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Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
May 08 2011 10:25 GMT
#281
I wonder how much that cost Mouse.
Flaf?
sirrobert5
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom62 Posts
May 08 2011 10:27 GMT
#282
congrats to thorzain
Serashin
Profile Joined November 2010
235 Posts
May 08 2011 10:30 GMT
#283
I cant remember lately any huge team invites or dominating performance besides from the race Terran (in all mu´s ) , try to prove me wrong .
However that is fitting regarding "my balance thoughts" currently

And that is ment especialy in TvP

And if you come now with oGs.MC he just wins allot of matches by playing risky strats that punish greedy terran play.

User was warned for this post
There are to many targets , and i smile everytime they try to defend and thinking they are smart.
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
May 08 2011 10:37 GMT
#284
On May 08 2011 19:30 Serashin wrote:
I cant remember lately any huge team invites or dominating performance besides from the race Terran (in all mu´s ) , try to prove me wrong .
However that is fitting regarding "my balance thoughts" currently

And that is ment especialy in TvP

And if you come now with oGs.MC he just wins allot of matches by playing risky strats that punish greedy terran play.



Nice try plugging in balance whining.

Good job Thorzain, good luck in the finals.
the game is the game
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 08 2011 10:48 GMT
#285
On May 08 2011 17:23 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 17:09 Casablancas wrote:
On May 08 2011 15:03 Xeris wrote:
In my opinion (this is just my opinion so don't shoot me):

Tier 1 Teams:
Dignitas
Fnatic
Liquid
Mouz
EG
ROOT

Tier 2 Teams:
Empire
Millenium
RoX
MYM
compLexity
FXO




I would say that Empire and Root should be in the same tier, and Col. and RoX should not be in tier 2 or you would have to expand that tier a lot.


I'm sorry but you can't put Empire and ROOT on the same level. ROOT got 2nd place in Machinima, and won SGL Season 1 and 2, and were 1 game away from making the GCPL playoffs. Empire finished 7th in GCPL. Sure they have players (Kas who is a BEAST) and Nerchio (who has been really really good lately) who perform well in individual events, but ROOT has been a class above Empire in every way. ROOT has proven that they belong in Tier 1 with their results in individual AND team events, Empire only has individual results, which can't really tell you how good of a TEAM they are.

RoX has won I believe 2/3 of the seasons of the Russian proleague. That's probably enough to put them in Tier 2 IMO. compLexity is doing really well in CEVO and ESEA, in addition to their individual results.

When making this unofficial ranking in my head, I weighted team stuff about 60% and individual stuff 40%. If you look at it like that, I don't see how you can say Empire should be on the same level as ROOT, or how coL and RoX shouldn't be on Tier 2.

And Rob -- I wouldn't add Sixjax on there until they accomplish something as a team, or individually, neither of which has happened yet.

The ignorance you display in your posts again and again is mindboggling. Its ok if you dont know that much about every team, but in that case you should refrain from doing judgements that make no sense in the end.
.
Ok Empire did not that good in ONE team league. That was mainly because Naniwa left them. While Kas won basically all his games in the league, Beastyqt lost all. Because in the end these team leagues are very much about individual performances.
Since then they have added Nerchio and Happy to their squad. I would say there is noone in europe that wins as much atm as Kas, Happy and Nerchio. That you didnt even mention Happy basically says all about your evaluation of Empire.

On top of that there was no 2v2 in GCPL, while there is in the upcoming EG tournament. And Empire has by chance the best 2v2 team in europe with Aristeo/Cubert. So if you want to stress the team aspect, they are indeed extremely strong.
In a format with 3 individual players and 1 2v2 team like in the EG tournament, I dont see any team in Europe that has a better squad then Empire. In NA of course not either.

Your assessment that Empire is not on the same level as ROOT is nothing but a joke. Although not a funny one when it comes from someone who is that important in the sc2 scene.

