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On February 11 2010 06:55 ibutoss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2010 03:39 Salv wrote:
Most likely a good idea, yes. The speed limit is 50 all within the city, so I will just coast at 60 from now on. I'm not sure if I will even go much faster than that when in traffic either. Where I am from at least, most people drive 10 over and that's it, I drive (drove lol) faster than most people, but only because I still felt I was in control of the car.
Going to tell my parents later, hopefully no one breaks out the big spoon. This shows a complete lack of understanding and lack of maturity about this whole situation. Going 60km is still too fast when the signed speed is 50, especially in bad conditions. You THINK you are in control of the car, until you lose control of the car. Oh but you are such a great driver? even professional drivers lose control of their cars because there is one thing you can't control while driving and that's the road conditions.
Holy shit mom, I didn't know you posted on TL? Seriously, were you in the car with me? Did you see the roads? The only thing I said about the weather conditions were that it is in the middle of winter, and that my front windshield wasn't clear enough to clearly identify a police vehicle from like fifty yards away. It wasn't even snowing, and the roads were plowed completely, the only reason my windshield wasn't perfectly clear was just because it was a bit dirty, but it still perfectly clear enough to drive with, or else I would have cleaned it.
Are you fucking kidding me about going 60 in a 50? You honestly think that's unreasonable? No one goes the speed limit, because it's slow as hell, and because it's dangerous to go against the flow traffic, either by going too slow or too fast. You're fucking insane.
P.S No one was on the road, so you can chill out with all your breaking distance statistics.
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On February 11 2010 07:20 Salv wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2010 06:55 ibutoss wrote:On February 11 2010 03:39 Salv wrote:
Most likely a good idea, yes. The speed limit is 50 all within the city, so I will just coast at 60 from now on. I'm not sure if I will even go much faster than that when in traffic either. Where I am from at least, most people drive 10 over and that's it, I drive (drove lol) faster than most people, but only because I still felt I was in control of the car.
Going to tell my parents later, hopefully no one breaks out the big spoon. This shows a complete lack of understanding and lack of maturity about this whole situation. Going 60km is still too fast when the signed speed is 50, especially in bad conditions. You THINK you are in control of the car, until you lose control of the car. Oh but you are such a great driver? even professional drivers lose control of their cars because there is one thing you can't control while driving and that's the road conditions. Holy shit mom, I didn't know you posted on TL? Seriously, were you in the car with me? Did you see the roads? The only thing I said about the weather conditions were that it is in the middle of winter, and that my front windshield wasn't clear enough to clearly identify a police vehicle from like fifty yards away. It wasn't even snowing, and the roads were plowed completely, the only reason my windshield wasn't perfectly clear was just because it was a bit dirty, but it still perfectly clear enough to drive with, or else I would have cleaned it. Are you fucking kidding me about going 60 in a 50? You honestly think that's unreasonable? No one goes the speed limit, because it's slow as hell, and because it's dangerous to go against the flow traffic, either by going too slow or too fast. You're fucking insane. P.S No one was on the road, so you can chill out with all your breaking distance statistics.
My thoughts exactly. Obviously at 7:30am theres not going to be many cars on the road. Beside those stats are wrong it depends on the brand of car, weight, and all that other crap. 
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On February 11 2010 07:20 Salv wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2010 06:55 ibutoss wrote:On February 11 2010 03:39 Salv wrote:
Most likely a good idea, yes. The speed limit is 50 all within the city, so I will just coast at 60 from now on. I'm not sure if I will even go much faster than that when in traffic either. Where I am from at least, most people drive 10 over and that's it, I drive (drove lol) faster than most people, but only because I still felt I was in control of the car.
