a day necessarily means he can ask his parents to be quiet so he can work hard, to make exceptions in other tasks so he can study... And really, studying is 100% self-interested activity. One day you will have to work hard for someone else, and the more studying you've done in life the more you're allowed to say 'you want me to work hard? pay me money.' It may feel like you're doing it for your parents right now, which is bad, but in the end it's only going to help you.
I mean, what besides studying do you want to do with your time? What is your aspiration? If you have a creative aspiration you want to explore, you need to show motivation to do that, and maybe university isn't the right path for you. But if you're planning on having a career that requires a lot of education, then yeah, this is what you need to do. What did you tell your parents you want to be when you grow up? They are just helping you to achieve that. They want you to be serious about your goals.
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Dang I'm sorry about your overly controlling parents. But chef is right about work ethic, when you get a real job you're gonna work even more than you are studying now.
Your parents are going about it the wrong way but maybe just buckle down study and get an A in math? I don't know if you've tried just improving your grades as a solution but do ur parents react positively to that?
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even though you're pissed, I think its helpful to try and understand why your parents are this way...did they go to college themselves? are you an only child? are they teachers themselves? etc. etc. there must be a reason why they're so "intense" about your schoolwork and college apps
I'm sure a majority of the posters/readers here at TL have had fight and arguments with their parents about how much time they spend on the computer and playing games. this is a community of young, hardcore gamers after all -- take everyone's advice with a huge grain of salt (even mine) because everyone's situation is unique
in the end, you'll be fine. you'll get into a good school, you'll go off to college for 4 years and they'll have to learn to live without you. you'll have all the time in the world to game, fool around, smoke, drink, whatever, once you go to college and after.
my advice: suck it up, and just be a "good" kid (whatever that means in your family) until you go to college. your parents are your parents and they will always be, so don't poison one of the most important relationships of your life.
they're probably stressing out because they know you'll be moving out, leaving them for school, girlfriends, etc. it doesn't hurt to remind them that these are the last few years of your family "life" and you'd like to actually enjoy it and not ruin your relationship with them.
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Canada2480 Posts
On December 20 2010 11:02 JinNJuice wrote:
By the way, don't listen to travis. That's the worst advice I've ever heard. Just the idea of telling your parents to fuck off shows the worst attitude I've ever seen. Here's a newsflash: it's not absurd for parents to expect A's, holy shit.
SMH
here's a news flash, it's absurd for parents to expect 7 hours of studying every day on christmass break, holy shit
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Honestly if you don't want to study go out and do stuff. Don't just stay at home and play team fortress. This is prime time! Take your opportunity and go and get a job, or go volunteer, or go do SOMETHING that interests you. I spent something like 8 hours a day on my computer doing shit in high school after school. I wish so bad I could go back and have spent that time doing fun or useful things like, for example, going to volunteer at a university research lab. Maybe try to start a business. Hell, even programming or such online. Learn some languages and start coding.
You don't have to study all the time. You really don't. You need, however, to show that you are doing something aside from dicking around.
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On December 20 2010 11:31 sikyon wrote:
Honestly if you don't want to study go out and do stuff. Don't just stay at home and play team fortress. This is prime time! Take your opportunity and go and get a job, or go volunteer, or go do SOMETHING that interests you. I spent something like 8 hours a day on my computer doing shit in high school after school. I wish so bad I could go back and have spent that time doing fun or useful things like, for example, going to volunteer at a university research lab. Maybe try to start a business. Hell, even programming or such online. Learn some languages and start coding.
You don't have to study all the time. You really don't. You need, however, to show that you are doing something aside from dicking around.
Well put. I wish it was that way...
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You should be enjoying your last years of freedom. tell your parents to fuck off.
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Alright. So I am a frosh in a fairly intense University, but I feel like this is something I can probably contribute to.
I spent a lot of time in high school on the computer - doing shit all. I was the kid that could just walk into exams and rape them with only a little studying.
Then I got into university, and holy shit is it hard.
What your parents are trying to do is instill some work ethic, which is sadly something I lacked, and had to learn. Your parents are being a little bit over the top, but a couple of hours learning something valuable isnt as bad as you think it is - especially if it is something cool.
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actually yeah dude for your own good don't spend all ur time playing games. do something cool or creative, doesn't have to be studying. sikyon is completely right
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On December 20 2010 11:52 blankspace wrote:
actually yeah dude for your own good don't spend all ur time playing games. do something cool or creative, doesn't have to be studying. sikyon is completely right
IMO, he doesn't spend all his time playing games, nor does he spend all his time studying (though it certainly seems as if that's what his parents want)... Doing something cool or creative isn't exactly an open door at the moment, and therein lies his problem (well, it's more like death by study, but you know what I mean).
