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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-15 20:20:33
March 15 2020 18:31 GMT
#5661
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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
March 15 2020 19:32 GMT
#5662
Another option is to ignore it or at least treat it with much less gravity. I think that's better than calling for censorship because the words are upsetting. You don't have to engage with it or give it mental space.
KTY
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-15 21:04:05
March 15 2020 20:06 GMT
#5663
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28598 Posts
March 15 2020 20:11 GMT
#5664
people are already doing this. and it has on very very many occasions been suggested that the preferred method for you is to ignore him, too.
Moderator
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9132 Posts
March 15 2020 20:13 GMT
#5665
Will be easier to ignore you if you put your longer posts (or at least parts of them) in spoilers.
You're now breathing manually
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-15 21:04:36
March 15 2020 20:16 GMT
#5666
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8960 Posts
March 15 2020 20:18 GMT
#5667
Just to be clear, after reading JimmiC's opinion on the matter happening in the thread; We are to expect no actions against us if the same tactics for posting are used? Doesn't matter if it's to GH or any other poster, right? I can be snarky and condescending, lording my "knowledge" of world affairs over others?

I just want crystal clear words from mods on this.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28598 Posts
March 15 2020 20:31 GMT
#5668
I'll say that I didn't see anything worthy of mod action in any of GH's recent posts. But if any poster is going to try to 'deliberately try to be annoying to showcase how annoying they perceive another poster as being', the most likely outcome is just that you yourself come off as annoying, which may or may not result in some type of action.

The best, in my opinion, is if everybody posts to the best of their capacity and avoid having long drawn out conversations with posters that for whatever reason makes this impossible for them to do. It's totally fair if you reply to those posters every now and then because you want to correct something they said. But then it's also totally fair (sometimes, ideal, even) if that other poster replies to you, and you just internally go like 'okay, not worth it' and drop the conversation.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-15 20:46:35
March 15 2020 20:46 GMT
#5669
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
March 15 2020 20:57 GMT
#5670
I honestly don’t see anything objectionable enough in GH’s post to even warrant us having this discussion. It doesn’t look like he’s skirting the line, it just looks like someone has a vendetta against him and is looking for any reason to pounce on him, justified or not.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28598 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-15 20:59:47
March 15 2020 20:57 GMT
#5671
I feel like I have posted everything I am remotely interested in posting on this subject on several occasions already and I'm gonna do what I consistently recommend you to do - drop out of a conversation where I really can't picture the conversation progressing. (for what it's worth, I do agree with LL. I genuinely didn't see anything particularly bad about any of GH's posts that you complain about, and I see you coming off as whining about pretty much nothing for no good reason. )
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 15 2020 21:09 GMT
#5672
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10107 Posts
March 15 2020 22:19 GMT
#5673
GH got BTFO by Biff, that is punishment enough for our almighty and benevolent teacher.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8960 Posts
April 15 2020 04:32 GMT
#5674
We really need a political philosophy thread or something. While the current discussion is partly relevant, it's not really accomplishing anything and the last 5+ pages have shown that.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
April 15 2020 04:55 GMT
#5675
The Bernie/Biden discussion is immediately relevant. Political philosophy in the context of real current events is politics. I can understand if you think the arguments drag out and get repetitive, and that's kind of in the eye of the beholder.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8960 Posts
April 15 2020 07:50 GMT
#5676
On April 15 2020 13:55 Danglars wrote:
The Bernie/Biden discussion is immediately relevant. Political philosophy in the context of real current events is politics. I can understand if you think the arguments drag out and get repetitive, and that's kind of in the eye of the beholder.

Thank you for your continued contribution to everything, Danglars.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
April 15 2020 16:01 GMT
#5677
On April 15 2020 16:50 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
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On April 15 2020 13:55 Danglars wrote:
The Bernie/Biden discussion is immediately relevant. Political philosophy in the context of real current events is politics. I can understand if you think the arguments drag out and get repetitive, and that's kind of in the eye of the beholder.

Thank you for your continued contribution to everything, Danglars.

You’re most welcome!
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12045 Posts
April 15 2020 19:10 GMT
#5678
On April 15 2020 13:32 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
We really need a political philosophy thread or something. While the current discussion is partly relevant, it's not really accomplishing anything and the last 5+ pages have shown that.


It accomplishes something in that it clearly shows that I'm right :p

Most internet debates are done for the audience rather than to get the opponent to concede. It sucks but it's not limited to philosophy, it's almost always the case.
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
April 15 2020 20:00 GMT
#5679
I confess that I tune out the background “you probably don’t know ... you probably don’t care” “string of neoliberal memes” “hilariously naive” etc etc. I read it, but I’m very used to that patina of insults. These days, it can even be sporting and good-natured as well as mean-spirited.

I’ve been pondering the sequence of arguments ending with Biff’s “Politics is about compromises” and Nebu’s retort “politics is about winning”

I thought it was damn interesting seeing that end evolve from a Sanders/Biden fight and neoliberal/pragmatic leftist battle. Yes, I’m likely voting for Trump in November for his handling of the presidency and compared to his likely opponent, and I still thought it was mentally stimulating and thought provoking. To what extent is that a real divide? How much of it is in the mushy definitions of neoliberalism and necessary compromise itself? Are both perspectives more right than wrong?
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
April 25 2020 14:48 GMT
#5680
On April 16 2020 05:00 Danglars wrote:
I confess that I tune out the background “you probably don’t know ... you probably don’t care” “string of neoliberal memes” “hilariously naive” etc etc. I read it, but I’m very used to that patina of insults. These days, it can even be sporting and good-natured as well as mean-spirited.

I’ve been pondering the sequence of arguments ending with Biff’s “Politics is about compromises” and Nebu’s retort “politics is about winning”

I thought it was damn interesting seeing that end evolve from a Sanders/Biden fight and neoliberal/pragmatic leftist battle. Yes, I’m likely voting for Trump in November for his handling of the presidency and compared to his likely opponent, and I still thought it was mentally stimulating and thought provoking. To what extent is that a real divide? How much of it is in the mushy definitions of neoliberalism and necessary compromise itself? Are both perspectives more right than wrong?


Both positions seem odd to me; politics shouldn't be about either of those things, it should be about correct governance of the country said politics are happening in.

If the end goal is winning, then what happens to governance?
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
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