US Politics Feedback Thread - Page 283

On March 10 2020 08:03 farvacola wrote:
I thought stupid one liners with a tweet were frowned upon nowadays? If so, why is a mod posting this:

On March 10 2020 08:12 KwarK wrote:

Xxio loves “owning the libs”.

On March 10 2020 08:23 Acrofales wrote:

But... it doesn't even make sense. Isn't that just everybody's favourite passtime of quoting Trump's own tweets back at him and lulling at the hipocrisy? How are libs getting owned here, rather than Trump?

On March 10 2020 08:03 farvacola wrote:
I thought stupid one liners with a tweet were frowned upon nowadays? If so, why is a mod posting this:

On March 10 2020 08:38 Danglars wrote:

We just had the illuminating thread of
Wombat: How do people not realise Trump is absolutely full of shit?
Gorsa: [They don't care]
JimmiC: Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug.
iamthedave: He upsets the libs so its all good.

Yeah, I think Xxio's big fault is portraying a largely disagreed with view. If he had asked why Biden and Sanders are full of shit, and alleged anyone who supports them is guilty of confirmation bias or just wanting to upset the GOPers, I'm sure he'd be welcomed in those parts.

Unless people are silently not ok with oneliner threads about how Trump's supporters are gullible idiots ... emphasis on silent.

On March 10 2020 08:53 Gorsameth wrote:
Xxio's post would likely have been helped a lot by simply sticking to the thread rules. If he said that it was a fake tweet being shown around by left news networks he might have gotten some people agreeing with him that fake news is bad, regardless of who does it.
But like this that tweet is indistinguishable from any number of actual things Trump has tweeted.

On March 10 2020 08:59 JimmiC wrote:

I think you are missing the point of farva's post. . The examples you were showing, none of them had a tweet or article so they didn't break the forum rules.

I also think you know the difference and were well aware. This is why your name consistently shows up on this thread, both to stir the pot on any drama you can, even though you don't post in the USPOL thread, and people not understanding why you are still here when others are not.

On March 10 2020 08:38 Danglars wrote:
We just had the illuminating thread of
Wombat: How do people not realise Trump is absolutely full of shit?
...
iamthedave: He upsets the libs so its all good.

On March 10 2020 04:10 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Even GH's biggest detractors generally agree that his behavior has improved (in accordance with what was demanded of him) after he came back from his ban, and he just two days ago wrote 'Finally, I want a solidarity tempban for 2 days with brian as a show of good faith to my commitment to do better and in recognition of past wrongs.' - which is virtually unprecedented in how far it goes in showing repentance..

At this point I'm honestly feeling that the responsibility for not accepting his apologies is more with the people not accepting his apologies than how he issues his apologies, and from my perspective it seems like a worthless endeavor on his behalf to spend any more effort doing so.

I also don't really see an issue with an explanation-apology in general though - you can both be sorry for your behavior and explain why you behaved in that way at the same time. (This is distinctly different from the 'I am sorry you're so thin-skinned that you were offended by my perfectly fine comment' - type of apology - which is indeed a non-apology.')

We have a difference of opinion on what/who violates a decorum we disagree on. It's not just us and politics, it is everyone everywhere about everything, from microwaving fish in the office to expecting someone to bring reusable bags shopping, to checkpoints in Gaza, Gitmo to Gulags, Nazi's to neighborhood covenants, Bombs to books, and the list is endless.

That said I recognize I'm a guest, and while I obviously believe in a more collective style of 'ownership', I also recognize the material conditions under which we operate. Which is to say it is TL's house, and I'm a guest. I think most people appreciate where I'm coming from now which is really what I wanted more than anything.

While I'd like to keep pushing us as a community towards improvements I mentioned, I don't want to be unreasonably unbearable. I'm aiming to be a more cordial "dangerous negro" (me Kwark are cool no worries) that keeps my compromises toward negative peace (ty for that acknowledgement Drone and others) to a fair amount by the standards of those with determinative power without entirely compromising my position.

I don't have an issue with people disputing GH's posting has improved, I would have a problem with someone suggesting I was not allowed to criticise GH.

But I don't think not quoting GH's apology was an egregious oversight, I linked and quoted his post so anyone that thought he perhaps was completely repentant despite everyone knowing he had shown no remorse could see it.

I thought people took away the important parts without it turning into a semantic argument about grammar, and I think the format I presented it in helped that happen. I'll take the criticism seriously though and be more thoughtful next time.