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Papua New Guinea152 Posts
hey!! I haven't made a blog in more than a month, just because I haven't had too much to talk about. But finally I seem to have started digging myself out of my self-inflicted holes, and so here I am today.
This post is going to be about a topic which gets a lot of attention on TL: girls and love.
So, to start off, I finished my junior (3rd year of college) and am getting ready for my senior year and the real world. But the past 3 years have been hectic. I got bad grades throughout my college years, and at one point was close to being dismissed because of my poor gpa. I took a summer course to remediate myself this summer, and am about to get an A in the class, which would bring up my average to over a 2.0 (I know, absolutely terrible). But all seems to be alright again. I finally seem to have developed good study habits and concentration but, most importantly, I seem to have conjured up a state of peace of mind and self-worth. And it all started with a girl.
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Rewind to September 1999. First day of 5th grade. Luckily for me all my best friends were in the same class as me. All was perfect.
Then something caught my eye. While the teacher was taking role call that morning, a girl walked in late, saying she missed the bus and her dad had to drop her off. I will never forget that day. The sun shone so brightly in the mid-autumn morning sky, the dewdrops on the grass seemed more vibrant, everything was more colorful than before.
This girl (let's call her Katie) took over my consciousness. Even when I was with friends I would constantly think about her. Now I know some people would say that a 5th grader wouldn't even know the first thing about love, but I was deeply enamored by her innumerable charms.
She lived in the development across the street from me. My family used to live in an apartment, and her family was living across the street in a single family house. I remember taking long showers at night gazing absentmindedly through the bathroom window, peering out into the cold heavenly darkness, knowing the love of my life was somewhere in that abyss.
But I never worked up the courage to talk to her. Indeed, it seemed like I was invisible to her. She talked with many boys but never with me.
When 5th grade ended, my family had to move to another state because my dad got a job someplace else. I started middle school in another state but there was always with emptiness in the pit of my stomach. I did well in school, had a lot of friends, and was generally happy, but missed Katie so much.
We came back to our old neighborhood at the start of 7th grade, and I saw Katie again, walking out of math class. Hardly anyone I knew back then was talking about girls, so I thought maybe I was weird or something. But after that brief encounter I never saw her again. Middle school is a big leap forward from elementary school, and since everything was so spread apart and chaotic, I got to see less and less of her. Fortunately, I started crushing on a girl in my class (let's call her Vicki). At the time, I thought my feelings for Vicki were genuine, and it seemed to me she actually acknowledged my presence. But middle school is exactly that...when I was in middle school I felt like every day was spring, love was always in the air.
At the end of 7th grade my family had to move again, this time not out of state but far enough that I couldn't see my old friends again except in the summer. 8th grade was relatively uneventful: I had my eye on a lot of girls, and I got good grades.
High school. Long story short...I wish I had spent more time studying in high school instead of goofing off. I barely got into the college of my choice, since my gpa was around 2.6, but my SAT score of 1940 was supposedly higher than average for the students at that college. I finally worked past a lot of my shyness (especially around girls) and became more of a funny guy and started to focus on small talk when hitting off with girls. I became just not caring about anything or anyone and walking my own road...the road I thought would make me happy. I didn't exactly date anyone but I was friends with a lot of girls. But still...still...there was an empty feeling inside.
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Fast forward: May 2010. A few days before the end of my junior year of college I saw Katie again, and I couldn't believe it!! I hadn't seen in her over 10 years, but I immediately recognized her in the split second I saw of her. I didn't even know she was in the same college as me. Anyway, I thought about talking to her, but I figured it would just be too weird. There was no way I could project my longings and desire for her in a way that wouldn't come off as creepy, and on top of that she barely knew who I was anyway (lol).
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Mood: a little conflicted. She practically turned my life around. After seeing her, I knew what I had to do...I had to get my act together and prepare myself for the real world. I turned myself around completely, promised to do well in the summer session so I wouldn't get kicked out of college, stopped drinking for the time being, and generally tried to improve myself. And it all started with a girl.
 
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If it's meant to be, then it will eventually happen. I dont know man, destiny seems like it's trying to tell you something.
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That was a nice read. But you should probably think of a way to talk to her if you can.
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Should've talked to her. It's not creepy or weird. Well, maybe just a tiny bit, as long as you don't come on too strong/seriously pushing for sex.
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Just approach her the next time you see her and strike up some small talk, then offer to catch up over some coffee sometime or something.
