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kb.RepulsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
China124 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 05:10:50
August 05 2010 04:48 GMT
#1
Another won't hurt right? Yeah this is a girl blog haha.

I'm hoping TL's vast girl experience can help me out here. So like, I know this girl, and no I will not tell you her name or post any pictuers. I met her after we got put on the same USTA Junior Team Tennis team.

Here's some background. She's a year older than me (haha yeah I know, w/e). She's going to be a senior and I'm going to be a junior in high school. Anyways, she's played tennis since she was 6 and she is REALLY good. Like, only 2 guys at my school can beat her. I can't beat her. Her rating is at least 3.5 but she can compete at a 4.0 level. I'm a weak 3.5. She also likes playing violin in her free time. I play viola myself. She's in all the advanced classes (she just took calculus as a junior) She's Japanese and I'm Chinese (ironic, huh). Lastly, she is HOT.

Anyways, over the summer, we played on the same JTT team and she was our girls singles and I was the boys singles. However, our coach needed a good mixed doubles team so we were put together to play mixed doubles (hell yes!) We did EXTREMELY well together. We worked really well together and went undefeated for this season (8 wins, 0 losses, 2 ties). The ties were from sectionals where the format allows for a tie. She told me she really liked playing doubles with me.

Naturally, what's a guy suppose to do when he plays mixed doubles with a really hot Japanese girl who is phenomenal at tennis, athletic, really outgoing, and has the same interest as him. I started to really like her.

Now I'm not good looking, just average. I'm skinny (I'm asian so duh). I'm pretty athletic just not super strong. I consider myself to excell pretty well in academics (3.97 GPA while still taking many honors/ap classes). I'm pretty sociable and I know how to make girls laugh but I'm not a baller or anything. Me and her, we text sometimes and we always chat like on change overs during our matches and while were watching our teammates play.

Anyways, our season is over and our team is going to the beach soon. I'm probably not going to get a chance alone with her haha.

Help me TL! What should I do next?

Edit: She just broke up with her bf like a month ago. But she told me she thinks he's a player and a "douche"

**
ClanOverdosed
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
691 Posts
August 05 2010 04:56 GMT
#2
You should ask her out on a date!
Overdosed--www.overdosed.net
canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
August 05 2010 04:56 GMT
#3
Stare at her face and look for any reactions.
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
August 05 2010 04:57 GMT
#4
Let the relationship naturally take its course. Talk when you feel like, go out when you feel like, try to be atentive wether the idea you have about her is starting to take over the relationship that's growing between you two; this nullifies whatever relationship you have with her and it becomes about how you can use her to cement an ideal you have about yourself.

Be atentive, that's all, to what grows between you. Don't rush, listen to what you feel without running into judging it as good or bad. Remember that life is relationship, learn from it. If you feel anxious stop and observe where does the anxiousness come from. Know to listen, watch her, learn from her, look at the little things.

Just dont go into it with a goal in mind. If you do, she will just be a tool in the proyection of whatever image of yourself you're trying to build, which isnt bad, but it is a type of approach that narrows down what this relationship can grow to.
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
August 05 2010 04:58 GMT
#5
On August 05 2010 13:56 canucks12 wrote:
Stare at her face and look for any reactions.


don't do it

go out with her more often, like out to eat etc.
you sound like a good guy, so just act natural and do your own thing. Sounds like you're at least pretty funny, so this should go well if you don't go over the top or have harsh competition ;p

lastly, gotta be more confident. Don't think of yourself as "skinny" or weak etc., just play and think of your strengths instead.
Hey! Listen!
darkponcho
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States262 Posts
August 05 2010 05:02 GMT
#6
train tennis win a grand slam title and then propose
life
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
August 05 2010 05:05 GMT
#7
you sound like a nice dude who isn't totally socially inept so honestly I think doing whatever you feel is right will work out.
TommyGG
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States142 Posts
August 05 2010 05:06 GMT
#8
you HAVE to make sure you have the right stats not to bring shame to her family. she took calculus her junior year, that means she is smart, so you need to boost your GPA to at least a 4.2 to be on an equal level with her. you are already at a severe disadvantage because she is better than you at tennis. in order to make up for the imbalance, you must tell her family you have a high level CCP membership in addition to your american passport to make yourself more desirable. any other achievements that you have accomplished make sure to let her know so that you will have a better chance with her. I cannot imagine a 4.0 USTA Junior Team girl dating a weak 3.5 with a GPA below a 4.0. you have your work cut our for you
kb.RepulsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
China124 Posts
August 05 2010 05:09 GMT
#9
On August 05 2010 14:06 TommyGG wrote:
you HAVE to make sure you have the right stats not to bring shame to her family. she took calculus her junior year, that means she is smart, so you need to boost your GPA to at least a 4.2 to be on an equal level with her. you are already at a severe disadvantage because she is better than you at tennis. in order to make up for the imbalance, you must tell her family you have a high level CCP membership in addition to your american passport to make yourself more desirable. any other achievements that you have accomplished make sure to let her know so that you will have a better chance with her. I cannot imagine a 4.0 USTA Junior Team girl dating a weak 3.5 with a GPA below a 4.0. you have your work cut our for you


