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SC2 in Korea; Problems and More - Page 11

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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
August 10 2010 01:20 GMT
#201
Most Korean games absolutely suck, so it definitely doesn't have anything to do with the game quality when you have such games like Kart Racer or whatever an "e-sport." Not being Korean, I don't have as much understanding as MrHoon about cultural things, but it seems to me that when Blizzard decided to fuck all the PC Bangs over, that really set a lot of Korean's off and delayed SC2 from being as popular as it could have been.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
August 10 2010 01:25 GMT
#202
On August 10 2010 10:20 setzer wrote:
Most Korean games absolutely suck, so it definitely doesn't have anything to do with the game quality when you have such games like Kart Racer or whatever an "e-sport." Not being Korean, I don't have as much understanding as MrHoon about cultural things, but it seems to me that when Blizzard decided to fuck all the PC Bangs over, that really set a lot of Korean's off and delayed SC2 from being as popular as it could have been.



kart rider is awesome!!!
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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 10 2010 03:38 GMT
#203
On August 10 2010 10:20 setzer wrote:
Most Korean games absolutely suck, so it definitely doesn't have anything to do with the game quality when you have such games like Kart Racer or whatever an "e-sport." Not being Korean, I don't have as much understanding as MrHoon about cultural things, but it seems to me that when Blizzard decided to fuck all the PC Bangs over, that really set a lot of Korean's off and delayed SC2 from being as popular as it could have been.

Korean MMORPGs are pretty amazing ... Sure Blizzard might steal the spotlight with WoW but overall, Lineage 2, AION, Guild Wars are pretty common amongst gamers as well.

Though made-in-Korea FPS do suck

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darkponcho
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States262 Posts
August 10 2010 03:46 GMT
#204
On August 10 2010 12:38 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 10:20 setzer wrote:
Most Korean games absolutely suck, so it definitely doesn't have anything to do with the game quality when you have such games like Kart Racer or whatever an "e-sport." Not being Korean, I don't have as much understanding as MrHoon about cultural things, but it seems to me that when Blizzard decided to fuck all the PC Bangs over, that really set a lot of Korean's off and delayed SC2 from being as popular as it could have been.

Korean MMORPGs are pretty amazing ... Sure Blizzard might steal the spotlight with WoW but overall, Lineage 2, AION, Guild Wars are pretty common amongst gamers as well.

Though made-in-Korea FPS do suck



Lineage 2 was good, Aion kind of flopped imo =/
life
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 10 2010 05:30 GMT
#205
i was always with KESPA during the war between 2 side. glad to read this =)
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MightyAtom
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Korea (South)1897 Posts
August 10 2010 06:48 GMT
#206
Great OP in that it presents a strong opinionated position.

Just a few points though.
1. My wife is the best, she allowed me to buy a desktop pc with a sick video card (G) just for SC2, I told her it was for research (lol, she knows I was lying but anyway...) and she even set it up for me lol. (in Korea, the wives take care of the family banking, etc, trust me, I tried to buck the tradition, but no luck).

2. Give GomTV some time, they'll get it right.

3. KESPA..I have some personal thoughts on them, but I agree with Rek, they just rode the wave and Rek being in the position that he is (meaning exposed to the inside of e-sports as well as living in Korea in a great deal of independance and range of exposure to wide spectrum of Korean life makes him quite insightful, and the fact that he is insightful already). My personal thoughts are a lot more negative that Rek's but whatever.

4. I think GomTV by opening it all up, it was the best way to go, because the pro teams are all locked up anyways and its not like GomTV can't partner up with SBS or anything (3rd largest main broadcaster of the 3 in Korea). Let things get resolved with KESPA and Blizzard/GomTV first, then lets see what happens, right now, the behind the scene, I'm sure it's coming to a resolution, BUT there are really big things happening on the GomTV side right now according to some of the Korean SC2 groups.

5. ok.. me being the casual korean gamer, and now playing for the last week hardcore (I played the beta as well) I love to play the custom money maps to relax, no stress, just play right before bed or right before I go out. And, I have to admit, its not that much fun as SCBW for the casual player,( for 1v1, fun), but I don't dream of playing it like I did with SCBW, where I'd play and play and then I'd dream about selecting mass units and having hydralisks attack me in my sleep. BUT, I think with the expansion, things will be better, I have faith in that, or maybe I should just stay away from the 4v4 maps keke.

6. SC2 will not fail in Korea, I won't let it. I'll personally arrange an huge PR event with Elky and Giyom and make a press release 'Foreign legends of SC play SC2 and where is Korea!?' It will start a national movement! In fact, i'm going to email gom to let them know I'll do that right now!