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Braavos36390 Posts
let me get this straight, you saw a girl you knew in 5th grade, passed up a perfect opportunity with a bulletproof approach line (omg we knew each other from elementary school!) because you were "scared you might come off creepy"?
to be blunt, judging by the obsessiveness of your post and that end part where you talk about seeing her changing your entire outlook on life... you probably didn't have a good chance here. you'd probably fail with Kate or whatever. but the next time you talk to a girl, you'll fail a little less. and the next time, a little less. and eventually, you'll succeed. that's the worst case scenario here. the best case scenario is theres a 1% chance she remembers and loves you despite your crappy attitude.
i'd say its a no-brainer to talk to her, if only to get experience talking to girls. approaching girls takes practice. you had the perfect lead in line too, wth. not approaching her or other girls only defers your failure for later. you need to fail now. FAIL NOW. with as many girls as you can fail with. you don't want to be 35 and trying to muster up the courage to ask out a girl.
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That was very poetic, definitely my type of style of writing (maybe that's why I like it haha).
Reminds me of my grade 6 crush, she went to a different school and 4 years later reappeared. I went out with her for a while, but found out that she was no longer the person I remember her to be - she became a person who believed in "overlapping relationships", if you know what I mean. We broke it after that cause I knew she was seeing another guy. What can you do, no regrets haha.
My advice, talk to her, find a way. Closure would be the word for this situation. Better to live knowing what happened instead of living with the thoughts of what-if.
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Talk to her  Rinrun is right. Better to know what happened and not what if. Plus you never know. Maybe she thought you were a cute guy in 5th grade and was thinking about you just as much as you were her :O Worth a shot at least ^_^ but if you don't talk to her, and she ends up in a class with you next year... dude seriously talk to her then ^_^
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On June 28 2010 03:01 rbkl wrote:
If it's meant to be, then it will eventually happen. I dont know man, destiny seems like it's trying to tell you something.
...things happen, it's not destiny.
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Girls are like iccup, at first you get raped over and over again, but eventually you get good enough to win more than you lose, and better opponents = better girls.
It's always good to get a game with the pro Koreans at the start of the ladder, even if you get raped, its a good experience.
This girl Katie is like the protoss you played against that taught you how to dt rush, that taught you how to reaver shuttle micro, that taught you how to 2base carriers.
This girl taught you how to be a winner, and you owe it to her to play one last game with her before you lose that chance forever! Go get her man!
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On June 28 2010 04:34 jodogohoo wrote:
Girls are like iccup, at first you get raped over and over again, but eventually you get good enough to win more than you lose, and better opponents = better girls.
It's always good to get a game with the pro Koreans at the start of the ladder, even if you get raped, its a good experience.
This girl Katie is like the protoss you played against that taught you how to dt rush, that taught you how to reaver shuttle micro, that taught you how to 2base carriers.
This girl taught you how to be a winner, and you owe it to her to play one last game with her before you lose that chance forever! Go get her man!
loooool. best read EVAR!
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If you dont talk to her im going to hit you in the face
DO IT
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On June 28 2010 05:22 arb wrote:
If you dont talk to her im going to hit you in the face
DO IT
Indeed, make it happen mr! Otherwise you might spend quite a few years wondering what would have been.
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Just don't expect too much out of your interactions, and you'll be in a good mindset.
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nice shoe , wanna fuck ? ask her
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get other girls in your life. see if she's still worth it then. if she is, go nail her
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On June 28 2010 03:01 rbkl wrote:
If it's meant to be, then it will eventually happen. I dont know man, destiny seems like it's trying to tell you something.
Lol you're a funny one. I'm just not going to do shit and wait for my destiny girl to come into my life. Yeah, that sounds like a reasonable plan to me.
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On June 28 2010 06:59 TaaiJoeng wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2010 03:01 rbkl wrote:
If it's meant to be, then it will eventually happen. I dont know man, destiny seems like it's trying to tell you something. Lol you're a funny one. I'm just not going to do shit and wait for my destiny girl to come into my life. Yeah, that sounds like a reasonable plan to me.
who nows, a random chick might just trip and land on your penis.
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Hi i'm _____, i find you pretty/attractive/sexy (w.e) wanna go out some time?
Don't want to come off as creepy come in blind and make her remember you, not the whole "hey i know you" crap unless you're good with words where you can make creepy come off as flattering, cold and direct is always the way. The Past is past don't bring shit up unless she brings it up then you can reminisce.