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On December 20 2010 11:41 iamho wrote:
You should be enjoying your last years of freedom. tell your parents to fuck off.
You seem pretty bright, so you obviously won't do something like this...
On December 20 2010 11:47 Shudder wrote:
Alright. So I am a frosh in a fairly intense University, but I feel like this is something I can probably contribute to.
I spent a lot of time in high school on the computer - doing shit all. I was the kid that could just walk into exams and rape them with only a little studying.
Then I got into university, and holy shit is it hard.
What your parents are trying to do is instill some work ethic, which is sadly something I lacked, and had to learn. Your parents are being a little bit over the top, but a couple of hours learning something valuable isnt as bad as you think it is - especially if it is something cool.
This is good advice I guess, but honestly... It's pretty much worthless. If you aren't motivated to study, there's no point in forcing yourself to. I didn't really study in High School, and there were skills that I unfortunately never learned until this year- but it's hard to understand the difference between High School and Post Secondary, so really I think it's a learning experience that you need to have and no advice will ever be sufficient.
This is a really tough, shitty time. God is it ever. Take your victories where you can and live through it to your best- it sounds dumb and cliche, but whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Trust me when I say that when you come through this you will have learned some valuable life skills.
Good Luck.
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If you want to convince your parents you're doing something good, I suggest you draft a plan. It doesn' thave to be a study plan but maybe almost like a business plan. Ie who you are going to approach, when, what the outcome will be, etc. You do need to maintain a certain grade but it really doesn't have ot be spectacular.
I think that you should sit down and think about what you want to do with your time. Then draft a plan, and show it to them. Give concrete details on how you want to spend your time and how it will benefit you. They are probably just worried, so if you want to deal with them you need to give them some sort of certainty, not just uncertainty which worries them.
If you can't think of a good way to approach it, you should ask them directly for help. Tell them what you want to do, how you want to do it, why it will help you and then ask them how they can help you. It involves them, and is important.
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On December 20 2010 11:18 Chef wrote:
I'm not saying he should feel guilty his parents do chores lol. I'm sure his parents make him do a few chores too. But being able to study 7 hours a day necessarily means he can ask his parents to be quiet so he can work hard, to make exceptions in other tasks so he can study... And really, studying is 100% self-interested activity. One day you will have to work hard for someone else, and the more studying you've done in life the more you're allowed to say 'you want me to work hard? pay me money.' It may feel like you're doing it for your parents right now, which is bad, but in the end it's only going to help you.
I mean, what besides studying do you want to do with your time? What is your aspiration? If you have a creative aspiration you want to explore, you need to show motivation to do that, and maybe university isn't the right path for you. But if you're planning on having a career that requires a lot of education, then yeah, this is what you need to do. What did you tell your parents you want to be when you grow up? They are just helping you to achieve that. They want you to be serious about your goals.
I think there is a difference between "they want you to be serious about your goals" and "they help you in that". My impression after reading these blogs is they don't help in that in the slightest.
This is what it's all about.
And there are no signs it's going to change. Are there OP?
Do you need daily dose of their... speeches... to realize what they want and try as hard?
Can you try as hard after those speeches? Do you need those speeches at all to aim for the same or very similar to what they want?
So OP ask yourself if there is any help from them other than ranting (and of course other than meals at home) and are they as bad as you describe them? Are there times when you can have fun with them, are there times when they are not nazis and show love? When was the last time something like that happened?
If there are really just a few months when you are still with them left, then use this time to make things clear. To make decision to stay relatively close to them or distance yourself from them adequately to their "usefulness" in your life so to say.
I'd say: gather evidence of their attitude. When they start to rant, confront them with what you achieved. If you think you can get positive comments from your teachers about progress of your education, talk with them and include that as achievements too.
When you don't feel it's going to be sufficient, tell them what you would like to achieve but you will not be able as much because of what you feel after they talk, stronger the longer they do.
You need to completely empty all of your arguments. It's probably going to be much easier if you don't have to face them and it doesn't matter in the long run. Mani has a very good point.
Teaching them logic is not the ultimate goal. The ultimate goal is to cut off all of the negative influence they have over your mental state so you can focus on the goals you want to achieve better.
And of course I don't mean internet life and SC.
The longer their influence will last the longer you will need to let off steam and the stronger tools to do that you will need. Now it's 100 hours of gaming. What is it going to be in future?
