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OK so I've been playing brood war on ICCUP again and I've actually been playing well this time.
I've beaten a few pretty good players but I've also lost to a few bad players...
I just played this PvT vs what appears to be a very good korean terran, I think it was my best PvT so far as the guy played a really annoying style and I think I did well against it the game is about 30 minutes long but the last 5 minutes is him being bad manner -_-;; It's the first replay on the list.
My APM has risen a lot since my last comeback and it's around 220-240 now for shorter games. Longer games around 190 or 200 I think.
http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
-SaddleS American (ghetto style) Protoss
Edit: to add some more reps
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=34258 PvT vs NateChild 32-12 C- (best player I've played I think)
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=34256 PvZ vs LostChild 51-13 C+
 
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ugh sorry for using MegaUpload it was the first one I thought of does anyone know a good site to upload BW replays to?
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
If a lot of your games are short, does that mean that you're still often 2 gating vs Z?
EDIT: repdepot is probably the best place to upload reps.
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Cant beat repdepot.net for hosting bw reps, thats what the site is for 
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On April 11 2010 14:27 Bibbit wrote:Cant beat repdepot.net for hosting bw reps, thats what the site is for
thank you I had forgotten about that site but will be using it now!!
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Austin10833 Posts
Can you host some replays of a nice colossus rush?
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On April 11 2010 14:29 BroOd wrote:
Can you host some replays of a nice colossus rush?
That would definitely be impressive as hell if you could pull that off in bw.
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[QUOTE]On April 11 2010 14:26 motbob wrote:
If a lot of your games are short, does that mean that you're still often 2 gating vs Z?
Yah I am -_-;;; but really it's just to get through the lower ranks faster, my main PvZ is definitely based on FE.
A lot of these zergs don't practice early game ling/drone micro and just get crushed by someone who can micro their zealots correctly... I've gone like 15-3 using 2 gate PvZ and have beaten some pretty good zergs with it..
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
BTW please keep playing, don't get to 50% win ratio and then give up, try to get the highest rank you can. It's frustrating to see every single iccup account of yours at like 25-5 where it's clear that you just didn't feel like trying to beat C+ Koreans. I assume you really do want to improve your game.
GL
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[QUOTE]On April 11 2010 14:32 JoeSaddles wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 11 2010 14:26 motbob wrote:
If a lot of your games are short, does that mean that you're still often 2 gating vs Z?
Yah I am -_-;;; but really it's just to get through the lower ranks faster, my main PvZ is definitely based on FE.
A lot of these zergs don't practice early game ling/drone micro and just get crushed by someone who can micro their zealots correctly... I've gone like 15-3 using 2 gate PvZ and have beaten some pretty good zergs with it..
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It's even worse when I bunker rush. 80% of zergs can't react to it at all and just die within the first 5 minutes or are seriously crippled because of it.
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Austin10833 Posts
On April 11 2010 14:32 JoeSaddles wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2010 14:26 motbob wrote:
If a lot of your games are short, does that mean that you're still often 2 gating vs Z?
Yah I am -_-;;; but really it's just to get through the lower ranks faster, my main PvZ is definitely based on FE.
A lot of these zergs don't practice early game ling/drone micro and just get crushed by someone who can micro their zealots correctly... I've gone like 15-3 using 2 gate PvZ and have beaten some pretty good zergs with it..
15-3 is pretty impressive. When I play zvp my worst nightmare is when protoss players micro their zealots. I should really take your advice and practice my drone ling micro. How have you been faring at the B~ level?