Going to tell my parents later, hopefully no one breaks out the big spoon. This shows a complete lack of understanding and lack of maturity about this whole situation. Going 60km is still too fast when the signed speed is 50, especially in bad conditions. You THINK you are in control of the car, until you lose control of the car. Oh but you are such a great driver? even professional drivers lose control of their cars because there is one thing you can't control while driving and that's the road conditions. Holy shit mom, I didn't know you posted on TL? Seriously, were you in the car with me? Did you see the roads? The only thing I said about the weather conditions were that it is in the middle of winter, and that my front windshield wasn't clear enough to clearly identify a police vehicle from like fifty yards away. It wasn't even snowing, and the roads were plowed completely, the only reason my windshield wasn't perfectly clear was just because it was a bit dirty, but it still perfectly clear enough to drive with, or else I would have cleaned it. Are you fucking kidding me about going 60 in a 50? You honestly think that's unreasonable? No one goes the speed limit, because it's slow as hell, and because it's dangerous to go against the flow traffic, either by going too slow or too fast. You're fucking insane. P.S No one was on the road, so you can chill out with all your breaking distance statistics.
The good thing about knowing I'm right means I don't have to be in the car with you. Yeah I do think driving at the speed limit is reasonable, as do more experienced drivers than yourself who advised government bodies to establish those speed limits.
I don't live in Canada but I seriously doubt no one obeys the speed limit since you know, more people from Canada would be posting on tl.net about their fines. Your welcome to act immaturely since this is the blog section so I'll just leave you a quote from our roads and traffic authority (who I'm sure have better driving skills/knowledge AND statistics to back them up, unlike yourself).
"The risk of causing death or injury in an urban 60 km/h zone increases rapidly with relatively small increases in speed. The accident risk at 65 km/h is about twice the risk at 60 km/h. At 70 km/h, the accident risk is more than four times the risk than at 60 km/h"
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On February 11 2010 07:25 kOre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2010 07:20 Salv wrote:On February 11 2010 06:55 ibutoss wrote:On February 11 2010 03:39 Salv wrote:
Most likely a good idea, yes. The speed limit is 50 all within the city, so I will just coast at 60 from now on. I'm not sure if I will even go much faster than that when in traffic either. Where I am from at least, most people drive 10 over and that's it, I drive (drove lol) faster than most people, but only because I still felt I was in control of the car.
Going to tell my parents later, hopefully no one breaks out the big spoon. This shows a complete lack of understanding and lack of maturity about this whole situation. Going 60km is still too fast when the signed speed is 50, especially in bad conditions. You THINK you are in control of the car, until you lose control of the car. Oh but you are such a great driver? even professional drivers lose control of their cars because there is one thing you can't control while driving and that's the road conditions. Holy shit mom, I didn't know you posted on TL? Seriously, were you in the car with me? Did you see the roads? The only thing I said about the weather conditions were that it is in the middle of winter, and that my front windshield wasn't clear enough to clearly identify a police vehicle from like fifty yards away. It wasn't even snowing, and the roads were plowed completely, the only reason my windshield wasn't perfectly clear was just because it was a bit dirty, but it still perfectly clear enough to drive with, or else I would have cleaned it. Are you fucking kidding me about going 60 in a 50? You honestly think that's unreasonable? No one goes the speed limit, because it's slow as hell, and because it's dangerous to go against the flow traffic, either by going too slow or too fast. You're fucking insane. P.S No one was on the road, so you can chill out with all your breaking distance statistics. My thoughts exactly. Obviously at 7:30am theres not going to be many cars on the road. Beside those stats are wrong it depends on the brand of car, weight, and all that other crap.
7:30am is nearly peak hour for people going to work, I wonder how many cars would be on the road because people need to go to work?
Those statistics were taken from the transport authorities website, they are averages based on brand of car, weight, "all that crap". So that doesn't make them wrong.
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On February 11 2010 06:55 kOre wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2010 06:50 ibutoss wrote:On February 10 2010 22:40 Salv wrote:
I was driving in a 50 km/h zone, doing 70 km/h. I usually keep my eyes peeled for police officers, as it's pretty much known in this city where they catch people. However it's the mid of winter, I couldn't too clearly out of the windshield and it was 7:30 a.m so I didn't see an officer parked off of main street on a side road. He clocks me speeding at 20 km/h over the limit and pulls me over.
