EPTSo, is there any Random Icon? I have seen some comments about it, but almost noone commented on this. Is there more of us Random players who miss their icon?
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Skruttis
Sweden187 Posts
So, is there any Random Icon? I have seen some comments about it, but almost noone commented on this. Is there more of us Random players who miss their icon? | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
I guess you could introduce like ragnasaurs and whatnot. Might be interesting to look at | ||
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Skruttis
Sweden187 Posts
On July 18 2010 10:58 Plexa wrote: Moved to feedback I guess you could introduce like ragnasaurs and whatnot. Might be interesting to look at Cheers! =) Yeah, with pandabearguy as the "highest level", and some random tiny critter first. | ||
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seRapH
United States9756 Posts
kinda weird tho. i wouldn't be able to conceive the hierarchy. | ||
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Skruttis
Sweden187 Posts
On July 18 2010 22:21 seRapH wrote: do we have enough critters? kinda weird tho. i wouldn't be able to conceive the hierarchy. Well, how many levels there? There is six critters due to starcraft.wikia.com, so it might not fill up all the spaces, but like adding a "pandabearguy" or something maby works? http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Category:StarCraft_critters | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
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Skruttis
Sweden187 Posts
On July 19 2010 10:23 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: this might be kind of a dumb idea, but you could have a die as the icon, and the number of dots shown on the die could correspond to level. Had no idea the singular form of "dice" was "die"... But sure! might get odd when you reach like level 7 and 8, but then you just add an other die? Like it =) | ||
Spazer
Canada8029 Posts
On July 19 2010 10:39 Skruttis wrote: Had no idea the singular form of "dice" was "die"... But sure! might get odd when you reach like level 7 and 8, but then you just add an other die? Like it =) Screw extra dice, just use a d10 or something.  I dunno. I can see why you want random added in, but I can't really see any way for it to be implemented and not seem really unintuitive/stupid. | ||
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semantics
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Zona
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 18 2010 22:42 Skruttis wrote: Benglasses, Ragnasaur, Scantid, Ursadon, Kakaru, Rhynadon, Khadarian Crystal, Psi Emitter, Chrysalis and uh ... mmmmm one more T_TWell, how many levels there? There is six critters due to starcraft.wikia.com, so it might not fill up all the spaces, but like adding a "pandabearguy" or something maby works? http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Category:StarCraft_critters | ||
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semantics
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17726 Posts
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Skruttis
Sweden187 Posts
Plexa, can you fix it? =) | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
so I doubt the gfx team are going to make the icons for you. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On July 19 2010 14:45 Zona wrote: Why don't random people simply randomly get a T, Z, or P icon of the equivalent rank each time their post is viewed? Just like how they randomly get a side when they play the game! what i was thniking too! | ||
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semantics
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Skruttis
Sweden187 Posts
On July 19 2010 14:45 Zona wrote: Why don't random people simply randomly get a T, Z, or P icon of the equivalent rank each time their post is viewed? Just like how they randomly get a side when they play the game! What i would like is the possibility to show what race you prefere, therefore it shows in the discussion. If a Zergplayer says that mech is overpowered is that not that much of an authority, except like Artosis, but if a Terranplayer say so, then it's completely different. Therefore i think it's good to show what race you prefere, sort of so you can be judge from it. Your idea Zona is really good, but it doesn't solve this. Therefore i'm more about the dices or critters =) | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
On July 20 2010 01:08 Skruttis wrote: What i would like is the possibility to show what race you prefere, therefore it shows in the discussion. If a Zergplayer says that mech is overpowered is that not that much of an authority, except like Artosis, but if a Terranplayer say so, then it's completely different. Therefore i think it's good to show what race you prefere, sort of so you can be judge from it. Your idea Zona is really good, but it doesn't solve this. Therefore i'm more about the dices or critters =) but...if you want a system where it shows what race you prefer then whats wrong with the system right now? you said you like the system how it is now, then you said "therefore i want a completely different system" besides the fact that you should get a hold on phrasing your own opinions better, random isn't a race. critters and dice aren't iconic to SC in any way. | ||
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Skruttis
Sweden187 Posts