rofl this made me laugh so much
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 05 2010 05:09 GMT
#10
Start throwing eraser bits at her. When she turns around and looks at you, just look away like you are completely innocent. Once she looks away again, continue. Try to get through an entire eraser before she gets irritated and tells you to quit it.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 05 2010 05:12 GMT
#11
what you should do next is have this closed and never post another girl blog on tl

seriously man some times you just gotta figure things out for yourself in life, and this is one of those things.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
rA.BreeZe
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada56 Posts
August 05 2010 05:13 GMT
#12
On August 05 2010 14:09 Chairman Ray wrote:
Start throwing eraser bits at her. When she turns around and looks at you, just look away like you are completely innocent. Once she looks away again, continue. Try to get through an entire eraser before she gets irritated and tells you to quit it.


LOL WTF?
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 05 2010 05:16 GMT
#13
On August 05 2010 14:09 Chairman Ray wrote:
Start throwing eraser bits at her. When she turns around and looks at you, just look away like you are completely innocent. Once she looks away again, continue. Try to get through an entire eraser before she gets irritated and tells you to quit it.

If you're not gonna ask her out on a date or something, you should definitely consider this.
God Bless
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 05:25:21
August 05 2010 05:22 GMT
#14
Personally I find these blogs entertaining - makes me feel like a Dr. Phil or Montel (lolol).
You seem to already have the basic necessities for making this relationship advance, all you got to do is gauge her interest and go from there. Take chances...

On July 28 2010 00:50 Chill wrote:
Smash them fuckin' titties. You are a stallion.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
August 05 2010 05:24 GMT
#15
lol eraser bits

tell her you like her and ask her out:

a)she says no. too bad, she doesnt like you (yet), try again some other time
b)she says yes. YES! TIME TO GET SOME CLUNGE! just kidding, go out and have fun
HEY MEYT
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
August 05 2010 05:25 GMT
#16
On August 05 2010 13:56 Beloth(OD) wrote:
You should ask her out on a date!


MADNESS
:O
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 05:33:15
August 05 2010 05:30 GMT
#17
On August 05 2010 13:56 Beloth(OD) wrote:
You should ask her out on a date!


Hahaha this made me laugh :D

I mean, what do you want us to say? If you want to go out with her, ask.

Also, does anyone else find it annoying that people throw in random stuff like "I have a 3.97 GPA" and "I'm asian!" in their blogs? It's irrelevant and it really doesn't distinguish you from half of Teamliquid, I'm afraid.

Edit: I just reread comments and TommyGG expressed my feelings much more cleverly than I could!
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
August 05 2010 05:37 GMT
#18
On August 05 2010 14:30 nbaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 13:56 Beloth(OD) wrote:
You should ask her out on a date!


Hahaha this made me laugh :D

I mean, what do you want us to say? If you want to go out with her, ask.

Also, does anyone else find it annoying that people throw in random stuff like "I have a 3.97 GPA" and "I'm asian!" in their blogs? It's irrelevant and it really doesn't distinguish you from half of Teamliquid, I'm afraid.

Edit: I just reread comments and TommyGG expressed my feelings much more cleverly than I could!


Nah, it provides some context, he might think the girl thinks it's important that he excels academically. Besides, the 1/2 on TL with 4.0 GPA would just think, "pfft, 3.97, what a noob".

Anyway, OP, you have to realize, girls in general don't mind going on dates, as long as she doesn't find you repulsive, she'll probably say "yes", so ask away. Pick a place where you can have a decent conversation.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
August 05 2010 05:45 GMT
#19
tits

or gtfo.

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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
August 05 2010 05:51 GMT
#20
On August 05 2010 14:45 funkie wrote:
tits

or gtfo.