I'm no expert but by speeding 20k over the limit practically doubles your breaking distance, in your self-confessed bad weather possibly even further. Add to that your reactions might be delayed because your so eagerly searching for marked police vehicles instead of paying attention to the road. Suck up the fine and be thankful someone didn't get hurt or killed from your stupidity. I know this is harsh however when you are driving, you have not just your own life, and your passengers lives in your hands but also everyone else using the roads. Think twice next time. What a douche bag, he obviously knew that he could avoid an accident if it even came to that. Oh and it DOES NOT double your breaking distance even in that weather.
Yes it does. You obviously have never seen real winter. Ice can at least triple your breaking distance. You don't slow down when you're sliding on ice, that's the entire point.
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On February 11 2010 07:28 ibutoss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2010 07:20 Salv wrote:On February 11 2010 06:55 ibutoss wrote:On February 11 2010 03:39 Salv wrote:
Most likely a good idea, yes. The speed limit is 50 all within the city, so I will just coast at 60 from now on. I'm not sure if I will even go much faster than that when in traffic either. Where I am from at least, most people drive 10 over and that's it, I drive (drove lol) faster than most people, but only because I still felt I was in control of the car.
Going to tell my parents later, hopefully no one breaks out the big spoon. This shows a complete lack of understanding and lack of maturity about this whole situation. Going 60km is still too fast when the signed speed is 50, especially in bad conditions. You THINK you are in control of the car, until you lose control of the car. Oh but you are such a great driver? even professional drivers lose control of their cars because there is one thing you can't control while driving and that's the road conditions. Holy shit mom, I didn't know you posted on TL? Seriously, were you in the car with me? Did you see the roads? The only thing I said about the weather conditions were that it is in the middle of winter, and that my front windshield wasn't clear enough to clearly identify a police vehicle from like fifty yards away. It wasn't even snowing, and the roads were plowed completely, the only reason my windshield wasn't perfectly clear was just because it was a bit dirty, but it still perfectly clear enough to drive with, or else I would have cleaned it. Are you fucking kidding me about going 60 in a 50? You honestly think that's unreasonable? No one goes the speed limit, because it's slow as hell, and because it's dangerous to go against the flow traffic, either by going too slow or too fast. You're fucking insane. P.S No one was on the road, so you can chill out with all your breaking distance statistics. The good thing about knowing I'm right means I don't have to be in the car with you. Yeah I do think driving at the speed limit is reasonable, as do more experienced drivers than yourself who advised government bodies to establish those speed limits. I don't live in Canada but I seriously doubt no one obeys the speed limit since you know, more people from Canada would be posting on tl.net about their fines. Your welcome to act immaturely since this is the blog section so I'll just leave you a quote from our roads and traffic authority (who I'm sure have better driving skills/knowledge AND statistics to back them up, unlike yourself). "The risk of causing death or injury in an urban 60 km/h zone increases rapidly with relatively small increases in speed. The accident risk at 65 km/h is about twice the risk at 60 km/h. At 70 km/h, the accident risk is more than four times the risk than at 60 km/h"
Lmao who the fuck is this guy?
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On February 11 2010 11:00 Salv wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2010 07:28 ibutoss wrote:On February 11 2010 07:20 Salv wrote:On February 11 2010 06:55 ibutoss wrote:On February 11 2010 03:39 Salv wrote:
Most likely a good idea, yes. The speed limit is 50 all within the city, so I will just coast at 60 from now on. I'm not sure if I will even go much faster than that when in traffic either. Where I am from at least, most people drive 10 over and that's it, I drive (drove lol) faster than most people, but only because I still felt I was in control of the car.