On July 20 2010 02:46 mOnion wrote: but...if you want a system where it shows what race you prefer then whats wrong with the system right now? you said you like the system how it is now, then you said "therefore i want a completely different system" besides the fact that you should get a hold on phrasing your own opinions better, random isn't a race. critters and dice aren't iconic to SC in any way. i agree, i wasn't clear enough. Because i think it's important that it shows what you play and therefore maybe knows and like more, it also should show if you play random. Random player, i think, can in some ways be less biassed. I agree Random isn't a race, but you play Random as well as you play Zerg or Terran or Protoss. Random also got an icon in the game, the die, and then the dice isn't that bad of a choice for an icon even in TL. So yes, they are iconic to StarCraft. Besides, if you quote me, could you quote what i accually said? I spent 5 minutes reading everything in the thread to see where your quote came from... =/ | ||
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AcrossFiveJulys
United States3612 Posts
On July 19 2010 14:46 Plexa wrote: Benglasses, Ragnasaur, Scantid, Ursadon, Kakaru, Rhynadon, Khadarian Crystal, Psi Emitter, Chrysalis and uh ... mmmmm one more T_T OMG penis icon! | ||
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semantics
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Skruttis
Sweden187 Posts
Agree, it's a big phallossymbol ^^ | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On July 19 2010 14:46 Plexa wrote: Benglasses, Ragnasaur, Scantid, Ursadon, Kakaru, Rhynadon, Khadarian Crystal, Psi Emitter, Chrysalis and uh ... mmmmm one more T_T Ion cannon? Stasis Cell? Maybe use the various versions of the Chrysalis (Young Chrysalis, Mature Chrysalis)? | ||
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Skruttis
Sweden187 Posts
On July 21 2010 03:16 Qatol wrote: Ion cannon? Stasis Cell? Maybe use the various versions of the Chrysalis (Young Chrysalis, Mature Chrysalis)? Doesn't a Statis Cell seem somewhat degrading compared to a marine? =( | ||
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SuperGnu
Sweden240 Posts
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LoCaD
Germany1634 Posts
I agree with the above Poster of the Dice would be fine. | ||
2Pacalypse-
Croatia9492 Posts
On January 11 2011 20:11 LoCaD wrote: With SC2 out and about a random Icon for TL would be nice because I am playing only Random. I agree with the above Poster of the Dice would be fine. I think you should change the race in your profile everyday, randomly. | ||
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aimless
United States57 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/YfdbB.jpg) Second attempt: ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/Znywj.jpg) I used the SC2 icon set made by mmp as a guide for the color and sizing and such. He did a great job, so everyone should think about his set for SC2 icons, if TL decides to make an SC2 icon option. + Show Spoiler + Here is his yellow set for comparison: ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/RiZXg.jpg) And the link to his OP: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=131611 I'm not very good with MS paint, so I don't know if they will meet TL's high artistic standards. But I tried hard and I think these look okay. If everyone likes them, then maybe they can be used as the random icons. Or if anyone has suggestions, I can add different ones/improve these. I used SC2 critters to round out the last four spots. In case you cannot identify what the pictures are, here's the list for the first set: + Show Spoiler + 0 - Question mark 1 to 6 - Die with the appropriate side facing upward 7 - Redstone Lava Critter 8 - Scantipede 9 - Lyote 10 - Automaton 2000. The utility bot of choice. EDIT #1: I split up my icons from mmp's set to avoid any confusion. EDIT #2: See second attempt above. After reading some feedback and thinking more about it, I made a new set of random icons. Are they better, same, or worse? Also, is the ordering good? Here's the list for the second set: + Show Spoiler + 0 - Question mark 1 - Redstone Lava Critter 2 - Scantipede 3 - Urubu 4 - Lyote 5 - Ursadak Calf 6 - Male Ursadak 7 - Automaton 2000. The utility bot of choice. 8 - D6 Die with one dot face on top. 9 - D12 Die with the letters 'T', 'Z', and 'P' visible. 10 - Coin with TL horse as heads | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6785 Posts
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baskerville
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 @mmp: nice @aimless your proposed decals are top of the line, this up to the critters... i would have continued with d&d special dices or something else, however ending on the automaton  hope we get enough people unto this however most players profess random is useless for high level of play... one MUST choose, humongous buuuuuuuullll, random rules  edit: just to clarify: i'd take a dice with no change over having nothing i'd take the decal tl settles on, i agree dice are not perfect replacement but this special feature exist in sc1 and 2, it's cool to be a part of this specific fringe... we do not deserve less... we however have to deserve it... wonder how long this debate has gone on tl? cause date of first posts about it will not even be it... dunno why they'd discard it in the first place  (competition rrr )edit2:fixin friggin frivolous typos | ||
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Marradron
Netherlands1586 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule19028 Posts
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.Aar
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
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Twistacles
Canada1327 Posts
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aimless