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Austin10833 Posts
On June 28 2010 08:04 semantics wrote:
Hi i'm _____, i find you pretty/attractive/sexy (w.e) wanna go out some time?
Don't want to come off as creepy come in blind and make her remember you, not the whole "hey i know you" crap unless you're good with words where you can make creepy come off as flattering, cold and direct is always the way. The Past is past don't bring shit up unless she brings it up then you can reminisce.
Ok, so you have two options here.
1) You can go with the opening so big you could pilot an aircraft carrier through it and make use of the fact that you two already know each other.
2) Go with semantic's advice above. If you do, I'd suggest some carefully planned details to ensure an optimal experience. Make sure you're wearing sunglasses, even if it's at night. You can take them off mid sentence to let her see your eyes moving up and down her body so that's she's fully aware of your visual assessment of her figure. (side note: feel free to let her know with visual cues how you've judged her appearance. Subtle suggestions of "I guess you'll do" will wear down her confidence and make her more pliable)
Also, while you wait for her to respond to your suggestion, scan the room for more attractive girls. This has two benefits. First, maybe you see someone hotter and you can ditch Brunhilda here, and second and more importantly, you let her know she's not the only ship on your horizon. You're a mover, a shaker, and if she wants to play ball she's gotta step her game up. None of this "I didn't feel like wearing makeup today," bullshit.
When you're talking to her, make sure to point a lot, even if you're really close. That finger symbolizes domination, so definitely feel free to prod or poke her a bit with your pointing finger if she's not responding fast enough or in a manner you would like.
If she says no to you after you've put in that much effort, she's probably just a grungy dumb slut, and you should let her know that.
Option extras include: hairgel (extra firm hold), chewing tobacco, leather wrist strap (i dont know what these are called), tight black wifebeater, lots of armani cologne.
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On June 28 2010 08:32 BroOd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2010 08:04 semantics wrote:
Hi i'm _____, i find you pretty/attractive/sexy (w.e) wanna go out some time?
Don't want to come off as creepy come in blind and make her remember you, not the whole "hey i know you" crap unless you're good with words where you can make creepy come off as flattering, cold and direct is always the way. The Past is past don't bring shit up unless she brings it up then you can reminisce. Ok, so you have one option here. 1) SUIT UP
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I want to give some advise, but I am fail at these kind of things too so . It is hard for me to give.
I used to think I am different from other people, but after reading so many blogs like yours I've realised actually every1 been through the same thing as me kekekeke. Or maybe almost the same thing.
I just want to tell you I've been failing @ relationship because I am very shy and tend to think too much and ask so many advise from the internet. I ask from my msn friends, they all tell me the guy don't love me, and I actually believed it 
I mean, u are grown up so just make good decision hehe. Even if it doesn't turn out the right way. Ah just do it kekeke. And make it simple.
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I was in a situation somewhat similar to yours, not exactly the same but here's my advice for what it's worth:
+ Show Spoiler +If you really think about this girl this much, after this long, without ever really getting to know her, you need to talk to her
if you talk to her,
worst case scenario: she's not interested, you learn and move on
if you don't talk to her,
worst case scenario: you'll never be able to entirely move on and regret it forever
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Dude, your obsessed with a chick that you never talked to from 5th grade....thats like serial killer in the making kinda shit
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I believe in you man! You can do it! Clean up your act and get the girl :D
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On June 28 2010 08:32 BroOd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2010 08:04 semantics wrote:
Hi i'm _____, i find you pretty/attractive/sexy (w.e) wanna go out some time?
Don't want to come off as creepy come in blind and make her remember you, not the whole "hey i know you" crap unless you're good with words where you can make creepy come off as flattering, cold and direct is always the way. The Past is past don't bring shit up unless she brings it up then you can reminisce. Ok, so you have two options here. 1) You can go with the opening so big you could pilot an aircraft carrier through it and make use of the fact that you two already know each other. 2) Go with semantic's advice above. If you do, I'd suggest some carefully planned details to ensure an optimal experience. Make sure you're wearing sunglasses, even if it's at night. You can take them off mid sentence to let her see your eyes moving up and down her body so that's she's fully aware of your visual assessment of her figure. (side note: feel free to let her know with visual cues how you've judged her appearance. Subtle suggestions of "I guess you'll do" will wear down her confidence and make her more pliable) Also, while you wait for her to respond to your suggestion, scan the room for more attractive girls. This has two benefits. First, maybe you see someone hotter and you can ditch Brunhilda here, and second and more importantly, you let her know she's not the only ship on your horizon. You're a mover, a shaker, and if she wants to play ball she's gotta step her game up. None of this "I didn't feel like wearing makeup today," bullshit. When you're talking to her, make sure to point a lot, even if you're really close. That finger symbolizes domination, so definitely feel free to prod or poke her a bit with your pointing finger if she's not responding fast enough or in a manner you would like. If she says no to you after you've put in that much effort, she's probably just a grungy dumb slut, and you should let her know that. Option extras include: hairgel (extra firm hold), chewing tobacco, leather wrist strap (i dont know what these are called), tight black wifebeater, lots of armani cologne.