Going to tell my parents later, hopefully no one breaks out the big spoon. This shows a complete lack of understanding and lack of maturity about this whole situation. Going 60km is still too fast when the signed speed is 50, especially in bad conditions. You THINK you are in control of the car, until you lose control of the car. Oh but you are such a great driver? even professional drivers lose control of their cars because there is one thing you can't control while driving and that's the road conditions. Holy shit mom, I didn't know you posted on TL? Seriously, were you in the car with me? Did you see the roads? The only thing I said about the weather conditions were that it is in the middle of winter, and that my front windshield wasn't clear enough to clearly identify a police vehicle from like fifty yards away. It wasn't even snowing, and the roads were plowed completely, the only reason my windshield wasn't perfectly clear was just because it was a bit dirty, but it still perfectly clear enough to drive with, or else I would have cleaned it. Are you fucking kidding me about going 60 in a 50? You honestly think that's unreasonable? No one goes the speed limit, because it's slow as hell, and because it's dangerous to go against the flow traffic, either by going too slow or too fast. You're fucking insane. P.S No one was on the road, so you can chill out with all your breaking distance statistics. The good thing about knowing I'm right means I don't have to be in the car with you. Yeah I do think driving at the speed limit is reasonable, as do more experienced drivers than yourself who advised government bodies to establish those speed limits. I don't live in Canada but I seriously doubt no one obeys the speed limit since you know, more people from Canada would be posting on tl.net about their fines. Your welcome to act immaturely since this is the blog section so I'll just leave you a quote from our roads and traffic authority (who I'm sure have better driving skills/knowledge AND statistics to back them up, unlike yourself). "The risk of causing death or injury in an urban 60 km/h zone increases rapidly with relatively small increases in speed. The accident risk at 65 km/h is about twice the risk at 60 km/h. At 70 km/h, the accident risk is more than four times the risk than at 60 km/h" Lmao who the fuck is this guy?
You're free to ignore information/opinions that disagree with yours, don't know why what he's posting is so upsetting to you.
From the point of view of insurance companies, people who get speeding tickets are such and such more likely to be in accidents, and therefore the expected cost to cover them is higher. So of course their premiums should be raised.
Of course, some people who get speeding tickets aren't more likely to be in accidents, but why should they take anyone's word for it?
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On February 11 2010 09:27 Durak wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2010 06:55 kOre wrote:On February 11 2010 06:50 ibutoss wrote:On February 10 2010 22:40 Salv wrote:
I was driving in a 50 km/h zone, doing 70 km/h. I usually keep my eyes peeled for police officers, as it's pretty much known in this city where they catch people. However it's the mid of winter, I couldn't too clearly out of the windshield and it was 7:30 a.m so I didn't see an officer parked off of main street on a side road. He clocks me speeding at 20 km/h over the limit and pulls me over.
I'm no expert but by speeding 20k over the limit practically doubles your breaking distance, in your self-confessed bad weather possibly even further. Add to that your reactions might be delayed because your so eagerly searching for marked police vehicles instead of paying attention to the road. Suck up the fine and be thankful someone didn't get hurt or killed from your stupidity. I know this is harsh however when you are driving, you have not just your own life, and your passengers lives in your hands but also everyone else using the roads. Think twice next time. What a douche bag, he obviously knew that he could avoid an accident if it even came to that. Oh and it DOES NOT double your breaking distance even in that weather. Yes it does. You obviously have never seen real winter. Ice can at least triple your breaking distance. You don't slow down when you're sliding on ice, that's the entire point.
If there was ice you wouldn't be speeding in the first place. I usually drive 10 over if I can see and it's snowing and whatever, but if I know theres black ice then I keep like 10 meters back from the car in front of me and drive well under the speed limit. It's just common sense, which I'm sure Salv would have done if there was ice (which obviously there wasn't or he would've mentioned it).
EDIT: I live in Calgary right now, probably more black ice here than anywhere else in North America because the weather here blows.