Off-season = best season
Arkhaz
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany89 Posts
May 08 2011 10:58 GMT
#286
sick pickup, grats to both
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
May 08 2011 11:03 GMT
#287
My favourite team acquires monster terran, mouz will be u-n-s-t-!o-p-a-b-l-e
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
PiRate647
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium187 Posts
May 08 2011 11:05 GMT
#288
Yeah, it was obvious some team would enlist him after how he has been performing
"Who always takes a taxi, but never pays a fare?" - "Vegeta!?" ||||exclusively a fan of RET!! .... and perhaps ClouD !
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
May 08 2011 11:05 GMT
#289
Isn't there some swedish tournament being played this afternoon? Sjow, thorzaihn, naniwa etc.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 08 2011 11:07 GMT
#290
On May 08 2011 19:48 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 17:23 Xeris wrote:
On May 08 2011 17:09 Casablancas wrote:
On May 08 2011 15:03 Xeris wrote:
In my opinion (this is just my opinion so don't shoot me):

Tier 1 Teams:
Dignitas
Fnatic
Liquid
Mouz
EG
ROOT

Tier 2 Teams:
Empire
Millenium
RoX
MYM
compLexity
FXO




I would say that Empire and Root should be in the same tier, and Col. and RoX should not be in tier 2 or you would have to expand that tier a lot.


I'm sorry but you can't put Empire and ROOT on the same level. ROOT got 2nd place in Machinima, and won SGL Season 1 and 2, and were 1 game away from making the GCPL playoffs. Empire finished 7th in GCPL. Sure they have players (Kas who is a BEAST) and Nerchio (who has been really really good lately) who perform well in individual events, but ROOT has been a class above Empire in every way. ROOT has proven that they belong in Tier 1 with their results in individual AND team events, Empire only has individual results, which can't really tell you how good of a TEAM they are.

RoX has won I believe 2/3 of the seasons of the Russian proleague. That's probably enough to put them in Tier 2 IMO. compLexity is doing really well in CEVO and ESEA, in addition to their individual results.

When making this unofficial ranking in my head, I weighted team stuff about 60% and individual stuff 40%. If you look at it like that, I don't see how you can say Empire should be on the same level as ROOT, or how coL and RoX shouldn't be on Tier 2.

And Rob -- I wouldn't add Sixjax on there until they accomplish something as a team, or individually, neither of which has happened yet.

The ignorance you display in your posts again and again is mindboggling. Its ok if you dont know that much about every team, but in that case you should refrain from doing judgements that make no sense in the end.
.
Ok Empire did not that good in ONE team league. That was mainly because Naniwa left them. While Kas won basically all his games in the league, Beastyqt lost all. Because in the end these team leagues are very much about individual performances.
Since then they have added Nerchio and Happy to their squad. I would say there is noone in europe that wins as much atm as Kas, Happy and Nerchio. That you didnt even mention Happy basically says all about your evaluation of Empire.

On top of that there was no 2v2 in GCPL, while there is in the upcoming EG tournament. And Empire has by chance the best 2v2 team in europe with Aristeo/Cubert. So if you want to stress the team aspect, they are indeed extremely strong.
In a format with 3 individual players and 1 2v2 team like in the EG tournament, I dont see any team in Europe that has a better squad then Empire. In NA of course not either.

Your assessment that Empire is not on the same level as ROOT is nothing but a joke. Although not a funny one when it comes from someone who is that important in the sc2 scene.


Yep pretty much in agreement with this. putting ROOT as a t1 team is especially lol, they have kiwikaki and thats about it. they are american though so may as well put them up there )
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
May 08 2011 11:13 GMT
#291
Amazing!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
May 08 2011 11:21 GMT
#292
On May 08 2011 19:48 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 17:23 Xeris wrote:
On May 08 2011 17:09 Casablancas wrote:
On May 08 2011 15:03 Xeris wrote:
In my opinion (this is just my opinion so don't shoot me):

Tier 1 Teams:
Dignitas
Fnatic
Liquid
Mouz
EG
ROOT

Tier 2 Teams:
Empire
Millenium
RoX
MYM
compLexity
FXO




I would say that Empire and Root should be in the same tier, and Col. and RoX should not be in tier 2 or you would have to expand that tier a lot.


