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lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
August 13 2011 00:45 GMT
#281
On August 13 2011 09:13 GreenTae wrote:
I would just like to say one thing....GOM is bad and it makes me sad. The new show with hong jin ho "project A" sounds awesome to me (KTF!!! HONG JIN HO!!! WOOOO!!) i even stayed up till 6am to watch it. But the comic book like summations were lack luster to say the least and the translations were pitiful. When will GOMTV get a translator who can translate everything effectively and account for nuance in korean speech and translate it effectively to english. IF foreigners are the majority of the fanbase for GSL and sc2 then why not get a proper translator for everything. -_- holy check.


They won't hire a fluent English/Korean speaker just for the purpose of translating. They will have them have more responsibilities to get their money's worth. They want the most amount of work/service/slavery on the least amount of money so obviously it will be hard to get a bilingual person who would be willing to do it for less than they can make than, say, teaching English in Korea.
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HappyMan
Profile Joined June 2010
United States129 Posts
August 13 2011 02:53 GMT
#282
Holy bump batman...
TechSC
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada40 Posts
August 13 2011 04:39 GMT
#283
Although nobody will read this, the bigger prize pool would be pretty important to me if I was competing. I would like to see the prize pool there, and get some new people in the mix to fix the problems that Gom has. Great read, and hopefully people with power read it too and agree and make some changes.
Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
August 13 2011 06:18 GMT
#284
It's too bad, because of the money being injected into SC2, SC2 will generate aspiring gamers who aim to play on a professional level, but they don't have enough casuals interested without television. SC2 will have the players but not the audience. With time though, that will may change.
TitleRug
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States651 Posts
August 14 2011 05:38 GMT
#285
On August 09 2010 01:16 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 01:07 Rekrul wrote:
On August 08 2010 23:29 Milkis wrote:
First of all, even if they don't sell everyone copies of their new game right away, one thing they do is plant it in their memories for later.


1) Like Starcraft 2 won't be in their memories even without all the advertisment?
2) That's all well said if the memories are good or even neutral. Where's the guarantee that it'll be actually a positive memory?
3) If they're not going to pay for it when it's free right now, why do you think they may pay for it later?

Secondly Koreans are totally fad-oriented. So what if it wasn't what they hoped and the fad began as soon as the game out, that doesn't mean it still can't happen later.


Again, why would there be a "fad" for SC2? Is there any reason other than "Nationalism" or the unlikely scenario of Boxer swapping to promote SC2? There's a lot of variables that needs to be there for a fad to start and SC2 does not meet many of them.

If there's one thing I've learned about Koreans is they have their national pride and everyone can instantly start loving something they had no previous knowledge of before (this has been demonstrated time and time again with olympics and yes I realize you can't really compare gaming to olympics realistically but it does show the Koreans' incliations). Imagine a Korean team winning the first worldwide tournament. Blizzard will be saying 'Gg KESPA' as shelves at gamestores are emptied. Or imagine Blizzard getting some key names like Boxer to abandon ties to KESPA and go on a massive advertising campaign for SC2.


Doesn't mean Koreans can't recognize trash. Yeah, D-War sold well, but.... I'm sure every Korean knows how trashy it was.

Yeah, we all know how Kim Yu-na singlehandedly saved Figure Skating in Korea. But remember, she's a special exception. There's a lot of events Korea has been constantly winning in Olympics and there isn't much interest in them. There wasn't a sudden boom of Handball after the Women's team won back then. Kim Yu-na is literally called "Korea's national daughter". No one is going to be saying anything remotely to that for Starcraft 2.

Yeah, Koreans in Starcraft 2 can win as many events as they want. But I honestly doubt anyone is going to start picking it up just cause Korea won some tournament. What actually matters is people putting together quality content for Starcraft 2, to have casuals watch it and go "Hey this is kinda fun to watch". GomTV is the worst candidate in the world to make that happen.

You're also wrong about sponsors. The reason why people sponsor Starcraft is that it connects them with the younger generations that actually watch Starcraft. Corporations have to be absolute fools to advertise aiming only at the small minority who would play Starcraft 2, no matter how big it gets in the foreign world. Do you really think casuals will play and watch Starcraft 2 a year down the line? Doubtful. There's very little reasons why there'll be sponsors even if it becomes big outside Korea. Why would that mean KOREAN COMPANIES sponsor them just because it's popular out of Korea? Why does that mean it "crawls" back into the mainstream? It just means that a few highly competitive players will be keep playing the game, it doesnt mean that casuals will watch it and enjoy it -_-


You underestimate many things. Look back at this thread in a year and we'll see whos right

<--- Me.


