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JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 06:43:14
April 11 2010 05:23 GMT
#1
OK so I've been playing brood war on ICCUP again and I've actually been playing well this time.

I've beaten a few pretty good players but I've also lost to a few bad players...

I just played this PvT vs what appears to be a very good korean terran, I think it was my best PvT so far as the guy played a really annoying style and I think I did well against it the game is about 30 minutes long but the last 5 minutes is him being bad manner -_-;; It's the first replay on the list.

My APM has risen a lot since my last comeback and it's around 220-240 now for shorter games. Longer games around 190 or 200 I think.


http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html

-SaddleS American (ghetto style) Protoss

Edit: to add some more reps

http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=34258 PvT vs NateChild 32-12 C- (best player I've played I think)
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=34256 PvZ vs LostChild 51-13 C+


*
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
April 11 2010 05:24 GMT
#2
ugh sorry for using MegaUpload it was the first one I thought of does anyone know a good site to upload BW replays to?
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 05:26:49
April 11 2010 05:26 GMT
#3
If a lot of your games are short, does that mean that you're still often 2 gating vs Z?

EDIT: repdepot is probably the best place to upload reps.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
April 11 2010 05:27 GMT
#4
Cant beat repdepot.net for hosting bw reps, thats what the site is for
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 05:28:57
April 11 2010 05:28 GMT
#5
On April 11 2010 14:27 Bibbit wrote:
Cant beat repdepot.net for hosting bw reps, thats what the site is for


thank you I had forgotten about that site but will be using it now!!
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
April 11 2010 05:29 GMT
#6
Can you host some replays of a nice colossus rush?
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
April 11 2010 05:30 GMT
#7
On April 11 2010 14:29 BroOd wrote:
Can you host some replays of a nice colossus rush?


That would definitely be impressive as hell if you could pull that off in bw.
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
April 11 2010 05:32 GMT
#8
[QUOTE]On April 11 2010 14:26 motbob wrote:
If a lot of your games are short, does that mean that you're still often 2 gating vs Z?



Yah I am -_-;;; but really it's just to get through the lower ranks faster, my main PvZ is definitely based on FE.

A lot of these zergs don't practice early game ling/drone micro and just get crushed by someone who can micro their zealots correctly... I've gone like 15-3 using 2 gate PvZ and have beaten some pretty good zergs with it..

http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 05:33:55
April 11 2010 05:33 GMT
#9
BTW please keep playing, don't get to 50% win ratio and then give up, try to get the highest rank you can. It's frustrating to see every single iccup account of yours at like 25-5 where it's clear that you just didn't feel like trying to beat C+ Koreans. I assume you really do want to improve your game.

GL
ModeratorGood content always wins.
MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
April 11 2010 05:34 GMT
#10
[QUOTE]On April 11 2010 14:32 JoeSaddles wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 11 2010 14:26 motbob wrote:
If a lot of your games are short, does that mean that you're still often 2 gating vs Z?



Yah I am -_-;;; but really it's just to get through the lower ranks faster, my main PvZ is definitely based on FE.

A lot of these zergs don't practice early game ling/drone micro and just get crushed by someone who can micro their zealots correctly... I've gone like 15-3 using 2 gate PvZ and have beaten some pretty good zergs with it..

[/QUOTE]
It's even worse when I bunker rush. 80% of zergs can't react to it at all and just die within the first 5 minutes or are seriously crippled because of it.
We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 05:37:16
April 11 2010 05:36 GMT
#11
On April 11 2010 14:32 JoeSaddles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2010 14:26 motbob wrote:
If a lot of your games are short, does that mean that you're still often 2 gating vs Z?



Yah I am -_-;;; but really it's just to get through the lower ranks faster, my main PvZ is definitely based on FE.

A lot of these zergs don't practice early game ling/drone micro and just get crushed by someone who can micro their zealots correctly... I've gone like 15-3 using 2 gate PvZ and have beaten some pretty good zergs with it..




15-3 is pretty impressive. When I play zvp my worst nightmare is when protoss players micro their zealots. I should really take your advice and practice my drone ling micro. How have you been faring at the B~ level?
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 06:51:55
April 11 2010 05:36 GMT
#12
i've decided to go thru ur match list to determine how good ur opponents r and if u belong at ur rank

here r all 51 games:
+ Show Spoiler +
(opponents recs)