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There's ice everywhere and I'm pretty sure you can't spot it to slow down while you're blazing around at 70km/h. Whatever though, this argument isn't necessary for the thread.
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Kore, I did some research and all the information I have found says that the Justice of the Peace can only reduce the fine, or give me a longer amount of time to pay it, but cannot do anything about the demerit points, do you know anything about this?
I figure it might be one of those things where it isn't legally written, but that they have the power to throw out a ticket. I'm hoping for leniency, I don't mind the fine or the points as long as my insurance doesn't increase. All the sites I've read say that one offense such as this (which is considered minor) won't increase your insurance, but that I am now at risk for increased premiums if I incur any more offenses (which won't happen).
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I went to court on the day that it told me to go and this is what happened.
My ticket was $270 and 3 demerit points. I talked to the guy and told him why I was speeding and he cut me a break and brought it down to $150 and 1 demerit point and told me to start slowing down when I'm driving.
They don't tell you in writing that they'll reduce anything but it does happen. As far as the insurance I'm not too sure but chances are even if it increases it'll only be by a bit.
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On February 11 2010 11:14 igotmyown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2010 11:00 Salv wrote:On February 11 2010 07:28 ibutoss wrote:On February 11 2010 07:20 Salv wrote:On February 11 2010 06:55 ibutoss wrote:On February 11 2010 03:39 Salv wrote:
Most likely a good idea, yes. The speed limit is 50 all within the city, so I will just coast at 60 from now on. I'm not sure if I will even go much faster than that when in traffic either. Where I am from at least, most people drive 10 over and that's it, I drive (drove lol) faster than most people, but only because I still felt I was in control of the car.
Going to tell my parents later, hopefully no one breaks out the big spoon. This shows a complete lack of understanding and lack of maturity about this whole situation. Going 60km is still too fast when the signed speed is 50, especially in bad conditions. You THINK you are in control of the car, until you lose control of the car. Oh but you are such a great driver? even professional drivers lose control of their cars because there is one thing you can't control while driving and that's the road conditions. Holy shit mom, I didn't know you posted on TL? Seriously, were you in the car with me? Did you see the roads? The only thing I said about the weather conditions were that it is in the middle of winter, and that my front windshield wasn't clear enough to clearly identify a police vehicle from like fifty yards away. It wasn't even snowing, and the roads were plowed completely, the only reason my windshield wasn't perfectly clear was just because it was a bit dirty, but it still perfectly clear enough to drive with, or else I would have cleaned it. Are you fucking kidding me about going 60 in a 50? You honestly think that's unreasonable? No one goes the speed limit, because it's slow as hell, and because it's dangerous to go against the flow traffic, either by going too slow or too fast. You're fucking insane. P.S No one was on the road, so you can chill out with all your breaking distance statistics. The good thing about knowing I'm right means I don't have to be in the car with you. Yeah I do think driving at the speed limit is reasonable, as do more experienced drivers than yourself who advised government bodies to establish those speed limits. I don't live in Canada but I seriously doubt no one obeys the speed limit since you know, more people from Canada would be posting on tl.net about their fines. Your welcome to act immaturely since this is the blog section so I'll just leave you a quote from our roads and traffic authority (who I'm sure have better driving skills/knowledge AND statistics to back them up, unlike yourself). "The risk of causing death or injury in an urban 60 km/h zone increases rapidly with relatively small increases in speed. The accident risk at 65 km/h is about twice the risk at 60 km/h. At 70 km/h, the accident risk is more than four times the risk than at 60 km/h" Lmao who the fuck is this guy? You're free to ignore information/opinions that disagree with yours, don't know why what he's posting is so upsetting to you. From the point of view of insurance companies, people who get speeding tickets are such and such more likely to be in accidents, and therefore the expected cost to cover them is higher. So of course their premiums should be raised. Of course, some people who get speeding tickets aren't more likely to be in accidents, but why should they take anyone's word for it?
