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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
February 20 2010 15:10 GMT
#81
GET THIS.. RIGHT... stalkers.. have 80 sheild.. and siege tanks hit for 60 damage in siege mode... right? ... and they only do 30damage to stalkers sheilds...OHH COMN BLIZZARD... seriously.. and like ... siege tanks are meant to do MORE DAMAGE to ARMOURED units... farr out, terran got the short straw ... and some of these maps are just so imba .. seriously. oh and make buildings with more +health... seriously. umm what else.... ohh yeah.. ghosts= way to much gas

ok get this scenario... you have to play PERFECT to win.. ready.. ok collosus, immortal, high temper vs siege tank, marine or maruader , and ghost... like seriously collosus rofl stomp freakn everything.... its just stupid. and ohh psi storm ontop of that... OHH AND WHAT IMMORTAL THAT HAS SO MUCH MORE HEALTH THAN EVERYTHING... COMN!!!!


please buff terran in tvp matchup somehow.. this is just getting gay. ohh and ontop of that... sensor towers.... dont detect? OHH seriously... give me a break.

what else.. OHH yeah my brother lost when he was 60+ population up to a zerg..... because of the stupid fflying things that kill ur units instantly and turn it into their little creep crap... like seriously. OHH and zergling= way to freakn fast.. even off creep way to fast,


uh..... supply depot blocking... doesnt work well ... why? because the time it takes for somne to break your block early game.. is about 1-2 seconds... and by then ur scv cant get their in time... its just imba. ohh and pylons build about 25% faster than supply depot? OP much?


um........ queen... man.... their larva spawn crap... geez much i say much more?


thats all for now... please do something about this...
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
February 20 2010 20:49 GMT
#82
HAHAHAHAHAHA

This has to be the 3248726th thread about roaches. My message is the same to all of you. Stop being noobs and crying balance. L2Scout and counter. I play random and have no problem stopping a roach rush with ANY race. Get more APM. Use your resources more wisely. Stop. Being. Bad.

http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23329343799&sid=5000

This guy is saying this in response to Artosis opening post about Roach imbalance. Artosis also mentions he is number 1 in the entire ladder. LOLOLOL.

Artosis LEARN 2 PLAY NOOB!

God I love these forums
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
February 21 2010 01:52 GMT
#83
On February 21 2010 05:49 zerglingsfolife wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Show nested quote +
This has to be the 3248726th thread about roaches. My message is the same to all of you. Stop being noobs and crying balance. L2Scout and counter. I play random and have no problem stopping a roach rush with ANY race. Get more APM. Use your resources more wisely. Stop. Being. Bad.

http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23329343799&sid=5000

This guy is saying this in response to Artosis opening post about Roach imbalance. Artosis also mentions he is number 1 in the entire ladder. LOLOLOL.

Artosis LEARN 2 PLAY NOOB!

God I love these forums


Blizzard need to filter out nutheads for the next wave, I cant stand this.
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Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-21 02:40:26
February 21 2010 02:37 GMT
#84
Theres this guys called lardbeetle... Read some of his threads:

http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23329344136&sid=5000
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23329344145&sid=5000

...Hes so bad. He complains that hes not good at the game, and the people that "Dream about marine on zergling action" keep beating him because they "rush" every game. I'm so rage right now.


Edit: eguguhguhg omg:

"Why should I have to spend that much time learning a game? I should be able to just pick up and play it and not feel that I was cheated out of my time. "Learning fundamentals" is too much work for what I want to do... play a game 30 minutes a day and then not think about it again."

"Rushes just frustrate new players and make them wonder why they would buy a game that penalizes them for not memorizing some godforsakenly stupid build order and using it every damn game. It isn't strategy, it is rote memorization and quick clicking/micromanagement."

"Pissing off people that don't play Starcraft 8 hours a day and don't want to memorize build trees just so that they can play for 5 minutes without getting destroyed is going to make people throw away their copies of starcraft 2 and go back to much better RTS's."

