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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 04:11:36
September 22 2010 04:10 GMT
#261
I agree with most of the claims and assumptions made in the OP. No, I don't live in Korea, but I am Korean (duh) and have Korean friends (also duh) and that's generally the impression I get, the game (SC2) is pretty good but it's so damn inaccessible.

A lot of people are discarding one of the major driving point of this blog: Korean culture and how you're brought up. Now, I know if you're Asian you'd half-understand, but unless you grew up under traditional Korean household, you do not fully understand. Just because e-sports is prominent in Korea does not make your parents flexible and understanding. Still a majority of Korean parents think gaming is the root of all evil in this world and will prevent their children from playing it.

Reinforcing what the OP said, even the majority of gamer-friends of mine do NOT know how to build a computer from scratch. They're great at gaming, sure, but once it comes to specs and whatnot, their idea is to "buy a computer with the graphic card of higher number" (which I guess sort of works, lol). The point is, at this point, although my friends are interested in playing SC2 (and watch some of it through GSL and whatnot), once it comes down to just gaming with friends, SCBW is so much more accessible since 1) it runs virtually on any computer now and 2) there is LAN.

*edit: 5/5. Great job OP.
Also, the last skit ending in WOOHOO made me want to make babies in sims 2... lolol
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
September 22 2010 04:40 GMT
#262
Really informative. I use my computer mostly for word processing, so I don't need/can't justify a big powerful computer... I can't buy a $2000 computer just because Blizzard thinks their new game is awesome. I think on that level, it affects all people who are not hardcore gamers (for whatever reason).
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Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
September 22 2010 08:25 GMT
#263
On September 22 2010 02:10 rick-dmg wrote:


Do you know how long it takes people to change almost anything? Transitioning from mail to e-mail, banking to online banking, standard TV to HD TV, DVD to BlueRay... and we're talking about an entire audience changing games. That just won't happen overnight...

In a year or two from now, this post is going to look silly (more so than it already does).


Yea but going from Broodwar to SC2 is like lowering the nets in professional basketball and making the rims wider. Sure it's change but.. why? It's not like Broodwar was getting old or losing popularity. (Although I'm getting sick of Flashimba)
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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
September 22 2010 09:40 GMT
#264
The n°1 problem of SC pro gaming in Korea atm is that Flash happens to have .000 charisma !
rick-dmg
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada36 Posts
September 24 2010 21:06 GMT
#265
On September 22 2010 17:25 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Yea but going from Broodwar to SC2 is like lowering the nets in professional basketball and making the rims wider. Sure it's change but.. why? It's not like Broodwar was getting old or losing popularity. (Although I'm getting sick of Flashimba)


Change is good. Just because something isn't "losing popularity" doesn't mean it can't be improved upon. The typewriter wasn't loosing popularity, but whoever thought to innovate and create computers made a good decision. The horse and buggy wasn't loosing popularity, but I'm glad we have cars today. Same can be said for most other important innovations.

Point is, with modern graphics, added features for commentating, and a refreshed experience - SC2 is far more likely to make the game even MORE popular. Not just in Korea, but in the entire worldwide eSports scene. As popular as it may be in Korea, there are huge un-tapped areas for growth - and BW hasn't been able to make any significant progress there.

People holding onto SC:BW remind me of old people that refuse to learn how to use a computer, get a cellphone, or take advantage of any other recent innovation. They are stuck in the past and don't want to learn a new game because of the "sunk costs" invested in the outdated game.

Get over it, all those hours you spent learning BW are pointless if you can't apply that skill set to something more modern. More and more pros are realizing the transition isn't that bad, but others just want to hold on to an old game - like it's some investment that will cash out in the future . It's won't... time to move on and keep up with the times.
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
September 24 2010 22:54 GMT
#266
On September 22 2010 13:40 Chef wrote:
Really informative. I use my computer mostly for word processing, so I don't need/can't justify a big powerful computer... I can't buy a $2000 computer just because Blizzard thinks their new game is awesome. I think on that level, it affects all people who are not hardcore gamers (for whatever reason).

you can run sc2 on a computer that costs $400 monitor included
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darkwing.Huzow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States35 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 23:26:24
September 28 2010 23:25 GMT
#267
On September 25 2010 07:54 Antoine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2010 13:40 Chef wrote:
Really informative. I use my computer mostly for word processing, so I don't need/can't justify a big powerful computer... I can't buy a $2000 computer just because Blizzard thinks their new game is awesome. I think on that level, it affects all people who are not hardcore gamers (for whatever reason).

you can run sc2 on a computer that costs $400 monitor included


Agreed, and for just $1000 you can run it at max settings with decent FPS.