1. LOSS vs C- (91-128)
2. LOSS vs D+ (16-11) - probably C-
3. WIN vs D+ (14-7) - probably C-
4. WIN vs D (13-28) - probably D-
5. WIN vs same guy
6. WIN vs same guy
7. WIN vs same guy
8. WIN vs same guy
9. WIN vs D (15-24) - probably D-
10. WIN vs D+ (24-29)
11. WIN vs D+ (24-25)
12. WIN vs D (2-2) - not enough data
13. LOSS vs C (45-20) - probably C+
14. WIN vs C- (61-20) - at first i thought this guy was probably C, but his match list is him beating on D's. like 25-0 vs D's at C- rank lol
15. WIN vs C- (23-14)
16. WIN vs D+ (18-13)
17. WIN vs D+ (16-10)
18. WIN vs C- (23-11)
19. WIN vs D (8-3) - probably D+
20. WIN vs D+ (17-7)
21. WIN vs D+ (22-29)
22. WIN vs D+ (22-20)
23. WIN vs D (22-51)
24. LOSS vs C- (25-15)
25. WIN vs D+ (12-3) - probably C-
26. WIN vs C- (50-32)
27. LOSS vs C- (63-50)
28. WIN vs C- (42-28)
29. WIN vs C- (44-39)
30. WIN vs C- (117-187)
31. LOSS vs C- (40-41)
32. WIN vs same guy
33. WIN vs C- (82-108)
34. WIN vs D+ (22-17) - probably C-
35. WIN vs D (57-105)
36. WIN vs same guy
37. LOSS vs C- (39-21) - probably C
38. LOSS vs C (62-59) - right between C-/C
39. WIN vs D+ (17-13)
40. WIN vs C (65-51) - right between C-/C
41. LOSS vs C- (83-115)
42. WIN vs D+ (36-29) - probably C-
43. WIN vs same guy
44. WIN vs C- (24-11)
45. LOSS vs C- (90-104)
46. WIN vs C (56-51) - right between C-/C
47. WIn vs C- (38-39)
48. WIN vs C- (92-103)
49. LOSS vs C+ (60-36)
50. WIN vs C (52-14) - nice win!
51. WIN vs C (193-232) - nice win!]
52. LOSS vs same guy
53. WIN vs C- (u posted his rep here)


first things first, the korean u beat in the rep u posted is prty good. he's 32-12 C- rank. his record breaks down to 24-6 vs D/D+ and 8-6 vs C-, so he's very likely solid C-.

for ur breakdown, i took into account players current/previous records and estimated what they should be based on their recs so theres no "omg hes actually B- but on a C- account" kind of whining (look at full breakdown)

ur breakdown:
6-0 vs D-
4-0 vs D
8-0 vs D+
16-7 vs C-
2-2 vs C
1-2 vs C+

judging from ur record, its pretty safe to say ur solid C, since ur .500 on it while easily winning most of ur games (16-7) vs C- players (like the guy whose rep u posted). congrats on getting C, not many ppl get up that high.

if u can stay .500 at C (only 2 wins vs C players) then u can show u "belong" there, its a great rank. i think with lots of practice u might be able to get to C+ even.
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 05:40:15
April 11 2010 05:39 GMT
#13
On April 11 2010 14:27 Bibbit wrote:
Cant beat repdepot.net for hosting bw reps, thats what the site is for


repdepot is niceee I just changed the original rep to there and added 2 more
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7218 Posts
April 11 2010 06:01 GMT
#14
sick record, next foreign bonjwa?
Entusman #12
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
April 11 2010 06:17 GMT
#15
On April 11 2010 14:23 JoeSaddles wrote:
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=34257 PvP vs Galford 23-11 C-, he was B+ formerly and has won tournaments on iccup


Ehh you're joking right? What are you trying to imply here hahaha
@KawaiiRiceLighT
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 07:15:06
April 11 2010 06:20 GMT
#16
plz delete me was going off false info
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 06:25:24
April 11 2010 06:22 GMT
#17
On April 11 2010 15:17 KawaiiRice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2010 14:23 JoeSaddles wrote:
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=34257 PvP vs Galford 23-11 C-, he was B+ formerly and has won tournaments on iccup


Ehh you're joking right? What are you trying to imply here hahaha


heres his profile http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/galford.html

he was 90-66 B+ season 13.

he got first place in an iccup C / B ranks tournament
he got first place in an iccup C- / C / C+ tournament
he got second place in another C-/ C/ C+ tourney

http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 06:24:39
April 11 2010 06:24 GMT
#18
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 06:28:36
April 11 2010 06:25 GMT
#19
On April 11 2010 15:20 JoeSaddles wrote:
although I agree with most of your breakdown you have to look at the records of the C- players I've won against, (a lot of them should be C) and the records of the 2 C+ players I lost to...

lost to 2 C+ players
60-36 (he's better than C+ for sure)
and 45-20 (probably also better than C+)

then if you look at my wins vs C- players, you will see that some of the records include 42-28, 24-11, 33-12, 23-14, and 50-32. I think it's safe to say those players probably belong at C rank instead of listing them as C- players.

Also the last thing is that you're counting the win vs at 52-14 player as C rank, when really he is at 4900 points and was C+ rank when I beat him.. he definitely belongs as a win vs C+.

other than those few things your analysis is good but I think I will prove to you that I'm better than a C player =p

i did take that into consideration, wtf?

the guys i listed at C- have .500 records or worse at C-. i listed a bunch of guys as C- who had good stats at D+. if ur winning half ur games at C, ur C. the 2 guys u played at C+ being better than C+ means nothing cuz u lost to them both.

if they win 50% of their games at C-, THEY ARE C-. there's no question about that, it doesn't matter if some1 goes 18-0 at D/D+ and 6-6 at C, oh wow 24-6 looks great but they r actually C-

like i said, ur 17-7 at C- and 2-2 at C, and 0-2 at C+. i don't see how u can possibly say ur "better than a C player" when u havent even proven that u belong at C yet
JoeSaddles
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States344 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-11 06:48:24
April 11 2010 06:28 GMT
#20
didn't realize you checked their games also.. alright then the only thing that I disagree with is that LostChild should be considered C+
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/SaddleS.html
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