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Canada2480 Posts
On August 12 2010 16:43 Ideas wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 15:22 nemanja1503 wrote:
I read the first 2 pages of this thread, and have no clue about the Korean SC scene.
But I gotta ask.
Why do you people from places like Australia, Bulgaria and the US care about how well SCII has fared in Korea? probably because korea has the strongest and best esports scene in the world. korean SC scene is like 1000x better than all other esports put together.
E-sports SHALL NOT LIVE without korea
I think mister hoon is right about the fact that Blizz is trying to pass SC2 as an E-sport down our throats instead of having it be popular first
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Ah, no wonder why most korean sc2 players play cheese or 1 base builds. Their computers can't handle past midgame.
But seriously, all my rich korean friends who recently moved to the US have those mini desktops which can't be upgradeable. I'm not sure if that's the reason why - that they can't even run sc2 - but damn do they like to ignore sc2. They can afford a new computer and everything, but they're not going to do that just for sc2 if they have broodwar.
I feel that korea's been used as a pure marketing scheme to raise hype for sc2. All korea has to do now is make a starcraft ripoff, but better. Just like they did to sudden attack.
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OMG I don't know if I am happy or sad this is happening T___T
Very well written points though, and I disagree with the arguments about Korean Games sucking. Some do some dont =/ Lots of US games suck too.
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On August 12 2010 16:34 shadesofkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2010 06:25 Ideas wrote:
how come it got un-featured from the main page? everyone should read this.
TBH I've noticed TL doing everything they can to advertise SC2 (even having chill talk in a phony car salesman voice), could we be possibly seeing some censorship here? JK  + Show Spoiler +
Sadly, this is probably true. Sure looks like it.
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On August 08 2010 23:26 junkacc wrote:You may think it's ok if SC2 only fails in Korea and the rest of the world sees SC2 e-sports taking off but given the track record of Activision, SC2 needs to fail for the sake of gamers everywhere.
I think this is a really important point that doesn't get brought up enough. Gamers have been getting screwed over so much with the current generation but people just keep buying what they are fed. Even I bought Starcraft 2 (though I regret it) so I am just as guilty as anyone else.
All I can say is thank god Korea is treating Starcraft 2 the way it deserves. If Starcraft 2 was called Battlespace 2 and was missing things like lan, chat, awful ladder system, had a horrible multiplayer interface and the gameplay was average you would not even hear about it.
Just like Modern Warfare 2 the game is currently selling on hype and riding the success of the name it carries and not on the gameplay and features it has which is just so sad...
Now off to play some Space Channel 5 to make myself feel better
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we shall wait 1 year and look back and see if rek is right.
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On August 09 2010 03:34 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2010 02:45 Hot_Bid wrote:
I think the largest problem right now is that there are no "stars" in Korea for SC2 yet. They're all relatively unknown, and BW needed a guy like Boxer to jump start the whole thing. I feel the one thing the Korean scene does better than anyone else is establishing a connection between viewers and fans, something that is extremely difficult to do given that they're playing a computer game. It's much harder to show "personality" in esports than in regular sports.
Once SC2 gains some notable faces, or even some big BW names switch over, then the fans will follow. We don't know who SC2's "Boxer" will be -- we may not have even met him yet. But he's out there, and SC2 certainly has the foundation to succeed with someone like that promoting it. One doesn't necessarily cause the other, and in this case I don't think SC II has the kind of following yet where one big superstar could be the catalyst ala Boxer.
Julyzerg has been playing Starcraft 2 :o
His alias is Fanta Prime, I dont think he is boxer material though as for as popularizing a game.
I think you guys are right though^^ Starcraft 2 has what it takes, it just needs to be promoted, more korean tournaments, etc. As far as advertising.. I am not sure if I like how they did it.
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On August 12 2010 18:12 shawster wrote:
we shall wait 1 year and look back and see if rek is right.
Yeah thats what we need to do. So many of the posters in this blog sound exactly like the diehard bw fans who want nothing more than to see sc2 fail. Give it time, the game just came out, of course it wont be hugely popular right off the bat.
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On August 12 2010 21:49 Helios.Star wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 18:12 shawster wrote:
we shall wait 1 year and look back and see if rek is right.
Yeah thats what we need to do. So many of the posters in this blog sound exactly like the diehard bw fans who want nothing more than to see sc2 fail. Give it time, the game just came out, of course it wont be hugely popular right off the bat.
And you sound exactly like the horde of diesoft Sc2 new players who don't even know what they are talking about. Do you even read before labeling people ?
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On August 12 2010 17:15 kodancer wrote:
I feel that korea's been used as a pure marketing scheme to raise hype for sc2. All korea has to do now is make a starcraft ripoff, but better. Just like they did to sudden attack.
There has been one, I liked it a little, but most people were able to access Starcraft without any trouble.
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On August 12 2010 22:29 supernovamaniac wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 17:15 kodancer wrote:
I feel that korea's been used as a pure marketing scheme to raise hype for sc2. All korea has to do now is make a starcraft ripoff, but better. Just like they did to sudden attack. There has been one, I liked it a little, but most people were able to access Starcraft without any trouble.
Name ?
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On August 10 2010 10:20 setzer wrote:
Most Korean games absolutely suck, so it definitely doesn't have anything to do with the game quality when you have such games like Kart Racer or whatever an "e-sport." Not being Korean, I don't have as much understanding as MrHoon about cultural things, but it seems to me that when Blizzard decided to fuck all the PC Bangs over, that really set a lot of Korean's off and delayed SC2 from being as popular as it could have been.
Have you even played KartRider? The skill ceiling is huge in that game, and it's fun to play as a casual gamer too.
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Kart Racer > Need for Speed lol
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On August 12 2010 22:32 Boblion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2010 22:29 supernovamaniac wrote:On August 12 2010 17:15 kodancer wrote:
I feel that korea's been used as a pure marketing scheme to raise hype for sc2. All korea has to do now is make a starcraft ripoff, but better. Just like they did to sudden attack. There has been one, I liked it a little, but most people were able to access Starcraft without any trouble. Name ?
I think it was called Nova 1942 or something. Little different gameplay, but no micro/macro dependent afaik.
You really can't copy all aspects of SC. Sure, imitate it, but face huge failure.
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korea matters b/c if it weren't for korea, SC would be just like WC3 is now. small foreigner scenes in america and europe.
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On August 13 2010 07:28 ToFu. wrote:
korea matters b/c if it weren't for korea, SC would be just like WC3 is now. small foreigner scenes in america and europe.
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thanks for the posts mrhoon and rekrul--I'd like to see what happens in a year or two.
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It's a shame that SC2 is so intangible in Korea. Good post A+
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It'll be fine man. The two games may be able to coexist.
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Koreans have ABSOLUTELY SICK Skill Peaks for many of their games as long as they don't screw up the game play in their patches.
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