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Jamial
Denmark1289 Posts
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sirrobert5
United Kingdom62 Posts
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Serashin
235 Posts
However that is fitting regarding "my balance thoughts" currently And that is ment especialy in TvP And if you come now with oGs.MC he just wins allot of matches by playing risky strats that punish greedy terran play. User was warned for this post | ||
kusto
Russian Federation823 Posts
On May 08 2011 19:30 Serashin wrote: I cant remember lately any huge team invites or dominating performance besides from the race Terran (in all mu´s ) , try to prove me wrong . However that is fitting regarding "my balance thoughts" currently And that is ment especialy in TvP And if you come now with oGs.MC he just wins allot of matches by playing risky strats that punish greedy terran play. Nice try plugging in balance whining. Good job Thorzain, good luck in the finals. | ||
Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On May 08 2011 17:23 Xeris wrote: I'm sorry but you can't put Empire and ROOT on the same level. ROOT got 2nd place in Machinima, and won SGL Season 1 and 2, and were 1 game away from making the GCPL playoffs. Empire finished 7th in GCPL. Sure they have players (Kas who is a BEAST) and Nerchio (who has been really really good lately) who perform well in individual events, but ROOT has been a class above Empire in every way. ROOT has proven that they belong in Tier 1 with their results in individual AND team events, Empire only has individual results, which can't really tell you how good of a TEAM they are. RoX has won I believe 2/3 of the seasons of the Russian proleague. That's probably enough to put them in Tier 2 IMO. compLexity is doing really well in CEVO and ESEA, in addition to their individual results. When making this unofficial ranking in my head, I weighted team stuff about 60% and individual stuff 40%. If you look at it like that, I don't see how you can say Empire should be on the same level as ROOT, or how coL and RoX shouldn't be on Tier 2. And Rob -- I wouldn't add Sixjax on there until they accomplish something as a team, or individually, neither of which has happened yet. The ignorance you display in your posts again and again is mindboggling. Its ok if you dont know that much about every team, but in that case you should refrain from doing judgements that make no sense in the end. . Ok Empire did not that good in ONE team league. That was mainly because Naniwa left them. While Kas won basically all his games in the league, Beastyqt lost all. Because in the end these team leagues are very much about individual performances. Since then they have added Nerchio and Happy to their squad. I would say there is noone in europe that wins as much atm as Kas, Happy and Nerchio. That you didnt even mention Happy basically says all about your evaluation of Empire. On top of that there was no 2v2 in GCPL, while there is in the upcoming EG tournament. And Empire has by chance the best 2v2 team in europe with Aristeo/Cubert. So if you want to stress the team aspect, they are indeed extremely strong. In a format with 3 individual players and 1 2v2 team like in the EG tournament, I dont see any team in Europe that has a better squad then Empire. In NA of course not either. Your assessment that Empire is not on the same level as ROOT is nothing but a joke. Although not a funny one when it comes from someone who is that important in the sc2 scene. | ||
Arkhaz
Germany89 Posts
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
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PiRate647
Belgium187 Posts
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m0ck
4194 Posts
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Maliris
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
On May 08 2011 19:48 Redox wrote: The ignorance you display in your posts again and again is mindboggling. Its ok if you dont know that much about every team, but in that case you should refrain from doing judgements that make no sense in the end. . Ok Empire did not that good in ONE team league. That was mainly because Naniwa left them. While Kas won basically all his games in the league, Beastyqt lost all. Because in the end these team leagues are very much about individual performances. Since then they have added Nerchio and Happy to their squad. I would say there is noone in europe that wins as much atm as Kas, Happy and Nerchio. That you didnt even mention Happy basically says all about your evaluation of Empire. On top of that there was no 2v2 in GCPL, while there is in the upcoming EG tournament. And Empire has by chance the best 2v2 team in europe with Aristeo/Cubert. So if you want to stress the team aspect, they are indeed extremely strong. In a format with 3 individual players and 1 2v2 team like in the EG tournament, I dont see any team in Europe that has a better squad then Empire. In NA of course not either. Your assessment that Empire is not on the same level as ROOT is nothing but a joke. Although not a funny one when it comes from someone who is that important in the sc2 scene. Yep pretty much in agreement with this. putting ROOT as a t1 team is especially lol, they have kiwikaki and thats about it. they are american though so may as well put them up there ) | ||
cocosoft
Sweden1068 Posts
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najreteip
Belgium4158 Posts
On May 08 2011 19:48 Redox wrote: The ignorance you display in your posts again and again is mindboggling. Its ok if you dont know that much about every team, but in that case you should refrain from doing judgements that make no sense in the end. . Ok Empire did not that good in ONE team league. That was mainly because Naniwa left them. While Kas won basically all his games in the league, Beastyqt lost all. Because in the end these team leagues are very much about individual performances. Since then they have added Nerchio and Happy to their squad. I would say there is noone in europe that wins as much atm as Kas, Happy and Nerchio. That you didnt even mention Happy basically says all about your evaluation of Empire. On top of that there was no 2v2 in GCPL, while there is in the upcoming EG tournament. And Empire has by chance the best 2v2 team in europe with Aristeo/Cubert. So if you want to stress the team aspect, they are indeed extremely strong. In a format with 3 individual players and 1 2v2 team like in the EG tournament, I dont see any team in Europe that has a better squad then Empire. In NA of course not either. Your assessment that Empire is not on the same level as ROOT is nothing but a joke. Although not a funny one when it comes from someone who is that important in the sc2 scene. Also, don't count out FXO, with Sheth, Moonan, moonglade, optikzero etc... they have a very strong team | ||
SayTT
Sweden2158 Posts
On May 08 2011 15:03 Xeris wrote: In my opinion (this is just my opinion so don't shoot me): Tier 1 Teams: Dignitas Fnatic Liquid Mouz EG ROOT Tier 2 Teams: Empire Millenium RoX MYM compLexity FXO I would say that empire and MYM is better than root | ||
trancey_
Germany729 Posts
On May 08 2011 20:31 SayTT wrote: i'd say the sameI would say that empire and MYM is better than root good luck in mouse Thorzain! | ||
Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On May 08 2011 20:31 SayTT wrote: I would say that empire and MYM is better than root Empire is a very strong team indeed, they deserve a lot more recognition, id put them above EG and Root | ||
busbarn
Sweden984 Posts
here's the brackets for today's IOL, don't think there's any livestream though | ||
SayTT
Sweden2158 Posts
On May 08 2011 20:40 busbarn wrote: http://iol.playdh.com/event/iol-season-33/iol-season-33-lan-finals-sc2/147/#/brackets here's the brackets for today's IOL, don't think there's any livestream though oh that sucks, I hope someone does a stream. | ||
Casablancas
Denmark145 Posts
On May 08 2011 20:31 SayTT wrote: I would say that empire and MYM is better than root Idd as I wrote earlier. Root is getting much attention because they are American but aside from Kiwikaki who maybe is on par with Kas, Nerchio, Happy etc. they dont have any players who have accomplished anything besides high ladder and some online tournament results on the weakest three servers (KR/EU/US). | ||
Eeevil
Netherlands359 Posts
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DailYLeet
Germany827 Posts
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