It's not that it's disagreeing with Salv's beliefs, it's just blatantly wrong. For one thing, the guy has never driven in Canada and don't know the general behaviour of Canadian drivers. As someone who has been driving for several years in Canada, I can tell you that you will get tailgated and honked at if you follow the speed limit exactly. The unspoken rule is 10 km/hr above the speed limit. Cops will never pull you over at that speed and everyone goes at least 10 over. On the highway, it is common to see the general traffic move at 120-130km/hr and if you're going 100, then fuck you.
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california tickets are the worst
ive got 450 dollars and whole day of driving school for going 10 miles over
and the speed limit was unuusually low to begin with for that zone
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On February 11 2010 15:42 infinity21 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2010 11:14 igotmyown wrote:On February 11 2010 11:00 Salv wrote:On February 11 2010 07:28 ibutoss wrote:On February 11 2010 07:20 Salv wrote:On February 11 2010 06:55 ibutoss wrote:On February 11 2010 03:39 Salv wrote:
Most likely a good idea, yes. The speed limit is 50 all within the city, so I will just coast at 60 from now on. I'm not sure if I will even go much faster than that when in traffic either. Where I am from at least, most people drive 10 over and that's it, I drive (drove lol) faster than most people, but only because I still felt I was in control of the car.
Going to tell my parents later, hopefully no one breaks out the big spoon. This shows a complete lack of understanding and lack of maturity about this whole situation. Going 60km is still too fast when the signed speed is 50, especially in bad conditions. You THINK you are in control of the car, until you lose control of the car. Oh but you are such a great driver? even professional drivers lose control of their cars because there is one thing you can't control while driving and that's the road conditions. Holy shit mom, I didn't know you posted on TL? Seriously, were you in the car with me? Did you see the roads? The only thing I said about the weather conditions were that it is in the middle of winter, and that my front windshield wasn't clear enough to clearly identify a police vehicle from like fifty yards away. It wasn't even snowing, and the roads were plowed completely, the only reason my windshield wasn't perfectly clear was just because it was a bit dirty, but it still perfectly clear enough to drive with, or else I would have cleaned it. Are you fucking kidding me about going 60 in a 50? You honestly think that's unreasonable? No one goes the speed limit, because it's slow as hell, and because it's dangerous to go against the flow traffic, either by going too slow or too fast. You're fucking insane. P.S No one was on the road, so you can chill out with all your breaking distance statistics. The good thing about knowing I'm right means I don't have to be in the car with you. Yeah I do think driving at the speed limit is reasonable, as do more experienced drivers than yourself who advised government bodies to establish those speed limits. I don't live in Canada but I seriously doubt no one obeys the speed limit since you know, more people from Canada would be posting on tl.net about their fines. Your welcome to act immaturely since this is the blog section so I'll just leave you a quote from our roads and traffic authority (who I'm sure have better driving skills/knowledge AND statistics to back them up, unlike yourself). "The risk of causing death or injury in an urban 60 km/h zone increases rapidly with relatively small increases in speed. The accident risk at 65 km/h is about twice the risk at 60 km/h. At 70 km/h, the accident risk is more than four times the risk than at 60 km/h" Lmao who the fuck is this guy? You're free to ignore information/opinions that disagree with yours, don't know why what he's posting is so upsetting to you. From the point of view of insurance companies, people who get speeding tickets are such and such more likely to be in accidents, and therefore the expected cost to cover them is higher. So of course their premiums should be raised. Of course, some people who get speeding tickets aren't more likely to be in accidents, but why should they take anyone's word for it? It's not that it's disagreeing with Salv's beliefs, it's just blatantly wrong. For one thing, the guy has never driven in Canada and don't know the general behaviour of Canadian drivers. As someone who has been driving for several years in Canada, I can tell you that you will get tailgated and honked at if you follow the speed limit exactly. The unspoken rule is 10 km/hr above the speed limit. Cops will never pull you over at that speed and everyone goes at least 10 over. On the highway, it is common to see the general traffic move at 120-130km/hr and if you're going 100, then fuck you.
yes this is pretty much true. Even in small towns unless it's like some god awful fog/blizzard everyone is always going 10km/h over the limit. It's not unsafe in the least as there is definitely no increase in accidents.