User was warned for this post
Fan of the Jangbanger
kb.RepulsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
China124 Posts
August 05 2010 06:02 GMT
#21
On August 05 2010 14:51 O-ops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 14:45 funkie wrote:
tits

or gtfo.



gtfo

User was warned for this post
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
August 05 2010 06:29 GMT
#22
Next time you win a doubles match with her, pat her on the butt and see what happens.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
kb.RepulsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
China124 Posts
August 05 2010 06:33 GMT
#23
On August 05 2010 15:29 Luddite wrote:
Next time you win a doubles match with her, pat her on the butt and see what happens.


rofl. Too bad season's over.
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
August 05 2010 07:02 GMT
#24
On August 05 2010 15:33 kb.RepulsE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 15:29 Luddite wrote:
Next time you win a doubles match with her, pat her on the butt and see what happens.


rofl. Too bad season's over.

But hunting season



just opened.
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
TimmyMac
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada499 Posts
August 05 2010 07:10 GMT
#25
On August 05 2010 16:02 Badjas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 15:33 kb.RepulsE wrote:
On August 05 2010 15:29 Luddite wrote:
Next time you win a doubles match with her, pat her on the butt and see what happens.


rofl. Too bad season's over.

But hunting season



just opened.

YYEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32275 Posts
August 05 2010 07:17 GMT
#26
rofl
Moderator<:3-/-<
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 05 2010 07:20 GMT
#27
you are in a very good situation compared to most of the girls blogs here. I'm sure all you need is to be more self confident, and you will get your way
ॐ
Nfi
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States357 Posts
August 05 2010 07:32 GMT
#28
Tell her about a dream you "had" that involved her and you being romanticly involved or something and see how she reacts to it.
"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person, give man a mask, and he will tell you the truth."
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 07:44:50
August 05 2010 07:43 GMT
#29
Fellow asianman reporting in. The thing that I've noticed with girls is that they tend to date people of their own types, so to speak. The ones that are not overachievers will date laid back guys. The ones that are overachievers will date overachieving guys. Rarely does some kind of a mixture successfully happen. In this case, you should make it known that you are an overachiever (I hope that's a 3.97 UNWEIGHTED GPA you're talking about there...)

Don't be afraid to be flat out rejected if you make a move... much too often I see guys like us get stuck in the limbo friend zone. Ask her out to some kind of social event... Homecoming, WF... otherwise you'll just be unsure of where things are going all the time. That being said, make sure you know what you want before you make your move. If you don't want to be more than friends, don't make any risky moves that could make things awkward between you two.
6581
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
August 05 2010 07:58 GMT
#30
Dude she wants you (or you're being delusional and just telling us lies).

Get over your confidence issues and make a move. Now!
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
August 05 2010 08:08 GMT
#31
Get out of the friends zone ASAP!
Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
August 05 2010 15:07 GMT
#32
Ask her out. If she says no, beg her to give you a chance. Whats the worst that could happen?
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
August 05 2010 15:12 GMT
#33
On August 05 2010 16:43 Loser777 wrote:
Fellow asianman reporting in. The thing that I've noticed with girls is that they tend to date people of their own types, so to speak. The ones that are not overachievers will date laid back guys. The ones that are overachievers will date overachieving guys. Rarely does some kind of a mixture successfully happen. In this case, you should make it known that you are an overachiever (I hope that's a 3.97 UNWEIGHTED GPA you're talking about there...)

Don't be afraid to be flat out rejected if you make a move... much too often I see guys like us get stuck in the limbo friend zone. Ask her out to some kind of social event... Homecoming, WF... otherwise you'll just be unsure of where things are going all the time. That being said, make sure you know what you want before you make your move. If you don't want to be more than friends, don't make any risky moves that could make things awkward between you two.


Not sure if serious. I know plenty of overachievers that date laid back guys. My own gf is a super overachieving med student and I'm a lazy ass lab tech who games all day (granted I went to an Ivy league and I'm applying to PhD programs in bio right now, but that's not really "overachieving"). She makes me work and I make her play, its a good balance. I really don't think girls care too much about how much of an overachiever you are as long as you have some ambition and a plan for the future, no need to be Mr. Straight A's in all AP classes and graduate college in 2 years. That said, she could be the type that won't even consider someone who isn't uber successful but then why date someone like that?
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 15:24:48
August 05 2010 15:24 GMT
#34
Off-topic: Is Asian self-esteem typically this low? I see so many posts here "I am *negative trait* because I'm Asian." Like why do you even need to mention you are Asian in this post? Maybe it's relevant to your strategy but it seems like you are both Americans. Like I know being white is pretty amazing but it's not like one is better than the other or something.

I've never experienced Loser777's overachiever advice, but I'm white so maybe that's a factor.
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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
August 05 2010 15:49 GMT
#35
On August 06 2010 00:24 Chill wrote:
Off-topic: Is Asian self-esteem typically this low? I see so many posts here "I am *negative trait* because I'm Asian." Like why do you even need to mention you are Asian in this post? Maybe it's relevant to your strategy but it seems like you are both Americans. Like I know being white is pretty amazing but it's not like one is better than the other or something.

