US Politics Feedback Thread - Page 119

On April 12 2018 22:29 bo1b wrote:
I have a fairly large disagreement with anyone at all who genuinely has a "one side of politics is evil" thought process. It's obviously extremely easy to point out the ridiculous flaws in the Trump administration, yet politics has become more of a team sport in the last few years (at least it seems so), so whenever I see a post with an absolute and total lack of nuance in support of one particular party, side of politics, person etc I have to raise eyebrows.

It is particularly egregious given the moral righteousness the left has devlopped in recent years, perhaps as a reflection to the self declared "patriotism" that the right side of politics around the anglosphere seems unable to stray away from, and I'm left with a feeling that people are going out of there way to hate each other based on minor differences in political beliefs. The arguments of "whataboutism" are somewhat hillarios given just a year and a bit ago any criticism at all towards the left could and would be countered with "but what about Trump...", and I received the impression that neither representitive was all that popular overall, and that a lesser of two evils situation had arrived.

Having major news outlets continually peddle bullshit doesn't help either, and it's not just Faux news who does so, a quick look back in time at the James Damore firing showed left leaning publications lining up to lie about what he had wrote, the circumstances it was written in, and the target audience. The inevitable argument against that is that isn't politics, which is true, yet identity politics right or wrong has become a great way to divide people into camps, and people in those camps seem to toe the party line on various things.

I guess I just genuinely believe that most people tend to sit around the center of their nations political spectrum, and having a "news panel" invite two opposing extremes on to debate helps absolutely no one, and has led to the situation we're in now, with one side of politics trying to impeach a president for a variety of reasons related to Russia, while criticising him for not taking enough action against Russia, while criticising him for taking potentially too much at the same time (the Syrian gas attacks), and on the other hand there is a group of people doing there absolute best to see what sand tastes like.

What a joke.

On April 12 2018 23:18 bo1b wrote:
I tend to agree with everything you wrote except the degree of which you wrote it, if that makes any sense. Obviously people have there preferences politically, economically, socially etc, but I honestly believe they tend to the centre more then the extremes, whereas if you just drew conclusions from media it would be the opposite.

At least that's how I think of it.

On April 12 2018 22:04 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Danglar wasn’t banned because he was right wing or even wrong, but because he turned the thread into his personal batleground shitshow by flooding it with endless bickering where he would refuse the notion that 2+2=4 if it didn’t suit his hard right ideological stance.

The whole thing had become seriously unreadable.

If you post compulsively every 15 minutes for days at a time as he did, chances are you are not helping the quality of the thread, are here for the wrong reasons and are gonna get banned.

(I’m not big on commenting on banned people but he never missed an opportunity to talk about how hopefully P6 would « reform » and so on while he was himself singlehandedly turning the thread into a noxious flame war, so screw it.)

On April 13 2018 00:54 Plansix wrote:

Posting things like “I hope people can see past their partisan blinders and view things honestly” is so passive aggressive and counter productive to discussion. Phrases like that, dripping with faux geniality, became way to common in the thread.

On April 13 2018 00:11 kollin wrote:

Do you mean people generally tend to be scared off by extremes? If so I definitely agree but I think that's down to perception, the media, the Overton window and so on rather than any objective centre ground that might exist.

On April 13 2018 02:44 mustaju wrote:
I'd also like info on the GreenHorizons ban and duration.

On April 13 2018 02:55 farvacola wrote:
Might have been self-requested or something.

On April 13 2018 00:42 TL.net Bot wrote:
GreenHorizons was just temp banned for 2 weeks by Nixer.

That account was created on 2011-04-16 10:56:04 and had 12755 posts.

Reason: Consistent derailment and general whataboutism not only in the US Politics Mega-thread but also in other threads. This is not an acceptable way to post as it worsens the discussion quality considerably.

You've done it before and you've been shown lenience, that's stopping now. Improve your posting.