But that aside, great post by OP, very interesting for a non-Korean who had no idea what was going on there.
Obviously you are not a golfer.
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
September 29 2010 02:25 GMT
#268
"Koreans are one of the most computer illiterate people on Earth"

This post is so money because it's so freaking true.
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Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
September 29 2010 02:49 GMT
#269
thread will turn around since boxers going to play SC2 competitively.
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
September 29 2010 03:10 GMT
#270
On September 29 2010 11:49 Licmyobelisk wrote:
thread will turn around since boxers going to play SC2 competitively.

just a rumor
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
October 05 2010 05:10 GMT
#271
MrHoon -
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Kachna
Profile Joined October 2010
134 Posts
October 21 2010 21:59 GMT
#272
Good read ... now everything started to make sense to me ...
sputnik.theory
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Poland449 Posts
October 22 2010 00:06 GMT
#273
On September 29 2010 12:10 Terrakin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2010 11:49 Licmyobelisk wrote:
thread will turn around since boxers going to play SC2 competitively.

just a rumor

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Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
October 22 2010 01:16 GMT
#274
Has the SC2 scene significantly changed since you 1st posted this?
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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
October 27 2010 19:27 GMT
#275
On October 22 2010 10:16 Aegeis wrote:
Has the SC2 scene significantly changed since you 1st posted this?


Yes, just read it and saw that you actually wrote it some months before.
I'm really curious if the situation changed, and if Nadas and Boxers switch had an impact on the popularity of sc2?
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
July 03 2011 00:01 GMT
#276
Sorry for the bump.
It's almost a year ago since the OP wrote this, and I think it's a really interesting question that I just stumbled upon randomly. I really hope you mods agree that bumping is better than starting a new thread
How much has the situation changed this past year? Has SC2s popularity increased as much in Korea as in the western world?
How are the Korean commentators? Are they still objectively bad, or is the general opinion something else?
How's the SC2 scene going compared to brood war? Is people who started playing SC2 at release starting to go back to BW?
Has the e-sports approach actually hurt the game? I know it's one of the things that drew me personally to it. Maybe BW and SC2 are complimenting eachother, rather than sharing and competing over the same audience.
Would be really nice with answeres, especially from Koreans or people who knows something about the situation. Thanks in advance and much love to you all ♥
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KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
July 03 2011 00:41 GMT
#277
No LAN support is the worse decision blizzard made for sc2. it made the game so unaccessible
moshi moshi~
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
July 03 2011 19:07 GMT
#278
On July 03 2011 09:41 KingofHearts wrote:
No LAN support is the worse decision blizzard made for sc2. it made the game so unaccessible


No future games will have LAN implement due to piracy.
I am not good with quotes
FreshNoThyme
Profile Joined March 2008
United States356 Posts
July 03 2011 19:10 GMT
#279
On July 04 2011 04:07 s.a.y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2011 09:41 KingofHearts wrote:
No LAN support is the worse decision blizzard made for sc2. it made the game so unaccessible


No future games will have LAN implement due to piracy.


Are you referring to Blizzard games or otherwise? Because plenty of games being released today have LAN...
GreenTae
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)7 Posts
August 13 2011 00:13 GMT
#280
I would just like to say one thing....GOM is bad and it makes me sad. The new show with hong jin ho "project A" sounds awesome to me (KTF!!! HONG JIN HO!!! WOOOO!!) i even stayed up till 6am to watch it. But the comic book like summations were lack luster to say the least and the translations were pitiful. When will GOMTV get a translator who can translate everything effectively and account for nuance in korean speech and translate it effectively to english. IF foreigners are the majority of the fanbase for GSL and sc2 then why not get a proper translator for everything. -_- holy check.
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