How much of that is it going to be in the future?
Is it going to be the first thing you will do after getting to college?
I believe getting help from counselor will help in that. If you've already heard
that I have a similar thing to PTSD, basically that I’m scared of my parents and depressed because of it.
then I believe you need a professional to guide you in that. Maybe you will be able to talk with them properly with his mediation. Not being able to do so will be the ultimate proof they are simply mad.
And this forces really important question: how hard can you study with their presence.
Perhaps limiting hours you are in home and doing the stuff you need to do and the stuff you want to do somewhere else like a library or friend's house is the better solution.
But only after you can declare they are the biggest problem.
Once it comes to that, in your situation it may be better to start with smaller amounts of time you are out to familiarize them with you being out more?
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I've said this before and I will say it again
you're a great person and the way you describe your academics makes you seem very intelligent as well. Don't let your parents ever convince you otherwise Froadac
(though you do suck at SC2!)
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On December 20 2010 11:05 JinNJuice wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 10:21 Arkansassy wrote:
It's difficult for me to read your post, Froadac, because I was a rebel in the worst way. Totally uncontrollable and challenged authority figures at every turn. I left home when I was 17 with really nowhere to go, just to get away.
Parents who try to control their kids don't love them, in my opinion, they just want to mold a kid they can brag about.
Do you do drugs? Do you hang with gangs? Do you get in trouble a lot with the law? Do you get drunk all the time? If you answered no, then tell your parents to thank their lucky stars and leave you the f**k alone.
As long as you're pulling Bs and you do apply yourself and don't spend 24/7 on the internet, they should be thankful.
Hang in there, kid. Just out of curiosity, what do you do for a living now?
You do know that curiosity killed the cat, right? lol
After putting myself through college, (drama major/English) I did some theater, bit parts in some movies, commercials, then semi-retired when I got married, and began writing for a daily newspaper. Several years ago, when my husband was killed I began writing publicity for an art gallery. At the moment I'm doing freelance work as an editor and working on a novel.
Btw...I still challenge the system and authority figures and rebel against societies dictates.
Bet you thought I'd be a failure. Even my parents knew better than that.
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On December 20 2010 10:21 intoyourrainbOW wrote:
ok, so you are white. that explains your B in math. Frankly, most white parents aren't strict enough. Some of them don't have a clue about the importance of education and doing well academically. So kudos to your parents for pretending to be Asian.
Wrong. Asian parents don't know how unimportant education is. I know a person right now, dropped out of high school, making millions. Other people I know barley getting passed high school with C's making 200k a year. Want to know the best part? They enjoy their life.
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On December 20 2010 12:28 FragKrag wrote:I've said this before and I will say it again you're a great person and the way you describe your academics makes you seem very intelligent as well. Don't let your parents ever convince you otherwise Froadac (though you do suck at SC2!)
A positive thing regarding my schoolwork ! :D
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I'm assuming you've returned home and things have calmed down?
^__^
So have you and your parents worked something out?
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On December 20 2010 13:13 BROotogy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 10:21 intoyourrainbOW wrote:
ok, so you are white. that explains your B in math. Frankly, most white parents aren't strict enough. Some of them don't have a clue about the importance of education and doing well academically. So kudos to your parents for pretending to be Asian. Wrong. Asian parents don't know how unimportant education is. I know a person right now, dropped out of high school, making millions. Other people I know barley getting passed high school with C's making 200k a year. Want to know the best part? They enjoy their life.
Statistically the vast majority of people that drop out of school are not as lucky. Education is very important.
Furthermore the vast majority of people that are successful but dropped out of school are self-educated anyways, instead of working really hard in school they worked really hard outside of school. School is not the only predictor of success but it's probably the most reliable one without direct experience (in which case you would already have been successful) as you have a diploma to back you up.
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On December 20 2010 13:22 sikyon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 13:13 BROotogy wrote:On December 20 2010 10:21 intoyourrainbOW wrote:
ok, so you are white. that explains your B in math. Frankly, most white parents aren't strict enough. Some of them don't have a clue about the importance of education and doing well academically. So kudos to your parents for pretending to be Asian. Wrong. Asian parents don't know how unimportant education is. I know a person right now, dropped out of high school, making millions. Other people I know barley getting passed high school with C's making 200k a year. Want to know the best part? They enjoy their life. Statistically the vast majority of people that drop out of school are not as lucky. Education is very important. Furthermore the vast majority of people that are successful but dropped out of school are self-educated anyways, instead of working really hard in school they worked really hard outside of school.