I've never experienced Loser777's overachiever advice, but I'm white so maybe that's a factor.

For some reason, many Asian American guys seem less confident, more shy, and to have lower self-esteem. It's a trait shaped into them as they grow up - through all of elementary, middle, high school. They start off a bit shyer than the white kids because they're different -> less friends -> less social life etc etc. It also doesn't help that there is a prevailing stereotype among many Americans that Asian guys aren't social (vicious cycle here), have a weird/different culture, are not sexual, just stay home on their computer all day, etc. Even if many people deny this stereotype, it's in the back of their mind, and people can't be helped to think differently because it's ingrained. And then a lot of white girls don't wanna go out with a weird/different/asexual/weaker guy -> Asian guys don't have a lot of experience with girls.

It's just how they grow up and the society they're in. They can overcome these barriers though, like a lot of people. Still not the majority though

I'm Chinese American, and I thought it took a lot of 'work' and pushing myself to stop being the shy awkward kid who sits by himself. Most of it was forcing myself to be confident and to go talk to everyone (while seeming confident and friendly). Eventually, I started doing it naturally, and it makes social life a lot easier and fun.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
August 05 2010 16:02 GMT
#36
On August 06 2010 00:24 Chill wrote:
Off-topic: Is Asian self-esteem typically this low? I see so many posts here "I am *negative trait* because I'm Asian." Like why do you even need to mention you are Asian in this post? Maybe it's relevant to your strategy but it seems like you are both Americans. Like I know being white is pretty amazing but it's not like one is better than the other or something.

I've never experienced Loser777's overachiever advice, but I'm white so maybe that's a factor.


The Team Liquid blog section makes me think the answer to this question is yes, they are much more reserved.

Also, being white is fantastic beyond description. Let's not sugar coat it. This shit is thoroughly good.
:O
Ian Ian Ian
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
915 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 16:05:06
August 05 2010 16:04 GMT
#37
Don't stick around in friend zone too long... I'd say ask her out sometime..

Don't sit there and tell us why you shouldn't do it. Like, if you don't think you have a nice body, do something about it. Don't sit and complain lol. There's always a million reaosns not to do something, what's life if you're not going to take chances?

Also, white power
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
August 05 2010 16:14 GMT
#38
I like the direction this thread is taking.
:O
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
August 05 2010 17:38 GMT
#39
You don't even need a good body to .. 'take care of her'. You're not supposed to lift her up the stairs or anything like that. Opening a can of spinach is not done by squeezing it with bare hands. She's not looking at the guy who's first at the finish line, rather she would be looking at the guy she knows and has laughs with. Seriously.
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
kb.RepulsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
China124 Posts
August 05 2010 17:46 GMT
#40
On August 05 2010 16:43 Loser777 wrote:
Fellow asianman reporting in. The thing that I've noticed with girls is that they tend to date people of their own types, so to speak. The ones that are not overachievers will date laid back guys. The ones that are overachievers will date overachieving guys. Rarely does some kind of a mixture successfully happen. In this case, you should make it known that you are an overachiever (I hope that's a 3.97 UNWEIGHTED GPA you're talking about there...)

Don't be afraid to be flat out rejected if you make a move... much too often I see guys like us get stuck in the limbo friend zone. Ask her out to some kind of social event... Homecoming, WF... otherwise you'll just be unsure of where things are going all the time. That being said, make sure you know what you want before you make your move. If you don't want to be more than friends, don't make any risky moves that could make things awkward between you two.


Haha your username is so perfect. Anyways. She's a year older than me, so what if she's the type of girl who is like, no sorry I don't go on dates with younger guys.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
August 05 2010 18:04 GMT
#41
On August 06 2010 02:46 kb.RepulsE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 16:43 Loser777 wrote:
Fellow asianman reporting in. The thing that I've noticed with girls is that they tend to date people of their own types, so to speak. The ones that are not overachievers will date laid back guys. The ones that are overachievers will date overachieving guys. Rarely does some kind of a mixture successfully happen. In this case, you should make it known that you are an overachiever (I hope that's a 3.97 UNWEIGHTED GPA you're talking about there...)

Don't be afraid to be flat out rejected if you make a move... much too often I see guys like us get stuck in the limbo friend zone. Ask her out to some kind of social event... Homecoming, WF... otherwise you'll just be unsure of where things are going all the time. That being said, make sure you know what you want before you make your move. If you don't want to be more than friends, don't make any risky moves that could make things awkward between you two.


