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On June 28 2010 08:46 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2010 08:37 Bibbit wrote:
Empyrean, were/are you a big name in competitive Pokemans? I might be familiar enough with the scene to know who you are. But it all seems so long ago. T_T Haha, no, not really. I have a smogon account on an alt, and none of my Shoddy accounts match up with either my TL or smogon accounts. I used to be very good at NetBattle (had a very potent Dusclops set that I don't think anyone else used...Pain Split/Curse/WoW/Protect with def/spd EVs), but I'm worse at DPP. I'm a consistent ~1400 CRE on shoddy with most of my teams, so in terms of skill, I'm above average in the smogon shoddy server, and way ahead of the general Pokemon playing base.
I'm just trying to remember how to play right now but I think I was about 1300-1400 CRE back in the day. We should play sometime. 
Right now I'm ass but hopefully I can be less ass soon and maybe get a feel for where the metagame is at.
Edit: Does Scizor still rape everything and is it on like every team still?
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I remember trying to chain pokemons in Platinum a while back and got to like 30 before I broke my chain. I gave up after that.
I definitely suggest Shoddy Battle if you are interested in competitive Pokemon. Even though the interface is pretty basic, it is really easy to use and popular.
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To be fair, the odds of not seeing a shiny pokemon after seeing 5000 pokemon in grass are ~50% so if you have a friend, sibling, parent that has a shiny pokemon... well, you know who to blame.
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The only shiny pokemon I ever caught besides the red gyrados was a random oddish. It just sat in my database.
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i had a shiny ho-oh, but i never used it cuz it was so annoying it took longer than normal to run from a wild pokemon.
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Is no one else gonna mention those lottery odds? 1/8000? Try 1/13,983,816 (6/49)
Good luck in your shiny quest though.
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On June 28 2010 08:51 Bibbit wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2010 08:46 Empyrean wrote:On June 28 2010 08:37 Bibbit wrote:
Empyrean, were/are you a big name in competitive Pokemans? I might be familiar enough with the scene to know who you are. But it all seems so long ago. T_T Haha, no, not really. I have a smogon account on an alt, and none of my Shoddy accounts match up with either my TL or smogon accounts. I used to be very good at NetBattle (had a very potent Dusclops set that I don't think anyone else used...Pain Split/Curse/WoW/Protect with def/spd EVs), but I'm worse at DPP. I'm a consistent ~1400 CRE on shoddy with most of my teams, so in terms of skill, I'm above average in the smogon shoddy server, and way ahead of the general Pokemon playing base. I'm just trying to remember how to play right now but I think I was about 1300-1400 CRE back in the day. We should play sometime. Right now I'm ass but hopefully I can be less ass soon and maybe get a feel for where the metagame is at. Edit: Does Scizor still rape everything and is it on like every team still?
Haven't played competitively in a while, but Scizor is still totally awesome. And in May 2010 (didn't find any more recent statistics), he was the most popular pokemon on teams in the standard OU ladder.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72965
I doubt there will be any major shifts in the competitive scene until the 5th generation comes out. Scizor still makes for one of the best scouts/revenge killers in the game and SD movesets make him really strong as a late game sweeper.
All this discussion makes me want to get back into this haha.
Edit: Forgot we're still in June haha. Those are the most recent statistics.