What I'm trying to say is that high school/college w/e has no impact on how successful you can be in life.
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On December 20 2010 13:23 BROotogy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 13:22 sikyon wrote:On December 20 2010 13:13 BROotogy wrote:On December 20 2010 10:21 intoyourrainbOW wrote:
ok, so you are white. that explains your B in math. Frankly, most white parents aren't strict enough. Some of them don't have a clue about the importance of education and doing well academically. So kudos to your parents for pretending to be Asian. Wrong. Asian parents don't know how unimportant education is. I know a person right now, dropped out of high school, making millions. Other people I know barley getting passed high school with C's making 200k a year. Want to know the best part? They enjoy their life. Statistically the vast majority of people that drop out of school are not as lucky. Education is very important. Furthermore the vast majority of people that are successful but dropped out of school are self-educated anyways, instead of working really hard in school they worked really hard outside of school. What I'm trying to say is that high school/college w/e has no impact on how successful you can be in life.
Errr... Would you like to look at statistical earning rates of graduates vs none graduates? No, it doesn't have an impact on how succesful you CAN be but it does have an impact on how succesful you are LIKELY to be.
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On December 20 2010 13:23 BROotogy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 13:22 sikyon wrote:On December 20 2010 13:13 BROotogy wrote:On December 20 2010 10:21 intoyourrainbOW wrote:
ok, so you are white. that explains your B in math. Frankly, most white parents aren't strict enough. Some of them don't have a clue about the importance of education and doing well academically. So kudos to your parents for pretending to be Asian. Wrong. Asian parents don't know how unimportant education is. I know a person right now, dropped out of high school, making millions. Other people I know barley getting passed high school with C's making 200k a year. Want to know the best part? They enjoy their life. Statistically the vast majority of people that drop out of school are not as lucky. Education is very important. Furthermore the vast majority of people that are successful but dropped out of school are self-educated anyways, instead of working really hard in school they worked really hard outside of school. What I'm trying to say is that high school/college w/e has no impact on how successful you can be in life.
Actually, it definitely does. The point of schools is to prepare you for success in life. Otherwise, I fail to see why anyone would attend school at all. High/college CAN end up having zero impact on your future, but most of the time, it's still an important step in your life.
[Not] Getting into a famous/prestigious college may very well have no effect on you, but most of the time, they will prepare you very well. Even if they don't, and you consider a degree immaterial, almost everyone takes it as qualification, and it will help you get a job (which, of course, is desirable).
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Osaka27132 Posts
On December 20 2010 13:28 Z3kk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 13:23 BROotogy wrote:On December 20 2010 13:22 sikyon wrote:On December 20 2010 13:13 BROotogy wrote:On December 20 2010 10:21 intoyourrainbOW wrote:
ok, so you are white. that explains your B in math. Frankly, most white parents aren't strict enough. Some of them don't have a clue about the importance of education and doing well academically. So kudos to your parents for pretending to be Asian. Wrong. Asian parents don't know how unimportant education is. I know a person right now, dropped out of high school, making millions. Other people I know barley getting passed high school with C's making 200k a year. Want to know the best part? They enjoy their life. Statistically the vast majority of people that drop out of school are not as lucky. Education is very important. Furthermore the vast majority of people that are successful but dropped out of school are self-educated anyways, instead of working really hard in school they worked really hard outside of school. What I'm trying to say is that high school/college w/e has no impact on how successful you can be in life. Actually, it definitely does. The point of schools is to prepare you for success in life. Otherwise, I fail to see why anyone would attend school at all. High/college CAN end up having zero impact on your future, but most of the time, it's still an important step in your life. [Not] Getting into a famous/prestigious college may very well have no effect on you, but most of the time, they will prepare you very well. Even if they don't, and you consider a degree immaterial, almost everyone takes it as qualification, and it will help you get a job (which, of course, is desirable).
But you can only study brotology on the streets yo.
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On December 20 2010 13:27 sikyon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 13:23 BROotogy wrote:On December 20 2010 13:22 sikyon wrote:On December 20 2010 13:13 BROotogy wrote:On December 20 2010 10:21 intoyourrainbOW wrote:
ok, so you are white. that explains your B in math. Frankly, most white parents aren't strict enough. Some of them don't have a clue about the importance of education and doing well academically. So kudos to your parents for pretending to be Asian. Wrong. Asian parents don't know how unimportant education is. I know a person right now, dropped out of high school, making millions. Other people I know barley getting passed high school with C's making 200k a year. Want to know the best part? They enjoy their life. Statistically the vast majority of people that drop out of school are not as lucky. Education is very important. Furthermore the vast majority of people that are successful but dropped out of school are self-educated anyways, instead of working really hard in school they worked really hard outside of school. What I'm trying to say is that high school/college w/e has no impact on how successful you can be in life. Errr... Would you like to look at statistical earning rates of graduates vs none graduates? No, it doesn't have an impact on how succesful you CAN be but it does have an impact on how succesful you are LIKELY to be.
you can get anything you want living in the U.S., it's all about how much you want it. Have you heard of the hobo who bought stocks from collecting aluminum cans? There are many more story's like these, you do NOT need some fancy degree to be rich & enjoy life.