Haha your username is so perfect. Anyways. She's a year older than me, so what if she's the type of girl who is like, no sorry I don't go on dates with younger guys.


Is she Japanese-American or fob? I've met a few korean girls who wouldn't date younger guys (mostly fobs but one korean american) but never a japanese american girl.
Happy.fairytail
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States327 Posts
August 05 2010 18:18 GMT
#42
Dating an older girl in high school is tough man, but I'd rather live without regrets than be afraid. That's just me though, I'm the type that would rather go for it than not -- at least I don't have to wonder "what if" and maybe I can even learn from my mistakes.

For example, I asked out a really pretty girl in a band I was playing in ... that was bad, 'cuz it was so awkward for years. But I still have no regrets, because she was worth it, and I don't have to second-guess myself whether I'm ever settling for less when I ask another girl out.

Best of luck to you man, and if it ends horribly, at least you'll have awesomely awkward stories to tell your friends =P
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 18:23:16
August 05 2010 18:21 GMT
#43
On August 06 2010 00:49 ieatkids5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 00:24 Chill wrote:
Off-topic: Is Asian self-esteem typically this low? I see so many posts here "I am *negative trait* because I'm Asian." Like why do you even need to mention you are Asian in this post? Maybe it's relevant to your strategy but it seems like you are both Americans. Like I know being white is pretty amazing but it's not like one is better than the other or something.

I've never experienced Loser777's overachiever advice, but I'm white so maybe that's a factor.

For some reason, many Asian American guys seem less confident, more shy, and to have lower self-esteem. It's a trait shaped into them as they grow up - through all of elementary, middle, high school. They start off a bit shyer than the white kids because they're different -> less friends -> less social life etc etc. It also doesn't help that there is a prevailing stereotype among many Americans that Asian guys aren't social (vicious cycle here), have a weird/different culture, are not sexual, just stay home on their computer all day, etc. Even if many people deny this stereotype, it's in the back of their mind, and people can't be helped to think differently because it's ingrained. And then a lot of white girls don't wanna go out with a weird/different/asexual/weaker guy -> Asian guys don't have a lot of experience with girls.

It's just how they grow up and the society they're in. They can overcome these barriers though, like a lot of people. Still not the majority though

I'm Chinese American, and I thought it took a lot of 'work' and pushing myself to stop being the shy awkward kid who sits by himself. Most of it was forcing myself to be confident and to go talk to everyone (while seeming confident and friendly). Eventually, I started doing it naturally, and it makes social life a lot easier and fun.

This is true, but for those that don't think they're a victim of the society i believe we excel just as well if not even better. Because that's just so rare. Sorta similar why eminem was really successful not only he was a good rapper but he managed to get by and be successful even though he wasn't black, in a game that was mainly african american dominated. You can't say his color was not a reason of his success because it definitly was. He was able to get people's attention like "wow who is this white dude that can rap? i'm interested"...
i'm going off a tangent, but u get the point.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States389 Posts
August 05 2010 18:51 GMT
#44
Classic hit it and quit it scenario.
It is what it is...
milikan
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States67 Posts
August 05 2010 19:12 GMT
#45

On August 06 2010 00:49 ieatkids5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 00:24 Chill wrote:
Off-topic: Is Asian self-esteem typically this low? I see so many posts here "I am *negative trait* because I'm Asian." Like why do you even need to mention you are Asian in this post? Maybe it's relevant to your strategy but it seems like you are both Americans. Like I know being white is pretty amazing but it's not like one is better than the other or something.

I've never experienced Loser777's overachiever advice, but I'm white so maybe that's a factor.

For some reason, many Asian American guys seem less confident, more shy, and to have lower self-esteem. It's a trait shaped into them as they grow up - through all of elementary, middle, high school. They start off a bit shyer than the white kids because they're different -> less friends -> less social life etc etc. It also doesn't help that there is a prevailing stereotype among many Americans that Asian guys aren't social (vicious cycle here), have a weird/different culture, are not sexual, just stay home on their computer all day, etc. Even if many people deny this stereotype, it's in the back of their mind, and people can't be helped to think differently because it's ingrained. And then a lot of white girls don't wanna go out with a weird/different/asexual/weaker guy -> Asian guys don't have a lot of experience with girls.

It's just how they grow up and the society they're in. They can overcome these barriers though, like a lot of people. Still not the majority though

I'm Chinese American, and I thought it took a lot of 'work' and pushing myself to stop being the shy awkward kid who sits by himself. Most of it was forcing myself to be confident and to go talk to everyone (while seeming confident and friendly). Eventually, I started doing it naturally, and it makes social life a lot easier and fun.


