• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:22
CEST 13:22
KST 20:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy5uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event14Serral wins EWC 202549Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple5SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Lambo Talks: The Future of SC2 and more... uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo) ByuN vs TaeJa Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Global Tourney for College Students in September
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
ASL20 Pre-season Tier List ranking! New season has just come in ladder BW General Discussion BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups
Tourneys
KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI Bitcoin discussion thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 613 users

ThorZaIN joins mousesports - Page 14

Forum Index > SC2 General
402 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 21 Next All
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
May 08 2011 08:23 GMT
#261
On May 08 2011 17:09 Casablancas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 15:03 Xeris wrote:
In my opinion (this is just my opinion so don't shoot me):

Tier 1 Teams:
Dignitas
Fnatic
Liquid
Mouz
EG
ROOT

Tier 2 Teams:
Empire
Millenium
RoX
MYM
compLexity
FXO




I would say that Empire and Root should be in the same tier, and Col. and RoX should not be in tier 2 or you would have to expand that tier a lot.


I'm sorry but you can't put Empire and ROOT on the same level. ROOT got 2nd place in Machinima, and won SGL Season 1 and 2, and were 1 game away from making the GCPL playoffs. Empire finished 7th in GCPL. Sure they have players (Kas who is a BEAST) and Nerchio (who has been really really good lately) who perform well in individual events, but ROOT has been a class above Empire in every way. ROOT has proven that they belong in Tier 1 with their results in individual AND team events, Empire only has individual results, which can't really tell you how good of a TEAM they are.

RoX has won I believe 2/3 of the seasons of the Russian proleague. That's probably enough to put them in Tier 2 IMO. compLexity is doing really well in CEVO and ESEA, in addition to their individual results.

When making this unofficial ranking in my head, I weighted team stuff about 60% and individual stuff 40%. If you look at it like that, I don't see how you can say Empire should be on the same level as ROOT, or how coL and RoX shouldn't be on Tier 2.

And Rob -- I wouldn't add Sixjax on there until they accomplish something as a team, or individually, neither of which has happened yet.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
UnderDuck
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany5 Posts
May 08 2011 08:33 GMT
#262
probably mouz.ThorZain vs mouz.HasuObs in the TSL final. Go Hasu!!! this would mean, that mousesports are the best team^^
.
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
May 08 2011 08:47 GMT
#263
On May 08 2011 15:03 Xeris wrote:
In my opinion (this is just my opinion so don't shoot me):

Tier 1 Teams:
Dignitas
Fnatic
Liquid
Mouz
EG
ROOT

Tier 2 Teams:
Empire
Millenium
RoX
MYM
compLexity
FXO



hmm i think Empire and MYM should be roughly on a lvl with Root. Also if you add coL, FXO or RoX in there u might as well add teams like Sixjax, Virus, Cybernation, Alien Invasion, One, vVv etc.
Tenz
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia106 Posts
May 08 2011 08:47 GMT
#264
mouz obviously has smart management, their roster is scary good ^^ gratz to Thorzain, wish both parties the best of luck!
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
May 08 2011 08:49 GMT
#265
On May 08 2011 17:33 UnderDuck wrote:
probably mouz.ThorZain vs mouz.HasuObs in the TSL final. Go Hasu!!! this would mean, that mousesports are the best team^^


Or it could be ThorZain vs. Naniwa, and that would mean Sweden is awesome.
/commercial
CuriousMoose
Profile Joined January 2011
United States73 Posts
May 08 2011 08:55 GMT
#266
Thorzain is shaping up to be one of my favorite terran players!! Congrats to him AND all of mouz!
Mactator
Profile Joined March 2011
109 Posts
May 08 2011 08:58 GMT
#267
congratz to ThorZain!
Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
May 08 2011 09:00 GMT
#268
Nice! Will be fun to see if thorzain can keep doing well in tournaments.
NaNiwa | Innovation | Flash | DeMuslim ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
sleeepy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada777 Posts
May 08 2011 09:00 GMT
#269
Although I was really rooting for Kas, I'm happy for Thorzain. Must be great to have such a renowned sponsor backing you.
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
May 08 2011 09:15 GMT
#270
oh my god. I just love ThorZaIN and his play so much, and it's going to be so much better for him at LANS, tournaments and stuff, although I still think Prae and NightEnd are still an amazing clan.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
sDzv
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands41 Posts
May 08 2011 09:15 GMT
#271
funny, yesterday i was thinking that Thorzain would probably would join a new team after his success in TSL, and one day later i read this.