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On June 28 2010 09:58 NightFury wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2010 08:51 Bibbit wrote:On June 28 2010 08:46 Empyrean wrote:On June 28 2010 08:37 Bibbit wrote:
Empyrean, were/are you a big name in competitive Pokemans? I might be familiar enough with the scene to know who you are. But it all seems so long ago. T_T Haha, no, not really. I have a smogon account on an alt, and none of my Shoddy accounts match up with either my TL or smogon accounts. I used to be very good at NetBattle (had a very potent Dusclops set that I don't think anyone else used...Pain Split/Curse/WoW/Protect with def/spd EVs), but I'm worse at DPP. I'm a consistent ~1400 CRE on shoddy with most of my teams, so in terms of skill, I'm above average in the smogon shoddy server, and way ahead of the general Pokemon playing base. I'm just trying to remember how to play right now but I think I was about 1300-1400 CRE back in the day. We should play sometime. Right now I'm ass but hopefully I can be less ass soon and maybe get a feel for where the metagame is at. Edit: Does Scizor still rape everything and is it on like every team still? Haven't played competitively in a while, but Scizor is still totally awesome. And in May 2010 (didn't find any more recent statistics), he was the most popular pokemon on teams in the standard OU ladder. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72965I doubt there will be any major shifts in the competitive scene until the 5th generation comes out. Scizor still makes for one of the best scouts/revenge killers in the game and SD movesets make him really strong as a late game sweeper. All this discussion makes me want to get back into this haha. Edit: Forgot we're still in June haha. Those are the most recent statistics.
I couldnt help but get into it the second someone mentioned Shoddy. :/
Also, I might be remembering wrong, but I think Scizor had gotten as high as like 33% at one point.
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Scizor only reached such a high usage % due to the OU Tier being centralized around latias, mence, and rotom-a. Scizor pursuit traps rotom and latias and checks mence after SR and one turn of LO recoil. If he wasn't able to check so many prominent threats his usage would be very low as he has a lot of hard counters who use him as easy setup bait.
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On June 28 2010 10:20 Izlude wrote:
Scizor only reached such a high usage % due to the OU Tier being centralized around latias, mence, and rotom-a. Scizor pursuit traps rotom and latias and checks mence after SR and one turn of LO recoil. If he wasn't able to check so many prominent threats his usage would be very low as he has a lot of hard counters who use him as easy setup bait.
Well yeah. Its not like he was really a monster. He just is really useful vs so many other top guys.
And I realized we're starting to shit up the thread, I'll stop. 
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I got a shiny Dratini in Pokemon Red and it was the best day of my life.
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On June 28 2010 08:10 Empyrean wrote:Why aren't you suggesting Shoddy Battle? Also, to the OP, you should seriously consider just spending three hours one afternoon and learn how to abuse the random number generator. It's not that difficult, but if you get unlucky with frames/seeds, sometimes it can be slightly aggravating.
It's the new battle simulator and many people on shoddy are moving over to it. Give it a try, maybe we can battle too.
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On June 28 2010 10:20 Izlude wrote:
Scizor only reached such a high usage % due to the OU Tier being centralized around latias, mence, and rotom-a. Scizor pursuit traps rotom and latias and checks mence after SR and one turn of LO recoil. If he wasn't able to check so many prominent threats his usage would be very low as he has a lot of hard counters who use him as easy setup bait.
My apologies if I'm wrong since I haven't played in a long time.
I thought it was rather difficult to setup on a CB Scizor (which was his most useful set if I recall) due to using U-Turn frequently? Scizor would check and threaten the aforementioned pokemon and others but would U-Turn anticipating a switch (of course, this didn't happen all the time). This would often put a reasonable dent in the new pokemon and give you all the time in the world to choose your next one already seeing your opponent's hand. If you're faster and they didn't switch, you may be able to send in a new pokemon against the predicted attack against Scizor. And if you're slower... I don't know why you would stay in on say... a predicted flamethrower from mixmence.
I though the skilled players didn't choice lock themselves until they had better knowledge of their opponent's team or desperately needed to KO a counter to another pokemon?
Also, wouldn't a team using Scizor should have another pokemon that has good synergy with it in order to check those hard counters?
Edit: Yes, we're derailing this thread. I'll also stop. =(
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I've caught a shiny Drowsy with the pokerus once. I did a fist-pump.