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On December 20 2010 13:32 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 13:28 Z3kk wrote:On December 20 2010 13:23 BROotogy wrote:On December 20 2010 13:22 sikyon wrote:On December 20 2010 13:13 BROotogy wrote:On December 20 2010 10:21 intoyourrainbOW wrote:
ok, so you are white. that explains your B in math. Frankly, most white parents aren't strict enough. Some of them don't have a clue about the importance of education and doing well academically. So kudos to your parents for pretending to be Asian. Wrong. Asian parents don't know how unimportant education is. I know a person right now, dropped out of high school, making millions. Other people I know barley getting passed high school with C's making 200k a year. Want to know the best part? They enjoy their life. Statistically the vast majority of people that drop out of school are not as lucky. Education is very important. Furthermore the vast majority of people that are successful but dropped out of school are self-educated anyways, instead of working really hard in school they worked really hard outside of school. What I'm trying to say is that high school/college w/e has no impact on how successful you can be in life. Actually, it definitely does. The point of schools is to prepare you for success in life. Otherwise, I fail to see why anyone would attend school at all. High/college CAN end up having zero impact on your future, but most of the time, it's still an important step in your life. [Not] Getting into a famous/prestigious college may very well have no effect on you, but most of the time, they will prepare you very well. Even if they don't, and you consider a degree immaterial, almost everyone takes it as qualification, and it will help you get a job (which, of course, is desirable). But you can only study brotology on the streets yo.
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me+soy milk+brotology=suspiciously off-white droplets from spittake ><
you can get anything you want living in the U.S., it's all about how much you want it. Have you heard of the hobo who bought stocks from collecting aluminum cans? There are many more story's like these, you do NOT need some fancy degree to be rich & enjoy life.
That's the American Dream, etc., but the truth is that almost all of the time (for our purposes, it's practically a probability of 1), things don't work out that way...I don't want to call you naive, but the stories you hear about rags-to-riches are the exception, not the norm. Again, you do not need a degree to enjoy life and/or become rich, but it's accepted that such a degree will aid you significantly in your life. I kid you not.
Here's a crappy but somewhat passable analogy: your home is is danger of being burglarized by a dangerous-looking man. Would you rather have Froadac or Kennigit protect you? The former is a scrawny white kid (hi, don't take it personally...really) and the latter is some beastly army(? or was it the marines or something) dude who's "certified" in that he went through years of training and fighting. The same applies to life: you're out a world that very much wants to mug you and leave you for dead if you're unprepared--do you want an education that might pass (I don't know, maybe Froadac will befriend the burglar or something) or a solid, dependable one that will tear through some shit?
OR you could just be successfully trolling me :/
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On December 20 2010 13:43 BROotogy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 13:27 sikyon wrote:On December 20 2010 13:23 BROotogy wrote:On December 20 2010 13:22 sikyon wrote:On December 20 2010 13:13 BROotogy wrote:On December 20 2010 10:21 intoyourrainbOW wrote:
ok, so you are white. that explains your B in math. Frankly, most white parents aren't strict enough. Some of them don't have a clue about the importance of education and doing well academically. So kudos to your parents for pretending to be Asian. Wrong. Asian parents don't know how unimportant education is. I know a person right now, dropped out of high school, making millions. Other people I know barley getting passed high school with C's making 200k a year. Want to know the best part? They enjoy their life. Statistically the vast majority of people that drop out of school are not as lucky. Education is very important. Furthermore the vast majority of people that are successful but dropped out of school are self-educated anyways, instead of working really hard in school they worked really hard outside of school. What I'm trying to say is that high school/college w/e has no impact on how successful you can be in life. Errr... Would you like to look at statistical earning rates of graduates vs none graduates? No, it doesn't have an impact on how succesful you CAN be but it does have an impact on how succesful you are LIKELY to be. you can get anything you want living in the U.S., it's all about how much you want it. Have you heard of the hobo who bought stocks from collecting aluminum cans? There are many more story's like these, you do NOT need some fancy degree to be rich & enjoy life.