GL Thorzain and Mousesports
cubert
Profile Joined June 2010
Russian Federation94 Posts
May 08 2011 09:23 GMT
#272
On May 08 2011 17:23 Xeris wrote:
[
RoX has won I believe 2/3 of the seasons of the Russian proleague. That's probably enough to put them in Tier 2 IMO.

Russian proleague is only for russian players and played much time ago. Lineup there was without our top-players Happy, Nerchio and Beastyqt and rox had their top-line. So RPL isn't so big win.
Mystes
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany42 Posts
May 08 2011 09:27 GMT
#273
I think both, Mouz and Thorzain will benefit from this. It was clearly just a matter of time that a big team would sign him after those matches against MC
vommy
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany532 Posts
May 08 2011 09:28 GMT
#274
Gratz to both Thorzain and Mousesports!
Oh, I'm chasing this guy. [Dodd shoots at Leonard] No... he's chasing me.
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
May 08 2011 09:59 GMT
#275
Grats Thorzain!

Mouz is probably one of the strongest non-korean teams in SC2 right right now.
We make signature, then defense it.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
May 08 2011 10:06 GMT
#276
Good for Thorzain. I don't know how much money mousesports puts into starcraft 2, but they are one of the biggest teams in e-sports as a whole, so hopefully we'll get to see Thorzain at a lot more events.
Valckrie
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom533 Posts
May 08 2011 10:18 GMT
#277
Thorzain is really good so it's a great pickup by mouz!
Fear is a 4 letter word. Why be afraid?
jankke
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland10 Posts
May 08 2011 10:20 GMT
#278
Mousesports sure has got a promising team now!
BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
May 08 2011 10:20 GMT
#279
congratz Thorzain
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
May 08 2011 10:23 GMT
#280
Fun fact:

Thorzain is the only grandmaster player in Europe with 100 win-%

Though he's played a whooping 7 games. Still impressive being grand master within 7 games.
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 21 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Summer Champion…
11:00
Group Stage 1 - Group B
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 88
IndyStarCraft 51
SC2_NightMare 15
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 25829
Rain 16331
Bisu 1352
Larva 891
Jaedong 707
BeSt 377
ggaemo 281
Mini 265
EffOrt 242
Zeus 217
[ Show more ]
Last 176
Rush 145
Hyun 102
ZerO 93
Pusan 89
Aegong 69
Soma 57
Snow 49
Backho 36
sSak 31
sorry 29
TY 27
ToSsGirL 27
Soulkey 26
Icarus 23
Sharp 23
Noble 21
soO 21
yabsab 19
scan(afreeca) 17
SilentControl 16
JulyZerg 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
IntoTheRainbow 13
Bale 12
HiyA 11
Sexy 10
Free 9
zelot 8
Hm[arnc] 6
ivOry 5
Yoon 2
Dota 2
XaKoH 449
XcaliburYe338
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1645
shoxiejesuss610
x6flipin507
allub151
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King80
Other Games
gofns8312
FrodaN2817
singsing1853
B2W.Neo731
DeMusliM294
crisheroes229
Fuzer 125
SortOf91
QueenE30
ZerO(Twitch)5
Organizations
StarCraft 2
WardiTV444
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 24
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta29
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV195
League of Legends
• Jankos645
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
22h 38m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
23h 38m
Replay Cast
1d 12h
LiuLi Cup
1d 23h
Online Event
2 days
SC Evo League
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
CSO Contender
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
[ Show More ]
SC Evo League
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
4 days
RotterdaM Event
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

StarCon 2025 Philadelphia
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.