"The problem with that point of view is that it only takes into account the players that have spent ungodly amounts of time learning how to counter every possible strategy and ignores the fact that in order for any game to succeed, it has to embrace newcomers. Perhaps if there was one or even two types of rushes to face, it would be counter-able by the newbies like myself, but as it is, I just get steamrolled by people who spend their time fantasizing about marine on zergling action.... and it just makes me not want to buy the game."


It's a competitive game! It's so frustrating not being able to respond to this crap.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
February 21 2010 03:00 GMT
#85
haha, lardbeetle is a hero
I drop suckas like Plinko
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
February 21 2010 03:35 GMT
#86
On February 21 2010 11:37 Lexpar wrote:
Theres this guys called lardbeetle... Read some of his threads:

http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23329344136&sid=5000
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23329344145&sid=5000

...Hes so bad. He complains that hes not good at the game, and the people that "Dream about marine on zergling action" keep beating him because they "rush" every game. I'm so rage right now.


Edit: eguguhguhg omg:

"Why should I have to spend that much time learning a game? I should be able to just pick up and play it and not feel that I was cheated out of my time. "Learning fundamentals" is too much work for what I want to do... play a game 30 minutes a day and then not think about it again."

"Rushes just frustrate new players and make them wonder why they would buy a game that penalizes them for not memorizing some godforsakenly stupid build order and using it every damn game. It isn't strategy, it is rote memorization and quick clicking/micromanagement."

"Pissing off people that don't play Starcraft 8 hours a day and don't want to memorize build trees just so that they can play for 5 minutes without getting destroyed is going to make people throw away their copies of starcraft 2 and go back to much better RTS's."

"The problem with that point of view is that it only takes into account the players that have spent ungodly amounts of time learning how to counter every possible strategy and ignores the fact that in order for any game to succeed, it has to embrace newcomers. Perhaps if there was one or even two types of rushes to face, it would be counter-able by the newbies like myself, but as it is, I just get steamrolled by people who spend their time fantasizing about marine on zergling action.... and it just makes me not want to buy the game."


It's a competitive game! It's so frustrating not being able to respond to this crap.


I think this dude even has a hard time playing tetris...
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Achromic
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
773 Posts
February 21 2010 05:25 GMT
#87
WC3 Gamers in Starcraft... saw this coming.
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 21 2010 05:39 GMT
#88
On February 21 2010 12:00 Gann1 wrote:
haha, lardbeetle is a hero


He's a total moron. I hope he goes back and playes "better" RTS, rofl.
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
February 21 2010 08:05 GMT
#89
Feels like everything needs 50% more HP

http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23329184097&sid=5000
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Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
February 21 2010 13:35 GMT
#90
hahahaha, oh god you can tell the wow players from a mile away. Expecting every aspect of three entirely different races to be 100% the same under a different name is just lolz

Blizz may have made a mistake letting so many scrubtastic players into a ladder only beta; should have had a ladder beta and a comp stomp / whatever defense beta to keep em happy lollll

I keep telling myself that it's ok to have them there to test system specs and look for bugs in the "wow clown" league, but that's a lot of people to be testing system specs T_T
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 21 2010 14:50 GMT
#91
id rather have Blizzard send an invite to every tl member instead of those undeserving faggots..
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fAnTaCy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States893 Posts
February 21 2010 18:28 GMT
#92
On February 21 2010 23:50 Kenpachi wrote:
id rather have Blizzard send an invite to every tl member instead of those undeserving faggots..

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HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-21 18:37:42
February 21 2010 18:37 GMT
#93
On February 22 2010 03:28 fAnTaCy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2010 23:50 Kenpachi wrote:
id rather have Blizzard send an invite to every tl member instead of those undeserving faggots..



A little harsh but the fun thing, people that want skilled players to join them ( a few threads on the forums if you search or look for them ) has incredible rage of noobs/other rts players that cant keep up - No one wants to play a SC player due to they have no chance but the fun thing in all of this is that people WHINE about players wanting competition and other skilled players to join in when the noobs are whining about not having enough competitive players to play against...
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zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
February 21 2010 20:54 GMT
#94
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23329394757&sid=5000

i was just playing in a game 1v1 against zerg. i had 6 bunkers all arranged around the entrance to my base, then the zerg hit with about 15-20 hydralisks. killed every bunker, i think we killed 1 hydralisk..... blizz seems to have "dummed down" bunkers. they die so quick, i think there almost useless. its just a waste of 100 resources.