haha that assumes she remembers him as clear as day as he does, hey my approach is how i asked out all my girlfriends it's how i asked out my girlfirend i've currently been dating for 4 years now. Call a girl pretty look her in her eyes and ask her out for lunch or w.e it's not that complex no need to overthink and crap things up.
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On June 28 2010 09:37 semantics wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2010 08:32 BroOd wrote:On June 28 2010 08:04 semantics wrote:
Hi i'm _____, i find you pretty/attractive/sexy (w.e) wanna go out some time?
Don't want to come off as creepy come in blind and make her remember you, not the whole "hey i know you" crap unless you're good with words where you can make creepy come off as flattering, cold and direct is always the way. The Past is past don't bring shit up unless she brings it up then you can reminisce. Ok, so you have two options here. 1) You can go with the opening so big you could pilot an aircraft carrier through it and make use of the fact that you two already know each other. 2) Go with semantic's advice above. If you do, I'd suggest some carefully planned details to ensure an optimal experience. Make sure you're wearing sunglasses, even if it's at night. You can take them off mid sentence to let her see your eyes moving up and down her body so that's she's fully aware of your visual assessment of her figure. (side note: feel free to let her know with visual cues how you've judged her appearance. Subtle suggestions of "I guess you'll do" will wear down her confidence and make her more pliable) Also, while you wait for her to respond to your suggestion, scan the room for more attractive girls. This has two benefits. First, maybe you see someone hotter and you can ditch Brunhilda here, and second and more importantly, you let her know she's not the only ship on your horizon. You're a mover, a shaker, and if she wants to play ball she's gotta step her game up. None of this "I didn't feel like wearing makeup today," bullshit. When you're talking to her, make sure to point a lot, even if you're really close. That finger symbolizes domination, so definitely feel free to prod or poke her a bit with your pointing finger if she's not responding fast enough or in a manner you would like. If she says no to you after you've put in that much effort, she's probably just a grungy dumb slut, and you should let her know that. Option extras include: hairgel (extra firm hold), chewing tobacco, leather wrist strap (i dont know what these are called), tight black wifebeater, lots of armani cologne. haha that assumes she remembers him as clear as day as he does, hey my approach is how i asked out all my girlfriends it's how i asked out my girlfirend i've currently been dating for 4 years now. Call a girl pretty look her in her eyes and ask her out for lunch or w.e it's not that complex no need to overthink and crap things up.
might as well mineral hack / maphack if your going to be pull that type of shit, cheesing every game, rushing for dark templars is only going to work against noobs
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On June 28 2010 11:05 jodogohoo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2010 09:37 semantics wrote:On June 28 2010 08:32 BroOd wrote:On June 28 2010 08:04 semantics wrote:
Hi i'm _____, i find you pretty/attractive/sexy (w.e) wanna go out some time?
Don't want to come off as creepy come in blind and make her remember you, not the whole "hey i know you" crap unless you're good with words where you can make creepy come off as flattering, cold and direct is always the way. The Past is past don't bring shit up unless she brings it up then you can reminisce. Ok, so you have two options here. 1) You can go with the opening so big you could pilot an aircraft carrier through it and make use of the fact that you two already know each other. 2) Go with semantic's advice above. If you do, I'd suggest some carefully planned details to ensure an optimal experience. Make sure you're wearing sunglasses, even if it's at night. You can take them off mid sentence to let her see your eyes moving up and down her body so that's she's fully aware of your visual assessment of her figure. (side note: feel free to let her know with visual cues how you've judged her appearance. Subtle suggestions of "I guess you'll do" will wear down her confidence and make her more pliable) Also, while you wait for her to respond to your suggestion, scan the room for more attractive girls. This has two benefits. First, maybe you see someone hotter and you can ditch Brunhilda here, and second and more importantly, you let her know she's not the only ship on your horizon. You're a mover, a shaker, and if she wants to play ball she's gotta step her game up. None of this "I didn't feel like wearing makeup today," bullshit. When you're talking to her, make sure to point a lot, even if you're really close. That finger symbolizes domination, so definitely feel free to prod or poke her a bit with your pointing finger if she's not responding fast enough or in a manner you would like. If she says no to you after you've put in that much effort, she's probably just a grungy dumb slut, and you should let her know that. Option extras include: hairgel (extra firm hold), chewing tobacco, leather wrist strap (i dont know what these are called), tight black wifebeater, lots of armani cologne. haha that assumes she remembers him as clear as day as he does, hey my approach is how i asked out all my girlfriends it's how i asked out my girlfirend i've currently been dating for 4 years now. Call a girl pretty look her in her eyes and ask her out for lunch or w.e it's not that complex no need to overthink and crap things up. might as well mineral hack / maphack if your going to be pull that type of shit, cheesing every game, rushing for dark templars is only going to work against noobs
winning is winning, all i know is that at the end of the day i'm not butt hurt.