No, you need luck. For every person that succeeds this way there are countless others who fail. What makes you think you are special and can make it where so many others fail? You are one out of 6.7 billion people in the world. You are not the smartest, the hardest working, the luckiest, etc.
If you want to take a big risk and go for the gold without getting that fancy degree, you can do it. By all means, try - it is possible. But I'll place my bets against you and we'll see who's laughing at the end.
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On December 20 2010 13:32 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 13:28 Z3kk wrote:On December 20 2010 13:23 BROotogy wrote:On December 20 2010 13:22 sikyon wrote:On December 20 2010 13:13 BROotogy wrote:On December 20 2010 10:21 intoyourrainbOW wrote:
ok, so you are white. that explains your B in math. Frankly, most white parents aren't strict enough. Some of them don't have a clue about the importance of education and doing well academically. So kudos to your parents for pretending to be Asian. Wrong. Asian parents don't know how unimportant education is. I know a person right now, dropped out of high school, making millions. Other people I know barley getting passed high school with C's making 200k a year. Want to know the best part? They enjoy their life. Statistically the vast majority of people that drop out of school are not as lucky. Education is very important. Furthermore the vast majority of people that are successful but dropped out of school are self-educated anyways, instead of working really hard in school they worked really hard outside of school. What I'm trying to say is that high school/college w/e has no impact on how successful you can be in life. Actually, it definitely does. The point of schools is to prepare you for success in life. Otherwise, I fail to see why anyone would attend school at all. High/college CAN end up having zero impact on your future, but most of the time, it's still an important step in your life. [Not] Getting into a famous/prestigious college may very well have no effect on you, but most of the time, they will prepare you very well. Even if they don't, and you consider a degree immaterial, almost everyone takes it as qualification, and it will help you get a job (which, of course, is desirable). But you can only study brotology on the streets yo.
haters hating on my boats and hoes, dawg
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On December 20 2010 13:13 BROotogy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 10:21 intoyourrainbOW wrote:
ok, so you are white. that explains your B in math. Frankly, most white parents aren't strict enough. Some of them don't have a clue about the importance of education and doing well academically. So kudos to your parents for pretending to be Asian. Wrong. Asian parents don't know how unimportant education is. I know a person right now, dropped out of high school, making millions. Other people I know barley getting passed high school with C's making 200k a year. Want to know the best part? They enjoy their life.
This is like saying "People don't know how unimportant macro is. I know a person right now in the top 200 who goes 6 pool every game. Other people I know are at 2.5k doing only 4 gate and cannon rushes. Want to know the best part? They enjoy playing SC2."
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On December 20 2010 14:34 iamke55 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 13:13 BROotogy wrote:On December 20 2010 10:21 intoyourrainbOW wrote:
ok, so you are white. that explains your B in math. Frankly, most white parents aren't strict enough. Some of them don't have a clue about the importance of education and doing well academically. So kudos to your parents for pretending to be Asian. Wrong. Asian parents don't know how unimportant education is. I know a person right now, dropped out of high school, making millions. Other people I know barley getting passed high school with C's making 200k a year. Want to know the best part? They enjoy their life. This is like saying "People don't know how unimportant macro is. I know a person right now in the top 200 who goes 6 pool every game. Other people I know are at 2.5k doing only 4 gate and cannon rushes. Want to know the best part? They enjoy playing SC2."
What is your point...
1) They are top 200
2) They are enjoying themselves
where is the down side? Also, if these people are in top 200 and have made all-in powers, then that would mean they focused on micro rather then macro. They have skills, but not those that most others focus on... they win more games simply because each one of their units are worth more than others.
You cannot get to the top with no work and knowledge, it jut depends on where you apply it...
Someone who drops out of highschool to start their own business still has to do TONNES of work, it just means they apply it towards starting their business rather then during drama class.
Someone who get C's in university but still networks and ends up with a great job they love making a lot of money... well they took time to meet with people rather then study for 10 - 20 extra hours per test.
Hell, even take someone who didn't go to school and was just given a $500k/year job for example (never would happen but hey...) they still need to be able to do the job, need to do work in the job, and as such apply their time in a different way.
In Sc2, someone might focus on macro, someone else on build orders, someone else on micro, someone else on timing attacks... they might suck in different areas, but as long as they are world class in at least one area of the game they can be a pro-gamer. Most people might focus on macro but you can get to the top focusing on other things...