This guy sounds pretty gosu imo. I wonder if he knows that scvs can repair buildings?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 21 2010 21:47 GMT
#95
On February 22 2010 05:54 zerglingsfolife wrote:
This guy sounds pretty gosu imo. I wonder if he knows that scvs can repair buildings?

To be fair, people have been complaining that static defenses (and buildings in general) are to squishy to be useful--it's not an isolated complaint.
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Undisputed-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States379 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-22 16:41:34
February 22 2010 16:37 GMT
#96
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23329395150&sid=5000

I don't think this guy would approve of Ret's assimilator win lol


I just played a match where I completely destroyed my opponent, but he won because he hid a bunch of hatcheries all over the map and took out my mineral line with the last of his forces. The win condition being the loss of all buildings can sometimes be misleading.

I had 4 warp Prisms, and all he had was overlords and roaches. He literally could not kill me at this point, but he still somehow won the game. That's pretty stupid in my opinion.


-----------------

yes, that's the kind of thing I'm talking about. Once the game is clearly over one way or another, but because of exploits with game mechanics the winner of the match gets a loss.


Also side note, probably need to change the name of either warp ray or warp prism, if the warp ray attacks using prisms, it's very confusing.


------------

Be that as it may, the current system is very unintuitive in this regard.

It may be that this is really the best win condition system out there, even with it's imperfections, and I can accept that. I just feel it's something the dev's might not have considered, since most hardcore SCII players don't sit around watching all their buildings get destroyed one by one, they just GG.

And to continue this point, these are fringe cases, small but annoying issues that plauge the casual leagues much more than the hardcore ones.


-----------

I do understand your point certainly, but I think there is probably a more elegant win condition system that could be implemented.

having to kill every unit would be disastrous because in said game it would never have ended since he would have just burrowed his roaches and I never would have been able to kill them.

Obviously you need a system where it's still possible to slowly rebuild and strike back if the opponent gets cocky and is not thorough, but I think there needs to be a way for the game to realize who has the upper hand when the last buildings leave the map, or some way of systematically hunting down the opponent's remaining bases with your invincible units.

Again, the reason I made the thread is I think it's a case that's awkward enough not to come up in internal testing, but which is still a legitimate concern.

Just saying "Well learn to run your probes away" is not really a satisfying solution, it's very unintuitive.
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
February 22 2010 18:34 GMT
#97
On February 22 2010 03:28 fAnTaCy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2010 23:50 Kenpachi wrote:
id rather have Blizzard send an invite to every tl member instead of those undeserving faggots..


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Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-22 19:50:33
February 22 2010 19:49 GMT
#98
On February 21 2010 05:49 zerglingsfolife wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Show nested quote +
This has to be the 3248726th thread about roaches. My message is the same to all of you. Stop being noobs and crying balance. L2Scout and counter. I play random and have no problem stopping a roach rush with ANY race. Get more APM. Use your resources more wisely. Stop. Being. Bad.

http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23329343799&sid=5000

This guy is saying this in response to Artosis opening post about Roach imbalance. Artosis also mentions he is number 1 in the entire ladder. LOLOLOL.

Artosis LEARN 2 PLAY NOOB!

God I love these forums

To be fair, I get tired of people complaining about Roaches too. They're fine.
They are maybe a bit too good for 2v2, but in 1v1 (which I think he's posting about) there's no issue with them.
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
February 23 2010 03:37 GMT
#99
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23393069129&sid=3000

oh god,
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lu_cid
Profile Joined April 2008
United States428 Posts
February 23 2010 04:46 GMT
#100
On February 23 2010 12:37 Lobbo wrote:
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23393069129&sid=3000

oh god,


Wooooooooooow

I am utterly baffled by this thread. Just blows my mind.
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