IMO, it's because a large majority of asian parents like to yell at their kids and tell them how much shame the 3.99 GPA brings on the family. That, and a nice beating every now and then seals the deal.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
August 05 2010 19:34 GMT
#46
On August 06 2010 03:21 YPang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 00:49 ieatkids5 wrote:
On August 06 2010 00:24 Chill wrote:
Off-topic: Is Asian self-esteem typically this low? I see so many posts here "I am *negative trait* because I'm Asian." Like why do you even need to mention you are Asian in this post? Maybe it's relevant to your strategy but it seems like you are both Americans. Like I know being white is pretty amazing but it's not like one is better than the other or something.

I've never experienced Loser777's overachiever advice, but I'm white so maybe that's a factor.

For some reason, many Asian American guys seem less confident, more shy, and to have lower self-esteem. It's a trait shaped into them as they grow up - through all of elementary, middle, high school. They start off a bit shyer than the white kids because they're different -> less friends -> less social life etc etc. It also doesn't help that there is a prevailing stereotype among many Americans that Asian guys aren't social (vicious cycle here), have a weird/different culture, are not sexual, just stay home on their computer all day, etc. Even if many people deny this stereotype, it's in the back of their mind, and people can't be helped to think differently because it's ingrained. And then a lot of white girls don't wanna go out with a weird/different/asexual/weaker guy -> Asian guys don't have a lot of experience with girls.

It's just how they grow up and the society they're in. They can overcome these barriers though, like a lot of people. Still not the majority though

I'm Chinese American, and I thought it took a lot of 'work' and pushing myself to stop being the shy awkward kid who sits by himself. Most of it was forcing myself to be confident and to go talk to everyone (while seeming confident and friendly). Eventually, I started doing it naturally, and it makes social life a lot easier and fun.

This is true, but for those that don't think they're a victim of the society i believe we excel just as well if not even better. Because that's just so rare. Sorta similar why eminem was really successful not only he was a good rapper but he managed to get by and be successful even though he wasn't black, in a game that was mainly african american dominated. You can't say his color was not a reason of his success because it definitly was. He was able to get people's attention like "wow who is this white dude that can rap? i'm interested"...
i'm going off a tangent, but u get the point.

Oohh that's a good point that I missed.

OP - like everyone else said, ask her out. Now.
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
August 05 2010 20:00 GMT
#47
Man, I don't know what it's like in the rest of America, but where I live (New Jersey) Asians do fine and are not "shyer" or "less socially adept" than the rest of us. Maybe I cannot understand because I'm white, but I've never found race to be particularly relevant in any of my social interactions.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
August 05 2010 20:06 GMT
#48
Easy, write an anonymous "I love you" and put it on her desk before class. When she picks it up, she who she looks at. If she looks at you, than either she loves you or thinks you love her.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 05 2010 20:06 GMT
#49
On August 06 2010 00:24 Chill wrote:
Off-topic: Is Asian self-esteem typically this low? I see so many posts here "I am *negative trait* because I'm Asian." Like why do you even need to mention you are Asian in this post? Maybe it's relevant to your strategy but it seems like you are both Americans. Like I know being white is pretty amazing but it's not like one is better than the other or something.

I've never experienced Loser777's overachiever advice, but I'm white so maybe that's a factor.


Asian culture in particular apparently encourages humbleness. I've been told by guidance counselors and teachers "I know you're asian and you want to belittle yourself as form of respect, but that doesn't get you into college" etc. countless times.
:)
YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
August 05 2010 20:39 GMT
#50
I fail to see how her being Japanese and you being Chinese is "ironic" by any sense of the word.

And yeah, I think the humbleness is definitely related to the emphasis on hard work that Asian parents have. If you don't stay humble and start thinking, "Hey, I'm awesome at X and I'm Asian" instead of "Hey, I'm bad at X because I'm Asian" (yeah, working the Asian part into it is kind of tenuous, but stick with me here) then you stop working as hard because of how good you already are at it, and then other people catch up and surpass you and then you actually suck at X. So even if you're good at something, it's still better to drop the hubris and keep on working hard.
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JinNJuice
Profile Joined June 2010
United States255 Posts
August 05 2010 20:55 GMT
#51
I'm Asian, my ex-gf in high school was white, a year and a half older than me, and we did fine. If i can do it, you can do it. Just ask her out.

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I'm really not lying, for 3 months a year she was 2 years older than me. And she really was white.
guN-viCe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States687 Posts
August 05 2010 21:13 GMT
#52
ask her if she likes you?
ask her if shes looking for a bf?

there are plenty of easy ways to give hints..

if she is half as smart as you say she is, she will know whats up and respond accordingly
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4201 Posts
August 05 2010 21:25 GMT
#53
On August 05 2010 14:09 Chairman Ray wrote:
Start throwing eraser bits at her. When she turns around and looks at you, just look away like you are completely innocent. Once she looks away again, continue. Try to get through an entire eraser before she gets irritated and tells you to quit it.