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United States4796 Posts
Talk to her. Be yourself. Don't be an asshole.
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On June 28 2010 09:37 semantics wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2010 08:32 BroOd wrote:On June 28 2010 08:04 semantics wrote:
Hi i'm _____, i find you pretty/attractive/sexy (w.e) wanna go out some time?
Don't want to come off as creepy come in blind and make her remember you, not the whole "hey i know you" crap unless you're good with words where you can make creepy come off as flattering, cold and direct is always the way. The Past is past don't bring shit up unless she brings it up then you can reminisce. Ok, so you have two options here. 1) You can go with the opening so big you could pilot an aircraft carrier through it and make use of the fact that you two already know each other. 2) Go with semantic's advice above. If you do, I'd suggest some carefully planned details to ensure an optimal experience. Make sure you're wearing sunglasses, even if it's at night. You can take them off mid sentence to let her see your eyes moving up and down her body so that's she's fully aware of your visual assessment of her figure. (side note: feel free to let her know with visual cues how you've judged her appearance. Subtle suggestions of "I guess you'll do" will wear down her confidence and make her more pliable) Also, while you wait for her to respond to your suggestion, scan the room for more attractive girls. This has two benefits. First, maybe you see someone hotter and you can ditch Brunhilda here, and second and more importantly, you let her know she's not the only ship on your horizon. You're a mover, a shaker, and if she wants to play ball she's gotta step her game up. None of this "I didn't feel like wearing makeup today," bullshit. When you're talking to her, make sure to point a lot, even if you're really close. That finger symbolizes domination, so definitely feel free to prod or poke her a bit with your pointing finger if she's not responding fast enough or in a manner you would like. If she says no to you after you've put in that much effort, she's probably just a grungy dumb slut, and you should let her know that. Option extras include: hairgel (extra firm hold), chewing tobacco, leather wrist strap (i dont know what these are called), tight black wifebeater, lots of armani cologne. haha that assumes she remembers him as clear as day as he does, hey my approach is how i asked out all my girlfriends it's how i asked out my girlfirend i've currently been dating for 4 years now. Call a girl pretty look her in her eyes and ask her out for lunch or w.e it's not that complex no need to overthink and crap things up.
I remember everyone from my 5th grade class (well, almost everyone). The chances aren't that slim she would remember him. And in the off chance she doesn't remember, it's not an unrecoverable situation. Just don't be like "ohhh well I was totally in love with you and..." because that would be pretty creepy.
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She's an ideal and you dont really care about her.
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This is like the story of my life, except I have been searching for "that girl from 5th grade" everywhere (including Facebook) and still no sight of her.
- She is probably no longer the girl you know 10 years ago anymore (come on it's TEN years).
- From your post it seems like you probably will fail.
I'm not saying you should stalk her, but try to know more about her WITHOUT talking directly to her. If she's still that girl of 10 years ago or even better, then go practice with other girls, fail as much as you can (like Hot_Bid said) and come back to her fully prepared. Losing in practice doesn't matter, as long as you win the tournament games.
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On June 28 2010 12:43 ella_guru wrote:
She's an ideal and you dont really care about her.
+1
You've placed her on a pedestal. She's no where as amazing as you think she is. Don't date her cuz then you'll force yourself to realize the awful truth of the world.
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On June 28 2010 04:16 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2010 03:01 rbkl wrote:
If it's meant to be, then it will eventually happen. I dont know man, destiny seems like it's trying to tell you something. ...things happen, it's not destiny.