Right in terms of what?

Either way, anything I say will "change" based on new Blizzard/Gretech Policies so it'll be hard to tell. If we're simply going to see who's right on "Korean Nationalism" saving SC2, then.... yeah, we'll see


Who's right?
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 14 2011 05:43 GMT
#286
I am
Arachne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
South Africa426 Posts
March 02 2012 14:40 GMT
#287
I am interested in how this turned out. If MrHoon or Rekrul or Milki's can give an indication? From what I understand, BW contracts have expired now, and so far I have yet to see any BW names I recognize (I know none besides the occasional power ranking i read) switching over. I also hear the Korean GM are like 100 ppl, with the remaining hundred accounts being about one of 7 different ppl's smurfs (MKP has 5 or sumthing I heard once :D ).

So yeah, how is the Korean situation now?

Also, where is the promised follow up by MrHoon? :D
Love reading scandal ^^
If I were a rich man, I wouldn't be here
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
March 02 2012 14:47 GMT
#288
On March 02 2012 23:40 TheEconomist wrote:
I am interested in how this turned out. If MrHoon or Rekrul or Milki's can give an indication? From what I understand, BW contracts have expired now, and so far I have yet to see any BW names I recognize (I know none besides the occasional power ranking i read) switching over. I also hear the Korean GM are like 100 ppl, with the remaining hundred accounts being about one of 7 different ppl's smurfs (MKP has 5 or sumthing I heard once :D ).

So yeah, how is the Korean situation now?

Also, where is the promised follow up by MrHoon? :D
Love reading scandal ^^


Around last October/nov, Fomos/DES started dropping heavy hints about how Proleague could pick up StarCraft 2. Since then, popularity of the games started to increase a bit. Still nothing compared to BW though.

Gom said that "there are no negotiations" around back then but they shut up about that since then, implying there has been a negotiation process. If KeSPA gets it, the entire scene will swap over. They set up PL for exactly that purpose. KeSPA players are practicing SC2 on the side atm to prepare for the switch, some more than the others.

So KeSPA is preparing 100% switch to SC2. They can't get anymore sponsors with BW, since it's gotten miles harder since the IP rights scandal Blizzard pulled. Sponsors also started pulling out sending negative signals, so it's harder at this point to keep a BW league going. They need something new. That something new will be LoL, unless Gom/KeSPA negotiates successfully. If Gom's the only person running SC2 then SC2 in Korea *will* fail within this year.
Arachne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
South Africa426 Posts
March 02 2012 16:05 GMT
#289
Thanks. Exactly what I was looking for.

If I were a rich man, I wouldn't be here
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
March 14 2012 11:57 GMT
#290
The problem is that KeSPA and OGN are planning to switch to LoL instead. LoL is free, Riot isn't extorting tournament organizers for money like Blizzard, and Riot actually has one-click tournament stream links with their online UI unlike Battle.net.

I really want SC2 to succeed and become huge, but Blizzard seems to just not care and are sabotaging it instead of doing what Riot is doing to promote LoL.
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
March 14 2012 17:57 GMT
#291
I never knew that koreans were computer illiterate. Today I learned :O
Life's good :D
SaintFrancis
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada46 Posts
July 19 2012 19:13 GMT
#292
So how will starcraft 2 be with the Kespa players switching to SC2 ? Will it become huge like broodwar ? It may take time, but I believe it will become more popular in Korea.
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Cinquedea
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada144 Posts
July 19 2012 21:06 GMT
#293
huh...I was told that GOMTV was televised on some unpopular TV channel that everybody hates.
Too strange to live, too rare to die.
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
July 19 2012 21:22 GMT
#294
On July 20 2012 06:06 Cinquedea wrote:
huh...I was told that GOMTV was televised on some unpopular TV channel that everybody hates.


Anibox, iirc.
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Rick Deckard
Profile Joined October 2010
90 Posts
August 31 2012 00:27 GMT
#295
Wonder if the situation is improving now with the osl including sc2 games.

Would like to see blizzard change their business model, stop charging per copy of sc2 and make it free to play. Shifting to in game advertising or something instead. Also blizzard charging kespa money for kespa helping making blizzard games popular is just not right.

Either that or for another company to make a sc2 like game. Blizzard needs to get a clue or they are history. Just my 2 cents.
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