+1

Or some similar, dumb thing. It really does work.
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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-05 21:27:52
August 05 2010 21:26 GMT
#54
On August 06 2010 05:39 DTK-m2 wrote:
I fail to see how her being Japanese and you being Chinese is "ironic" by any sense of the word.

And yeah, I think the humbleness is definitely related to the emphasis on hard work that Asian parents have. If you don't stay humble and start thinking, "Hey, I'm awesome at X and I'm Asian" instead of "Hey, I'm bad at X because I'm Asian" (yeah, working the Asian part into it is kind of tenuous, but stick with me here) then you stop working as hard because of how good you already are at it, and then other people catch up and surpass you and then you actually suck at X. So even if you're good at something, it's still better to drop the hubris and keep on working hard.

Yeah, that's the best way. Be confident, know what you're capable of, and improve yourself.

I respond differently depending on who I'm talking to:

While in college meeting new people and I mention that I like to play pingpong (competitively I add in), they always ask if I'm good. I say 'Oh I play once in a while...' in a certain tone and give them a smirk. Body language, how it is said, facial expression, are all important in conveying to them that you actually mean 'yeah I'm pretty damn good'. Or I just tell them that straight up if they seem like someone who enjoys that kind of talk.

Talking with fobby nice Chinese/Korean guys: I'll tell them that I do like to play a lot, and I'm ok. Then I tell them my rating and what it means (impresses them when you talk about playing in tournaments to get a rating, but doesn't sound like you're bragging).

Talking to fobby, more popular, confident, socialite Asian guys and any Asian girl: Tell them I'm pretty good and that we should play sometime. Throw in some typical Asian compliments ("the training they have in Asia is a lot more intense than in the US, so you could probably give me a few tips when we play")

On August 06 2010 06:13 guN-viCe wrote:
ask her if she likes you?
ask her if shes looking for a bf?

there are plenty of easy ways to give hints..

if she is half as smart as you say she is, she will know whats up and respond accordingly

wat
Terrible way to ask someone out. You need to be forward and confident.
iloahz
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States964 Posts
August 05 2010 21:38 GMT
#55
On August 06 2010 00:24 Chill wrote:
Off-topic: Is Asian self-esteem typically this low? I see so many posts here "I am *negative trait* because I'm Asian." Like why do you even need to mention you are Asian in this post? Maybe it's relevant to your strategy but it seems like you are both Americans. Like I know being white is pretty amazing but it's not like one is better than the other or something.

I've never experienced Loser777's overachiever advice, but I'm white so maybe that's a factor.


yea I believe it's typically that low.
kb.RepulsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
China124 Posts
August 05 2010 21:42 GMT
#56
On August 06 2010 05:39 DTK-m2 wrote:
I fail to see how her being Japanese and you being Chinese is "ironic" by any sense of the word.

And yeah, I think the humbleness is definitely related to the emphasis on hard work that Asian parents have. If you don't stay humble and start thinking, "Hey, I'm awesome at X and I'm Asian" instead of "Hey, I'm bad at X because I'm Asian" (yeah, working the Asian part into it is kind of tenuous, but stick with me here) then you stop working as hard because of how good you already are at it, and then other people catch up and surpass you and then you actually suck at X. So even if you're good at something, it's still better to drop the hubris and keep on working hard.


World War 2. Lol. But she's like a 4th generation Japanese-American. Her parents can't even speak the language.
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
August 05 2010 21:48 GMT
#57
On August 06 2010 05:39 DTK-m2 wrote:
I fail to see how her being Japanese and you being Chinese is "ironic" by any sense of the word.

And yeah, I think the humbleness is definitely related to the emphasis on hard work that Asian parents have. If you don't stay humble and start thinking, "Hey, I'm awesome at X and I'm Asian" instead of "Hey, I'm bad at X because I'm Asian" (yeah, working the Asian part into it is kind of tenuous, but stick with me here) then you stop working as hard because of how good you already are at it, and then other people catch up and surpass you and then you actually suck at X. So even if you're good at something, it's still better to drop the hubris and keep on working hard.

Rape of Nanjing much?

...
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
August 05 2010 21:49 GMT
#58
Dude, just fucking ask her out already, it's not a big deal.