...destiny happens, it's not just things.
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On June 28 2010 13:15 TunaFishyMe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2010 12:43 ella_guru wrote:
She's an ideal and you dont really care about her. +1 You've placed her on a pedestal. She's no where as amazing as you think she is. Don't date her cuz then you'll force yourself to realize the awful truth of the world.
Only leads to pain.
Props to the starcraft analogy perfect.
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On June 28 2010 12:43 ella_guru wrote:
She's an ideal and you dont really care about her.
That sounds like the plot to a movie -.- But true.
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do it. it's foolproof, you already know her.
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I don't know. You are just now starting to get your life straightened up. You're doing better in school. You know what you need to do instead of what you want to do, or so I am guessing. What's going to happen if she does recognize you, and then you two become serious? Did your previous relationships get in the way of your studies? Your classes?
You don't know her. What if she's a party girl who doesn't study and makes bad grades? Will you follow her in that same path that you had been crawling out of these past few months? You think she's willing to change her lifestyle for you?
I hate to act like a pessimist, but I keep getting this image that you only see her in a aura of all that is good. Question Everything.
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On June 28 2010 13:19 JohannesH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2010 04:16 Djzapz wrote:On June 28 2010 03:01 rbkl wrote:
If it's meant to be, then it will eventually happen. I dont know man, destiny seems like it's trying to tell you something. ...things happen, it's not destiny. ...destiny happens, it's not just things.
In Hollywood's Romantic Comedies, maybe...
In real life, it's just things.
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On June 28 2010 13:15 TunaFishyMe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2010 12:43 ella_guru wrote:
She's an ideal and you dont really care about her. +1 You've placed her on a pedestal. She's no where as amazing as you think she is. Don't date her cuz then you'll force yourself to realize the awful truth of the world.
One could realize the "aweful truth" that they formed an ideal through some girl built up around infatuation and fantasy. But what comes next is realizing that it was you who turned yourself around, not her.
To OP: You should definetely talk to her. Just be yourself, even if it's absolutely terrifying. And honestly, I think you should tell her what she's done for you. Learning something like this can be really flattering and make her feel great. Learning that she caused that much inspiration would, in the very least, totally make her day!
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You barely know Katie. The person you knew in middleschool has changed greatly over time, and surely so have you. It's natural to do so, it comes with growing up. You are not in love with here or anything, you just have a crush that is highlighted by the nostalgia of your childhood. It's an illusion, you've fallen for the image of a perfect girl that you just projected on Katie in the past.
You have now grown, and you can see this for yourself. If you do not drastically change your state of mind, any kind of relationship with Katie is doomed to fail. I tell you this from personal experience. If you still want to approach her you have to basically change your whole attitude towards her, and treat her like someone you don't know at all, and get to know her, for real this time.
And again, from personal experience, you have a 99% chance of failure, sadly. That's how it was for me, surely we're different persons, but I'm just saying. It's good that the thought of her can give you motivation, however it would be infinitely healthier and more productive if you forget about her and channel your energy into a real relationship, with a new girl that you will learn to genuinely appreciate for what she really is.
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On June 28 2010 09:06 GGTeMpLaR wrote:I was in a situation somewhat similar to yours, not exactly the same but here's my advice for what it's worth: + Show Spoiler +If you really think about this girl this much, after this long, without ever really getting to know her, you need to talk to her
if you talk to her,
worst case scenario: she's not interested, you learn and move on
if you don't talk to her,
worst case scenario: you'll never be able to entirely move on and regret it forever
This is exactly the kind of advice I consider highly misleading, no offence.
If a relationship with her happens and you keep this OMG she's a goddess attitude you're bound to fail.
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Prepare yourself for failure, and then go in, that way you won't be a mess, and if she says yes then it's all good. As long as your prepared for it mentally you just need to muster up the balls and talk to her seriously. Although personally i had a bad experience with a similar thing. I knew a girl when i was growing up, and around about from ages 4-6 we were "going out" (of course to young to understand what that meant) but my dad and her mum were best friends from school and we were in the same class at school so we see each other a lot. I changed schools and moved away. Anyways when i was 18 i was invited to her mum's birthday, it was 40th or something, and i saw this girl there, and she literally didn't remember me at all, her mum was quite shocked as well, and it was so awkward. What I'm saying is don't be like me and assume she will remember you, just prepare for a fail and take it in your stride and go for it, have no regrets, i mean your an adult now right? stop acting like a 15 year old pussy and more like a baller! good luck
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