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SC2 in Korea; Problems and More - Page 13

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jw232
Profile Joined January 2009
United States157 Posts
August 27 2010 05:10 GMT
#241
Koreans are one of the most computer illiterate people on Earth

Agreed... just watched an Oldboy episode where go.go. couldn't even figure out how to turn on a computer or plug his keyboard in
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
August 29 2010 12:26 GMT
#242
i donno about koreans but personally i dont enjoy SC2 as much as SC1. my primary reasons were...

1. SC2 is too restrictive in how we can play the game
2. Custom games blow
3. No chat. Seriously, how the hell am i suppose to arrange a game with ppl I met from last game.....
...from the land of imba
omg.deus
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Korea (South)150 Posts
August 29 2010 13:39 GMT
#243
I can only speak for myself, but the reason I have SC2(gift) and don't play it is because it can't run on my computer even on the lowest settings. I don't play any other computer games besides Brood War so I can't see myself buying a new computer just for a game that I'm not in love with.
Quasi.In.Rem
Profile Joined September 2010
53 Posts
September 15 2010 00:15 GMT
#244
Why isn't it on TV? They can get Jim Raynor on a jet, but they can't get some television play?
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-15 00:21:46
September 15 2010 00:21 GMT
#245
On September 15 2010 09:15 Quasi.In.Rem wrote:
Why isn't it on TV? They can get Jim Raynor on a jet, but they can't get some television play?

Qook TV started streaming GSL.

But before that... GSL and OnGameNet had a contract. But due to some reasons, OGN decided NOT to broadcast GSL on TV.
ppp
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 15 2010 00:41 GMT
#246
How large is Qook TV's reach?
I did a little searching and it seems that last year it had around 800k subscribers, how accurate is that? Are there different packages containing a different group of channels? If so, on which channel is GSL airing?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
September 15 2010 00:50 GMT
#247
On September 15 2010 09:41 Zona wrote:
How large is Qook TV's reach?
I did a little searching and it seems that last year it had around 800k subscribers, how accurate is that? Are there different packages containing a different group of channels? If so, on which channel is GSL airing?

All I know is that GSL is airing on Channel 1. I don't know the specs, pricing, etc because I have no interest in Qook TV whatsoever
ppp
redestiny
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)5 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-04 07:11:16
September 16 2010 07:15 GMT
#248
The reason Blizzard kicked out Kespa is because Kespa didn't pay shit to Blizzard even though they were making so much profit out of the game Blizzard made. Blizzard try to negotiate and gave Kespa several chances, but Kespa was so cocky and didn't even make a proposal to Blizzard(Not even meeting the president of Blizzard who came all the way from the States and telling the pro-gamers "If you meet with him we will eat you"). Gom was the only company taking the appropriate business procedures and actually paying Blizzard since SC1. Also GSL is on TV in Korea. Do you not own one???? Kespa's just spending all the money they robbed to promote to Koreans how bad SC2 is. Give SC2 and Gom some time. It's just the beginning. I surely can understand why Blizzard was so pissed off and just grabed Kespa by their neck.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
September 16 2010 07:40 GMT
#249
On September 16 2010 16:15 redestiny wrote:
The reason Blizzard kicked out Kespa is because Kespa didn't pay shit to Blizzard even though they were making so much profit out of the game Blizzard made. Blizzard try to negotiate and gave Kespa several chances, but Kespa was so cocky and didn't even make a proposal to Blizzard(Not even meeting the president of Blizzard who came all the way from the States and telling the pro-gamers "If you meet with him we will eat you"). Gom was the only company taking the appropriate business procedures and actually paying Blizzard since SC1. Also GSL is on TV in Korea. Do you not own one???? Kespa's just spending all the money they robbed to promote to Koreans how bad SC2 is. Give SC2 and Gom some time. It's just the beginning. I surely can understand why Blizzard was so pissed off and just grabed Kespa by their neck.



I thought people posting random crap about things they don't know were getting banned now ?
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 07:46:30
September 16 2010 07:44 GMT
#250
On September 16 2010 16:15 redestiny wrote:
The reason Blizzard kicked out Kespa is because Kespa didn't pay shit to Blizzard even though they were making so much profit out of the game Blizzard made. Blizzard try to negotiate and gave Kespa several chances, but Kespa was so cocky and didn't even make a proposal to Blizzard(Not even meeting the president of Blizzard who came all the way from the States and telling the pro-gamers "If you meet with him we will eat you"). Gom was the only company taking the appropriate business procedures and actually paying Blizzard since SC1. Also GSL is on TV in Korea. Do you not own one???? Kespa's just spending all the money they robbed to promote to Koreans how bad SC2 is. Give SC2 and Gom some time. It's just the beginning. I surely can understand why Blizzard was so pissed off and just grabed Kespa by their neck.