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i've decided to go thru ur match list to determine how good ur opponents r and if u belong at ur rank
here r all 51 games:
+ Show Spoiler +(opponents recs)
1. LOSS vs C- (91-128)
2. LOSS vs D+ (16-11) - probably C-
3. WIN vs D+ (14-7) - probably C-
4. WIN vs D (13-28) - probably D-
5. WIN vs same guy
6. WIN vs same guy
7. WIN vs same guy
8. WIN vs same guy
9. WIN vs D (15-24) - probably D-
10. WIN vs D+ (24-29)
11. WIN vs D+ (24-25)
12. WIN vs D (2-2) - not enough data
13. LOSS vs C (45-20) - probably C+
14. WIN vs C- (61-20) - at first i thought this guy was probably C, but his match list is him beating on D's. like 25-0 vs D's at C- rank lol
15. WIN vs C- (23-14)
16. WIN vs D+ (18-13)
17. WIN vs D+ (16-10)
18. WIN vs C- (23-11)
19. WIN vs D (8-3) - probably D+
20. WIN vs D+ (17-7)
21. WIN vs D+ (22-29)
22. WIN vs D+ (22-20)
23. WIN vs D (22-51)
24. LOSS vs C- (25-15)
25. WIN vs D+ (12-3) - probably C-
26. WIN vs C- (50-32)
27. LOSS vs C- (63-50)
28. WIN vs C- (42-28)
29. WIN vs C- (44-39)
30. WIN vs C- (117-187)
31. LOSS vs C- (40-41)
32. WIN vs same guy
33. WIN vs C- (82-108)
34. WIN vs D+ (22-17) - probably C-
35. WIN vs D (57-105)
36. WIN vs same guy
37. LOSS vs C- (39-21) - probably C
38. LOSS vs C (62-59) - right between C-/C
39. WIN vs D+ (17-13)
40. WIN vs C (65-51) - right between C-/C
41. LOSS vs C- (83-115)
42. WIN vs D+ (36-29) - probably C-
43. WIN vs same guy
44. WIN vs C- (24-11)
45. LOSS vs C- (90-104)
46. WIN vs C (56-51) - right between C-/C
47. WIn vs C- (38-39)
48. WIN vs C- (92-103)
49. LOSS vs C+ (60-36)
50. WIN vs C (52-14) - nice win!
51. WIN vs C (193-232) - nice win!]
52. LOSS vs same guy
53. WIN vs C- (u posted his rep here)
first things first, the korean u beat in the rep u posted is prty good. he's 32-12 C- rank. his record breaks down to 24-6 vs D/D+ and 8-6 vs C-, so he's very likely solid C-.
for ur breakdown, i took into account players current/previous records and estimated what they should be based on their recs so theres no "omg hes actually B- but on a C- account" kind of whining (look at full breakdown)
ur breakdown:
6-0 vs D-
4-0 vs D
8-0 vs D+
16-7 vs C-
2-2 vs C
1-2 vs C+
judging from ur record, its pretty safe to say ur solid C, since ur .500 on it while easily winning most of ur games (16-7) vs C- players (like the guy whose rep u posted). congrats on getting C, not many ppl get up that high.
if u can stay .500 at C (only 2 wins vs C players) then u can show u "belong" there, its a great rank. i think with lots of practice u might be able to get to C+ even.
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On April 11 2010 14:27 Bibbit wrote:Cant beat repdepot.net for hosting bw reps, thats what the site is for
repdepot is niceee I just changed the original rep to there and added 2 more
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sick record, next foreign bonjwa?
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Ehh you're joking right? What are you trying to imply here hahaha
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plz delete me was going off false info
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On April 11 2010 15:17 KawaiiRice wrote:Ehh you're joking right? What are you trying to imply here hahaha
heres his profile http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/galford.html
he was 90-66 B+ season 13.
he got first place in an iccup C / B ranks tournament
he got first place in an iccup C- / C / C+ tournament
he got second place in another C-/ C/ C+ tourney
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On April 11 2010 15:20 JoeSaddles wrote:
although I agree with most of your breakdown you have to look at the records of the C- players I've won against, (a lot of them should be C) and the records of the 2 C+ players I lost to...
lost to 2 C+ players
60-36 (he's better than C+ for sure)
and 45-20 (probably also better than C+)
then if you look at my wins vs C- players, you will see that some of the records include 42-28, 24-11, 33-12, 23-14, and 50-32. I think it's safe to say those players probably belong at C rank instead of listing them as C- players.
Also the last thing is that you're counting the win vs at 52-14 player as C rank, when really he is at 4900 points and was C+ rank when I beat him.. he definitely belongs as a win vs C+.
other than those few things your analysis is good but I think I will prove to you that I'm better than a C player =p
i did take that into consideration, wtf?
the guys i listed at C- have .500 records or worse at C-. i listed a bunch of guys as C- who had good stats at D+. if ur winning half ur games at C, ur C. the 2 guys u played at C+ being better than C+ means nothing cuz u lost to them both.
if they win 50% of their games at C-, THEY ARE C-. there's no question about that, it doesn't matter if some1 goes 18-0 at D/D+ and 6-6 at C, oh wow 24-6 looks great but they r actually C-
like i said, ur 17-7 at C- and 2-2 at C, and 0-2 at C+. i don't see how u can possibly say ur "better than a C player" when u havent even proven that u belong at C yet
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didn't realize you checked their games also.. alright then the only thing that I disagree with is that LostChild should be considered C+
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