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On February 10 2010 23:42 Salv wrote:
You can go about 10 - 15 km/h over here it seems and you'll be fine, but 20 km/h or higher and you're going to be pulled over. I won't be speeding (no more 20 over, only 10) from now on, because I can't afford to have my license suspended for thirty days, that would be a nightmare.
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I got caught twice going 9kms over the limit while on my Provisional Licence and lost it for 3 months. Each time cost me 3 demerits and about $150, and since I was on my provisional licence I had 4 demerits (fully licenced drivers get 12 demerits).
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On February 11 2010 16:37 MaReK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2010 23:42 Salv wrote:
You can go about 10 - 15 km/h over here it seems and you'll be fine, but 20 km/h or higher and you're going to be pulled over. I won't be speeding (no more 20 over, only 10) from now on, because I can't afford to have my license suspended for thirty days, that would be a nightmare. ..... I got caught twice going 9kms over the limit while on my Provisional Licence and lost it for 3 months. Each time cost me 3 demerits and about $150, and since I was on my provisional licence I had 4 demerits (fully licenced drivers get 12 demerits).
I see you live in Austrailia. You do know the ones who know what they are talking about live in Canada. Like infinity21 said "the unspoken rule of 10km/h over is okay".
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^ Yeah I was aware, I was just comparing Canada & Australia.
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Honestly, with the increased safety of modern cars getting fatter ( ) and equipped with more technology (abs, traction control, stability control, emergency maneuvers, etc), I think they should increase the speed limit on a lot of our streets. Of course, pure residential streets should stay at 40/50 during school time but having to go at 50 on those roads at 10 pm is just nonsensical imo. You could safely go 70 on many 50 roads.
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On February 11 2010 17:23 infinity21 wrote:Honestly, with the increased safety of modern cars getting fatter ( ) and equipped with more technology (abs, traction control, stability control, emergency maneuvers, etc), I think they should increase the speed limit on a lot of our streets. Of course, pure residential streets should stay at 40/50 during school time but having to go at 50 on those roads at 10 pm is just nonsensical imo. You could safely go 70 on many 50 roads.
I thought oh my god, are you insane, until I realized you're using that newfangled metric system.
The problem isn't whether you can drive safely 99% of the time, the problem is the <1% of the time when there are accidents, and how much driving faster increases the accident rate. You're looking at the wrong data set.
There's a big problem with the modern cars argument. Aside from the obvious one, is there research that modern safety measures decrease accident rates?
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On February 11 2010 17:33 igotmyown wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2010 17:23 infinity21 wrote:Honestly, with the increased safety of modern cars getting fatter ( ) and equipped with more technology (abs, traction control, stability control, emergency maneuvers, etc), I think they should increase the speed limit on a lot of our streets. Of course, pure residential streets should stay at 40/50 during school time but having to go at 50 on those roads at 10 pm is just nonsensical imo. You could safely go 70 on many 50 roads. I thought oh my god, are you insane, until I realized you're using that newfangled metric system. The problem isn't whether you can drive safely 99% of the time, the problem is the <1% of the time when there are accidents, and how much driving faster increases the accident rate. You're looking at the wrong data set. There's a big problem with the modern cars argument. Aside from the obvious one, is there research that modern safety measures decrease accident rates?
If you're not convinced that automatic brakes that perform better than >99% of the driving population, a system which allows you to get maximum traction in any situation and a system that brakes individual wheels to correct sliding will NOT decrease accident rates then I'm obviously wasting my time. Do you even drive?
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