Think out side of the box
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On December 20 2010 14:42 Insanious wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 14:34 iamke55 wrote:On December 20 2010 13:13 BROotogy wrote:On December 20 2010 10:21 intoyourrainbOW wrote:
ok, so you are white. that explains your B in math. Frankly, most white parents aren't strict enough. Some of them don't have a clue about the importance of education and doing well academically. So kudos to your parents for pretending to be Asian. Wrong. Asian parents don't know how unimportant education is. I know a person right now, dropped out of high school, making millions. Other people I know barley getting passed high school with C's making 200k a year. Want to know the best part? They enjoy their life. This is like saying "People don't know how unimportant macro is. I know a person right now in the top 200 who goes 6 pool every game. Other people I know are at 2.5k doing only 4 gate and cannon rushes. Want to know the best part? They enjoy playing SC2." What is your point... 1) They are top 200 2) They are enjoying themselves where is the down side? Also, if these people are in top 200 and have made all-in powers, then that would mean they focused on micro rather then macro. They have skills, but not those that most others focus on... they win more games simply because each one of their units are worth more than others. You cannot get to the top with no work and knowledge, it jut depends on where you apply it... Someone who drops out of highschool to start their own business still has to do TONNES of work, it just means they apply it towards starting their business rather then during drama class. Someone who get C's in university but still networks and ends up with a great job they love making a lot of money... well they took time to meet with people rather then study for 10 - 20 extra hours per test. Hell, even take someone who didn't go to school and was just given a $500k/year job for example (never would happen but hey...) they still need to be able to do the job, need to do work in the job, and as such apply their time in a different way. In Sc2, someone might focus on macro, someone else on build orders, someone else on micro, someone else on timing attacks... they might suck in different areas, but as long as they are world class in at least one area of the game they can be a pro-gamer. Most people might focus on macro but you can get to the top focusing on other things... Think out side of the box
and it still all depends whether one cares about how much money they make and what kind of career they want to go into, hard to be a doctor without the school you know?
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I think the issue with the SC2 analogy is that you can quite easily cheese your way to "success" and enjoy the game, whereas in life, it's much more difficult to advance without adequate preparation.
A better comparison (à mon avis) would be never ever practicing macro or having abysmal apm (truly low--getting by well with somewhat low apm is still quite possible) because one is too lazy, and still getting into top 200. That's a much, much more difficult task, just as it is in life without a degree (i.e. working hard in school).
The thread sort of got derailed .__.
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Honestly, what's the most important thing about college in my opinion is the transition from living at home to living by yourself, the social skills you learn from interacting with other students, and the networking. The classes teach you stuff, sure, but it's really the other aspects of college that are going to make you successful in life. It's those reasons why college is so important, not because you get to take more classes.
Also, Inc... dude... why?
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It sounds easy on paper (just print out a list of grievances and try to explain in as calm a manner as possible...or just let the text do the explanation), but I don't think it will be that easy...one cannot expect to hand a piece of paper to one's parents and expect a simple solution. In all likelihood, unless the letter is written masterfully, his parents seem liable to just reject it/read it and disregard it/become angry due to imagined impudence/etc. Obviously the system right now isn't working out, so something should be done about it.....!
Hey--whatever you do, think it through first (I know you know, but just reiterating ><).
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On December 20 2010 08:01 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
He will use his honda when he goes in to get his license.
He reads manga and watches anime.
Show me a picture I will show you an asian man living an internet lie.
I have a ford.
I do neither.
Z3kk can confirm
Although you do have a good point below :p
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On December 20 2010 08:53 JinNJuice wrote:Ok well I AM Asian, and I pretty much went through the same thing you did. I would try to be reassuring and say that things are going to get better, but I'd be lying It doesn't get much better sorry . I'm finally a senior in college about to graduate, and it's finally better. Trust me when i say getting a B isn't going to ruin your chances of getting a job or getting into a good college. Actually I'm kind of reading through your punishment of "reduced computer time," and working/studying all day, and it actually kind of makes me laugh, sorry. My parents took away all form of electronics from me from when I was 8 to 14. They thought that it was causing, and this is 100% verbatim, "my personality to become evil." Also when we did get a computer in high school, they password protected it and didn't give me the password, I had to ask them to type it in when I wanted it. Also my mom made me write essays, just because. She'd go through books of SAT writing prompts, make me write an essay, and if it was bad, she'd crumple it up and tell me to do it over. Just a couple of examples of my life in high school. Oh and also on an Asian note, if I ever tried to leave the house during a lecture, they'd have beat me. Plain and simple. So....actually I don't really have that much sympathy for you, again sorry. But I do know where you're coming from. Just know that it's not that uncommon. Oh and I got A's in math too.