I'm just saying, I'm committed to being supportive of SC2, I just really want it to succeed in Korea and the world ^^

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don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
August 10 2010 07:41 GMT
#207
On August 10 2010 15:48 MightyAtom wrote:

6. SC2 will not fail in Korea, I won't let it.


lol. I'm glad someones committed.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66155 Posts
August 10 2010 10:12 GMT
#208
totally agreed, wub hoon <3
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66155 Posts
August 10 2010 10:13 GMT
#209
On August 10 2010 10:20 setzer wrote:
Most Korean games absolutely suck, so it definitely doesn't have anything to do with the game quality when you have such games like Kart Racer or whatever an "e-sport." Not being Korean, I don't have as much understanding as MrHoon about cultural things, but it seems to me that when Blizzard decided to fuck all the PC Bangs over, that really set a lot of Korean's off and delayed SC2 from being as popular as it could have been.

lol no way, have you even played the games
POGGERS
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16670 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 17:05:48
August 10 2010 16:54 GMT
#210

Can you point out some examples? People have this notion that "outside of capitalist pig america people do things for fun and not money" but I've never seen evidence of it being true. Europe doesn't have good American Football players because they can play soccer and get paid. If you were in Russia in 1980 you played chess because the state gave you money if you became good.

Two baseball players were recently drafted from India. They had never played baseball in their life, they became pitchers because they had spent their lives honing javelin throwing skills and it turns out you can also use that motion to throw a baseball fast enough to get a signing bonus.


May Indianapolis 500 race before 1995
and now.

Tony George threw a tonne of cash at the race after splitting from CART.
but, it was just never the same....

racing only on ovals simply was not a complete test of the driver or the car.

Another example, is Hockey in teh Winter Olympics.
the players play for no money and watch the celebration when they win.
and the players adjust every aspect of their life schedules to participate...

probably the most notable example was Mario Lemieux in 1998 and 2002.
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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
August 10 2010 17:28 GMT
#211
On August 10 2010 19:13 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 10:20 setzer wrote:
Most Korean games absolutely suck, so it definitely doesn't have anything to do with the game quality when you have such games like Kart Racer or whatever an "e-sport." Not being Korean, I don't have as much understanding as MrHoon about cultural things, but it seems to me that when Blizzard decided to fuck all the PC Bangs over, that really set a lot of Korean's off and delayed SC2 from being as popular as it could have been.

lol no way, have you even played the games


Are you saying the billion wemade ripoffs and clones are good?
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 22:43:25
August 10 2010 22:42 GMT
#212
Couldn't have been said any better in plain english, damnnnnn

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LJY sux


Spotlight this blog plz
vitruvia
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada235 Posts
August 10 2010 22:46 GMT
#213
lol you know this is the present state right... XD? maybe you need to put a bit more dynamic thoughts in your post next time than direct logic.
what quote?
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
August 10 2010 23:32 GMT
#214
[B]
5. ok.. me being the casual korean gamer, and now playing for the last week hardcore (I played the beta as well) I love to play the custom money maps to relax, no stress, just play right before bed or right before I go out.



Unrelated, but i play money maps on BW for fun.. is there much point on SC2? MBS and mass select removed the only skill needed in the maps :p
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
August 10 2010 23:53 GMT
#215
Great read! 5/5, would definitely read again.

I feel even more hatred towards Blizzard now. -_-x
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Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
August 12 2010 01:42 GMT
#216
I don't know if I was just provoked here a lot, but you sir seem to know your sh*t. You'd think blizzard had proper understanding of what made SC1 work to do use the advertising bucks in more effective ways.

I guess computer related problems are the worst though. If it's not easily accessible in netcafes and everyone actually have to own their copies it might not look something worth looking into. Why not just skip the hassle and play good old BW? That's something they may have not been able to fix even if they made proper deals with KESPA. And it surely didn't sound like KESPA deal was even close. There are multiple problems and it's probably not possible to fix them anymore. Likely the game will be a bit of failure in Korea like WC3 was. I can't imagine SC2 having taken over SC1 in Korea in 2015 if OP's info was correct about everything.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 12 2010 02:03 GMT
#217
The fact that Aion is #1 at PC bangs from the list early in the thread only makes me feel Koreans have terrible taste in Games and liking SC:BW is merely a coincidence.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
nemanja1503
Profile Joined July 2010
Serbia49 Posts
August 12 2010 06:22 GMT
#218
I read the first 2 pages of this thread, and have no clue about the Korean SC scene.

But I gotta ask.

Why do you people from places like Australia, Bulgaria and the US care about how well SCII has fared in Korea?
shadesofkarma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Romania708 Posts
August 12 2010 07:34 GMT
#219
On August 10 2010 06:25 Ideas wrote:
how come it got un-featured from the main page? everyone should read this.


TBH I've noticed TL doing everything they can to advertise SC2 (even having chill talk in a phony car salesman voice), could we be possibly seeing some censorship here?

JK

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or not;;
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8084 Posts
August 12 2010 07:43 GMT
#220
On August 12 2010 15:22 nemanja1503 wrote:
I read the first 2 pages of this thread, and have no clue about the Korean SC scene.

But I gotta ask.

Why do you people from places like Australia, Bulgaria and the US care about how well SCII has fared in Korea?


probably because korea has the strongest and best esports scene in the world. korean SC scene is like 1000x better than all other esports put together.
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