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On June 28 2010 10:42 NightFury wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2010 10:20 Izlude wrote:
Scizor only reached such a high usage % due to the OU Tier being centralized around latias, mence, and rotom-a. Scizor pursuit traps rotom and latias and checks mence after SR and one turn of LO recoil. If he wasn't able to check so many prominent threats his usage would be very low as he has a lot of hard counters who use him as easy setup bait. My apologies if I'm wrong since I haven't played in a long time. I thought it was rather difficult to setup on a CB Scizor (which was his most useful set if I recall) due to using U-Turn frequently? Scizor would check and threaten the aforementioned pokemon and others but would U-Turn anticipating a switch (of course, this didn't happen all the time). This would often put a reasonable dent in the new pokemon and give you all the time in the world to choose your next one already seeing your opponent's hand. If you're faster and they didn't switch, you may be able to send in a new pokemon against the predicted attack against Scizor. And if you're slower... I don't know why you would stay in on say... a predicted flamethrower from mixmence. I though the skilled players didn't choice lock themselves until they had better knowledge of their opponent's team or desperately needed to KO a counter to another pokemon? Also, wouldn't a team using Scizor should have another pokemon that has good synergy with it in order to check those hard counters? Edit: Yes, we're derailing this thread. I'll also stop. =(
Make a TL shoddy battle thread! Draw out all the other competitive pokemans hiding on TL
It's an e-sports site, there's bound to be others!
p.s. since I just started, every team with blissey in it rips me a new asshole 
she's such a fucking OP special wall I have no idea what to do lmao (i know what to do, predicting it is another issue, especially when they switch in a gen4 pokemon and i dont even know what its types are lol). Stuff like stealth rock also trips me up, when did they come up with that shit? so much has changed!
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On June 28 2010 11:02 hi19hi19 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2010 10:42 NightFury wrote:On June 28 2010 10:20 Izlude wrote:
Scizor only reached such a high usage % due to the OU Tier being centralized around latias, mence, and rotom-a. Scizor pursuit traps rotom and latias and checks mence after SR and one turn of LO recoil. If he wasn't able to check so many prominent threats his usage would be very low as he has a lot of hard counters who use him as easy setup bait. My apologies if I'm wrong since I haven't played in a long time. I thought it was rather difficult to setup on a CB Scizor (which was his most useful set if I recall) due to using U-Turn frequently? Scizor would check and threaten the aforementioned pokemon and others but would U-Turn anticipating a switch (of course, this didn't happen all the time). This would often put a reasonable dent in the new pokemon and give you all the time in the world to choose your next one already seeing your opponent's hand. If you're faster and they didn't switch, you may be able to send in a new pokemon against the predicted attack against Scizor. And if you're slower... I don't know why you would stay in on say... a predicted flamethrower from mixmence. I though the skilled players didn't choice lock themselves until they had better knowledge of their opponent's team or desperately needed to KO a counter to another pokemon? Also, wouldn't a team using Scizor should have another pokemon that has good synergy with it in order to check those hard counters? Edit: Yes, we're derailing this thread. I'll also stop. =( Make a TL shoddy battle thread! Draw out all the other competitive pokemans hiding on TL It's an e-sports site, there's bound to be others! p.s. since I just started, every team with blissey in it rips me a new asshole she's such a fucking OP special wall I have no idea what to do lmao (i know what to do, predicting it is another issue, especially when they switch in a gen4 pokemon and i dont even know what its types are lol). Stuff like stealth rock also trips me up, when did they come up with that shit? so much has changed!
I'd say Blissey in DPP is much less threatening than it was in RSE. Lots of mixed attackers can deal with Blissey quite summarily.
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what makes blissey so imba?
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Walls almost anything and statuses them (toxic or twave) and then usually 3HKOS them with seismic toss.
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I randomly caught a shiny onix in victory road back in my fire red once (I think). I now have a golden steelix named GOLDIX (!). Imagination triumphs over all right? ^^
EDIT: didn't realize it had turned to competitive pokemon by the time I posted :<
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