Did you just create an account to write that terrible post ?
Please read this thread first :
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=150858
Milkis made a great job, we should not have to read posts like yours anymore.

edit : boonbag is faster
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
September 17 2010 14:35 GMT
#251
Enough about SC2 in Korea. Even w/o Korea SC2 can be success as a e-sport game. We have another country in Asia with great potential of big e-sport scene.
Well, you are thinking it right. China may become a big part of the world e-sport in the next few years.
I live with alot of Koreans, and all I can tell is, just like Rekrul said. Koreans can suddenly turn around and love somethings that they previously know nothing about. Thats maybe the chance for SC2 to success in Korea. Blizzard needs to make big names in BW turns to SC2 and then bang, things will settle itself down. We have July, Nada already join force into SC2.
The problem is lie within SC2. From what I can see at this moment, its not as good as BW, not as fun to watch, the game somehow feel too"automatic" so little cute micro tricks are non-existence..etc. Blizzard may fail in Korea just because SC2 sucks compare to SC1 and nothing else
Terran
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
September 17 2010 15:44 GMT
#252
At least where I'm living, I've noticed a huge increase in the number of people playing SC2 over the past month. Almost every day I go to PC bang, I'll hear a group of friends playing somewhere behind me and one guy teaching his friends what each unit does and what it counters. I've asked friends who live in other areas and they've said the same thing.

I think it's slowly catching on.
('''(G_G/'''')
forr4078
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)12 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-18 18:17:38
September 18 2010 18:14 GMT
#253
No Korean would ever fail to remember his/her resident registration number(social security #). It would be like forgetting his own phone number. You use that number on a daily basis.

Add:

It's quite baffling to see so many of you take KESPA's side. Over here they're almost universally despised. Blizzard gets their share of criticism but not over this particular matter.
Total newbie
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
September 18 2010 18:57 GMT
#254
On September 17 2010 23:35 Caphe wrote:
Enough about SC2 in Korea. Even w/o Korea SC2 can be success as a e-sport game.

Because there are organized e-sports infrastructure outside of Korea right?
NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
September 18 2010 19:03 GMT
#255
On September 19 2010 03:57 zenMaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2010 23:35 Caphe wrote:
Enough about SC2 in Korea. Even w/o Korea SC2 can be success as a e-sport game.

Because there are organized e-sports infrastructure outside of Korea right?


Because there was one before BW, in Korea, right?

SC2 has potential, nobody can deny that.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
September 18 2010 19:10 GMT
#256
On September 18 2010 00:44 Heen wrote:
At least where I'm living, I've noticed a huge increase in the number of people playing SC2 over the past month. Almost every day I go to PC bang, I'll hear a group of friends playing somewhere behind me and one guy teaching his friends what each unit does and what it counters. I've asked friends who live in other areas and they've said the same thing.

I think it's slowly catching on.

do you think it's related to GSL at all?
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ccdnl
Profile Joined April 2010
United States611 Posts
September 18 2010 22:14 GMT
#257
On August 08 2010 15:45 Waffles wrote:
mrhoon is a art prodigy.

this. mrhoon have my babies!!!
civil cervixes || Kang Min Fan || I like TLO, TLO= German, I like Germans..?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66248 Posts
September 19 2010 03:27 GMT
#258
i think you forgot to address one issue though.

Blizzard's trying to push forward this game as an ESPORTS material right from the start. that's where they've gone wrong. they're rushing too fast, shoving it in people's face and going "PLAY THIS OR DIE". i can't think of a single game where the game was created to be "competitive ESPORTS-rank" game right from the start.
POGGERS
TheEpicLolz
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada72 Posts
September 19 2010 03:45 GMT
#259
100% Agreed. What's sad is, if you mentioned this on the battle.net forums, everyone would be

"LOLNOSC2ISASPORTLOLNOOBGTFOGTFO"

But you make a very very solid point. Blizzard is fucking up with SC2. That much is a fact.

See, Brood war was a product. Brood war was something that if you bought, you knew you OWNED that product (well not the rights to the distributation and sales of the product but you get my gist). Everything about BW was, "I'm accessible. You paid money for me, and you get to keep me". That's what it should be. However, SC2 is, "You paid money for me. Even then, blizz owns your copy of this product, not you. If they want, they can stop you from ever setting foot in multiplayer. No, you cannot give your copy to your friends. No, you cannot play with your friends."

It's sorta sickening. D:
Lol :D
rick-dmg
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada36 Posts
September 21 2010 17:10 GMT
#260
Is it just me, or are numbers 1, 2, and 4 all basically the same thing? Pretty sure 3 and 5 could easily be wrapped into one as well.

Overall I found this article non-compelling. It seems more like a pro-kespa rant than anything else... meanwhile pros are announcing their transition to SC2 and the game is actually taking off relatively quickly. I don't think it's realistic to have expected BW to insta-disappear. Considering the long history of the game, the transition is actually happening very quickly. Remember, we are only TWO MONTHS in.

Do you know how long it takes people to change almost anything? Transitioning from mail to e-mail, banking to online banking, standard TV to HD TV, DVD to BlueRay... and we're talking about an entire audience changing games. That just won't happen overnight...

The writer states that he hopes to impact Blizzard, but offers up no viable suggestions. You can't realistically change the fact that SC2 requires better computers, that people are slow to transition to new games, or that it takes a while for people to jump from one gaming career to the next. All of the points in the article are after-the-fact observations/complaints that don't actually help much.

In a year or two from now, this post is going to look silly (more so than it already does).
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