If she says yes, you win.
If she says no, live moves on, you are only in High School.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 05 2010 22:13 GMT
#59
On August 06 2010 05:39 DTK-m2 wrote:
I fail to see how her being Japanese and you being Chinese is "ironic" by any sense of the word.

70 years ago she would've been trying to rape him, but now the tides have turned.
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xJacky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
China375 Posts
August 05 2010 22:14 GMT
#60
Sigh, help the poor guy out. Im a junior too haha!

But seriously, just ask her out on a date, straight up. Theres nothing better than that. If a dance or something is coming up, you can ask her to that.
Love was supposed to be something women chased, not men. - Neil Strauss
kb.RepulsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
China124 Posts
August 06 2010 01:10 GMT
#61
On August 06 2010 07:13 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 05:39 DTK-m2 wrote:
I fail to see how her being Japanese and you being Chinese is "ironic" by any sense of the word.

70 years ago she would've been trying to rape him, but now the tides have turned.


Haha. What way to explain that :p
YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
August 06 2010 05:08 GMT
#62
On August 06 2010 07:13 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 05:39 DTK-m2 wrote:
I fail to see how her being Japanese and you being Chinese is "ironic" by any sense of the word.

70 years ago she would've been trying to rape him, but now the tides have turned.


Lol, pretty awesome way of phrasing it.

Still, that's not exactly ironic. It's perhaps an unfortunate or awkward situation (or not, maybe), but not irony.
안지호
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
August 06 2010 05:30 GMT
#63
On August 06 2010 14:08 DTK-m2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2010 07:13 Jibba wrote:
On August 06 2010 05:39 DTK-m2 wrote:
I fail to see how her being Japanese and you being Chinese is "ironic" by any sense of the word.

70 years ago she would've been trying to rape him, but now the tides have turned.


Lol, pretty awesome way of phrasing it.

Still, that's not exactly ironic. It's perhaps an unfortunate or awkward situation (or not, maybe), but not irony.

I'd like to think we were past nationalistic bigotry D:
6581
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Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States593 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-06 05:42:02
August 06 2010 05:41 GMT
#64
Step 1) sneak up behind them
Step 1.5) unzip your fly
Step 2) smell her hair
Step 3) if she asks, tell her you were practicing your stroke.
Step 6) ask her what her astrological sign is
Step 7) ask her for her address.
Step 8) ask her where her room is.

professional advice here.
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
August 06 2010 06:58 GMT
#65
On August 06 2010 05:06 Pandain wrote:
Easy, write an anonymous "I love you" and put it on her desk before class. When she picks it up, she who she looks at. If she looks at you, than either she loves you or thinks you love her.


I thought this was kinda funny, but also could potentially give you a hint.

First reply to this blog made my day though. I dunno why I found it so funny haha xd
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
April 15 2011 04:27 GMT
#66
On August 05 2010 14:09 Chairman Ray wrote:
Start throwing eraser bits at her. When she turns around and looks at you, just look away like you are completely innocent. Once she looks away again, continue. Try to get through an entire eraser before she gets irritated and tells you to quit it.

LOLROFL.

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Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
April 15 2011 04:32 GMT
#67
What the bump?
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SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 05:06:59
April 15 2011 04:36 GMT
#68
On August 06 2010 02:46 kb.RepulsE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2010 16:43 Loser777 wrote:
Fellow asianman reporting in. The thing that I've noticed with girls is that they tend to date people of their own types, so to speak. The ones that are not overachievers will date laid back guys. The ones that are overachievers will date overachieving guys. Rarely does some kind of a mixture successfully happen. In this case, you should make it known that you are an overachiever (I hope that's a 3.97 UNWEIGHTED GPA you're talking about there...)

Don't be afraid to be flat out rejected if you make a move... much too often I see guys like us get stuck in the limbo friend zone. Ask her out to some kind of social event... Homecoming, WF... otherwise you'll just be unsure of where things are going all the time. That being said, make sure you know what you want before you make your move. If you don't want to be more than friends, don't make any risky moves that could make things awkward between you two.


Haha your username is so perfect. Anyways. She's a year older than me, so what if she's the type of girl who is like, no sorry I don't go on dates with younger guys.

then theres your answer?


edit: holy shit. on the phone and realized this thread is ollddd, damn necro.

Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
April 15 2011 06:18 GMT
#69
Reading through the posts makes me laughing
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AdamNotGosu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States17 Posts
April 15 2011 07:24 GMT
#70
Just do it, because like it or not college changes people. Do what people in American Pie would do lolol.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66202 Posts
May 08 2011 15:39 GMT
#71
relationship advice threads are great
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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States625 Posts
May 08 2011 17:24 GMT
#72
lol I wasn't looking at the dates and had a nice reply in mind
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