Such a pro
I didn't have much computer access til I was 13 either, so... Also, I had similar SAT experiences, but now thatm y score is really really good
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Well the only point I could give you is keep doing what your doing cause once you get in college you will have the freedom that you wanted. I knows THIS MANG but stay strong!
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Dude, you at least sound way smarter than them.
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So does Geoff have a problem against asians or does he just find his jokes that generally belittle an entire race to be so funny as to beat the dead horse until it turns into elmer's glue.
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On December 20 2010 18:15 ZlaSHeR wrote:
So does Geoff have a problem against asians or does he just find his jokes that generally belittle an entire race to be so funny as to beat the dead horse until it turns into elmer's glue.
My guess is he is just upset because Asians can make stalkers look like dragoons.
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The real issue here is that he plays TF2 when he has free time instead of SC.
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On December 20 2010 08:53 JinNJuice wrote:Ok well I AM Asian, and I pretty much went through the same thing you did. I would try to be reassuring and say that things are going to get better, but I'd be lying It doesn't get much better sorry . I'm finally a senior in college about to graduate, and it's finally better. Trust me when i say getting a B isn't going to ruin your chances of getting a job or getting into a good college. Actually I'm kind of reading through your punishment of "reduced computer time," and working/studying all day, and it actually kind of makes me laugh, sorry. My parents took away all form of electronics from me from when I was 8 to 14. They thought that it was causing, and this is 100% verbatim, "my personality to become evil." Also when we did get a computer in high school, they password protected it and didn't give me the password, I had to ask them to type it in when I wanted it. Also my mom made me write essays, just because. She'd go through books of SAT writing prompts, make me write an essay, and if it was bad, she'd crumple it up and tell me to do it over. Just a couple of examples of my life in high school. Oh and also on an Asian note, if I ever tried to leave the house during a lecture, they'd have beat me. Plain and simple. So....actually I don't really have that much sympathy for you, again sorry. But I do know where you're coming from. Just know that it's not that uncommon. Oh and I got A's in math too.
I think everyone in the world could make their parents seem like the worst people in existence if they just quoted a few instances they were unreasonable or did something particularly thoughtless. For every essay she made you write and that she crumpled up because you were a kid and didn't want to do it properly, how many more juice-boxes did she bring you when you were a little tyke? :O
I wonder if people find it equally offensive that kids born on a farm (even white ones!) have to do several hours of work (that is far less self-interested than studying). Well, I suppose at least they get winter break
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His parents sound to be trying to live through him. Pretty pathetic and disgusting.
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On what do you base that accusation? That's something we sometimes say about a parent who forces their child to play piano 50 hours a day when they have no interest in it, but I'm pretty sure OP said he wants to go to college. Maybe his parents are hoping he'll get a few scholarships to help them pay for it Obviously they're not expecting him to get a job and pay for it himself.
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On December 20 2010 07:34 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
berkeley...
Parent's signing you up for classes...
College courses in HS, general academic anxiety, need to work on breaks, parent rage...
Well I am just going to say it: You are asian. And this isn't even a good read it's really obvious. But I've got to take the free wins where I can.
Jesus fuck, I was off by a mile as well.
You have the most over demanding, fake Asian parents ever, OP. And I must say, considering the amount of heat you're taking for practically nothing, you are acting quite mature...
dunno what to say! while parents can get quite annoying and even flat out controlling, do remember before you burn that bridge with something stupid that they more than likely are just looking out for your, even if the method is utterly fucked
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On December 20 2010 15:20 Z3kk wrote:
I think the issue with the SC2 analogy is that you can quite easily cheese your way to "success" and enjoy the game, whereas in life, it's much more difficult to advance without adequate preparation.
A better comparison (à mon avis) would be never ever practicing macro or having abysmal apm (truly low--getting by well with somewhat low apm is still quite possible) because one is too lazy, and still getting into top 200. That's a much, much more difficult task, just as it is in life without a degree (i.e. working hard in school).
The thread sort of got derailed .__.
Okay, here's what I was trying to say. People who 4 gate/cheese/etc in every game try to justify it by pretending that ladder rating is the only thing that ever matters. In the same way, people who cheesed their way to "success" in life try to justify it by pretending that money is the only thing that ever matters.
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White parents being strict as Asian parents???? What is wrong with the world?
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Your parents are serious ass holes, I would say talk to them and tell them to back the fuck off. Or post your blogs on the fridge lol.
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