United States57 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/IuAuW.png) Again, the list of icons used (roughly ordered by size after the first three): + Show Spoiler + 0 - Sheep 1 - Cow 2 - Dog 3 - Redstone Lava Critter 4 - Urubu 5 - Scantipede 6 - Lyote 7 - Male Karak 8 - Ursadak Calf 9 - Male Ursadak 10 - Automaton 2000 Is this set better than the others? Post away. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
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Marradron
Netherlands1586 Posts
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aimless
United States57 Posts
On January 27 2011 05:55 Kleinmuuhg wrote: the problem that i see is the missing connection between those icons and the "race" random. Critters are a series of units that are not part of any race. Random is not a race. That is the connection. Obviously, there are no random units. So there can't be random unit icons, or this would have existed from the start. But the idea is just to give people who choose random when they play a way to differentiate themselves from the race players when posting on TL. Having critter icons creates that differentiation, while conveniently also being units from the game (rather than a group of unrelated images). On January 27 2011 07:06 Marradron wrote: + there isn't really knowing a way of which one is better than the other. For races its ez a dragoon > a probe. But why should one random critter > another random critter. Doesn't make mutch sense Are the race icons really sorted worst to best? Is a Scout really better than a High Templar? An Infested Terran better than a Guardian? I'm not certain everyone would agree the race icons have a definitive hierarchy (aside from the one bestowed by TL). Sill, that's why I generally sorted them by size. Larger = better. Except for the Automaton 2000. That is the last critter. Watch GSL replays and Tasteless will give you a sense of its importance in StarCraft. Or at least make you chuckle. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
On January 27 2011 08:41 aimless wrote: Critters are a series of units that are not part of any race. Random is not a race. That is the connection. Well that explanation might sound like it makes sense, but in reality there is no connection between a rabbit / cow / autobot and the race random. Neutral doesnt mean random, and NOT T/Z/P doesnt mean random either. The idea of having icons for the random players is good, but they have to be self-explanatory. Imagine somebody who's new to the site: He sees a rabbit and thinks "Oh that is a random player" Not really. Again my suggestion would be not to use crittes, but other icons that are clearly associated with randomness, like coins and dice and so. A ranking could be done by using their Laplace-chances: Coin ( 1/2 ) , Dice ( 1/6) 12 Side- Dice (1/12 ) ... to an orb which has a laplace chance of (1/infinity) so to say. | ||
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mavyric
Taiwan104 Posts
Personally I don't think the critters are really representative of Random players.....would prefer the dice and question mark a lot more. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
Definitely a critter could be good here, or, no, actually a Dice would be cool. The biggest problem is that it would be extremely difficult to do the pseudo rank system for random players. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule19028 Posts
On February 21 2011 18:43 deconduo wrote: Easiest thing I can think of is a small gif that switches between the icons of your rank every couple of seconds. So Drone->Probe->SCV->Drone or whatever. No need to come up with some weird thing with dice or critters, makes sense, no need to come up with a new ranking system. Double no. | ||
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Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
Heck yes, and we're already using gifs for mod icons. lol. good idea deconduo | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
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adso
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"... I generally sorted them by size. Larger = better. Except for the Automaton 2000. That is the last critter." The automaton should be the highest decal in any scenario (even dices)...I wholeheartedly agree and cannot stop myself while typing this... Random has no equivalent and while i personally initially preferred the D&D dice approach (i would hate loosing the dice reference), i think loads of randoms might think it dull visually "overall" (only ever having a dice). i also agree that critters are not the best, because they are not as exiting visually as sc2 units (with exceptions). I do love the fact that it's do a ble that way and  thanks again and kudos for the work done) (there are 10 critters, how lucky is that!?). tl gracious mods and admins will only go for something that will work in favor of the members, not something half of the randoms will be put off by, so identifying random players' wishes seems paramount.. Critters (great work ready to go) or dices (with or without variations: coin, whirligig, roulette domino or checks' pieces or even the "orb bit".....), all get my vote (+1 random player wants to be identified as such, in a cool way on cool tl). | ||
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adso
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lil emo
France109 Posts
I'm a sad panda .. I scrolled 15 pages and then stopped .. didn't find it honorably .. had to toolsearch .. me sad for that .. I wish to be aded to the excell file with members wanting a random icon forever (that should be a requirement in my old opinion) we need to be .. let us be tl wholeheartedly please .. pretty please on all your knees .. woups got that wrong somewhere edit:  | ||
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