I'm sorry but you can't put Empire and ROOT on the same level. ROOT got 2nd place in Machinima, and won SGL Season 1 and 2, and were 1 game away from making the GCPL playoffs. Empire finished 7th in GCPL. Sure they have players (Kas who is a BEAST) and Nerchio (who has been really really good lately) who perform well in individual events, but ROOT has been a class above Empire in every way. ROOT has proven that they belong in Tier 1 with their results in individual AND team events, Empire only has individual results, which can't really tell you how good of a TEAM they are.

RoX has won I believe 2/3 of the seasons of the Russian proleague. That's probably enough to put them in Tier 2 IMO. compLexity is doing really well in CEVO and ESEA, in addition to their individual results.

When making this unofficial ranking in my head, I weighted team stuff about 60% and individual stuff 40%. If you look at it like that, I don't see how you can say Empire should be on the same level as ROOT, or how coL and RoX shouldn't be on Tier 2.

And Rob -- I wouldn't add Sixjax on there until they accomplish something as a team, or individually, neither of which has happened yet.

The ignorance you display in your posts again and again is mindboggling. Its ok if you dont know that much about every team, but in that case you should refrain from doing judgements that make no sense in the end.
.
Ok Empire did not that good in ONE team league. That was mainly because Naniwa left them. While Kas won basically all his games in the league, Beastyqt lost all. Because in the end these team leagues are very much about individual performances.
Since then they have added Nerchio and Happy to their squad. I would say there is noone in europe that wins as much atm as Kas, Happy and Nerchio. That you didnt even mention Happy basically says all about your evaluation of Empire.

On top of that there was no 2v2 in GCPL, while there is in the upcoming EG tournament. And Empire has by chance the best 2v2 team in europe with Aristeo/Cubert. So if you want to stress the team aspect, they are indeed extremely strong.
In a format with 3 individual players and 1 2v2 team like in the EG tournament, I dont see any team in Europe that has a better squad then Empire. In NA of course not either.

Your assessment that Empire is not on the same level as ROOT is nothing but a joke. Although not a funny one when it comes from someone who is that important in the sc2 scene.


Also, don't count out FXO, with Sheth, Moonan, moonglade, optikzero etc... they have a very strong team
I have no quote!
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
May 08 2011 11:31 GMT
#293
On May 08 2011 15:03 Xeris wrote:
In my opinion (this is just my opinion so don't shoot me):

Tier 1 Teams:
Dignitas
Fnatic
Liquid
Mouz
EG
ROOT

Tier 2 Teams:
Empire
Millenium
RoX
MYM
compLexity
FXO




I would say that empire and MYM is better than root
-,-
trancey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 11:33:12
May 08 2011 11:32 GMT
#294
On May 08 2011 20:31 SayTT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 15:03 Xeris wrote:
In my opinion (this is just my opinion so don't shoot me):

Tier 1 Teams:
Dignitas
Fnatic
Liquid
Mouz
EG
ROOT

Tier 2 Teams:
Empire
Millenium
RoX
MYM
compLexity
FXO




I would say that empire and MYM is better than root
i'd say the same


good luck in mouse Thorzain!
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
May 08 2011 11:39 GMT
#295
On May 08 2011 20:31 SayTT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 15:03 Xeris wrote:
In my opinion (this is just my opinion so don't shoot me):

Tier 1 Teams:
Dignitas
Fnatic
Liquid
Mouz
EG
ROOT

Tier 2 Teams:
Empire
Millenium
RoX
MYM
compLexity
FXO




I would say that empire and MYM is better than root

Empire is a very strong team indeed, they deserve a lot more recognition, id put them above EG and Root
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busbarn
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden984 Posts
May 08 2011 11:40 GMT
#296
http://iol.playdh.com/event/iol-season-33/iol-season-33-lan-finals-sc2/147/#/brackets

here's the brackets for today's IOL, don't think there's any livestream though
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
May 08 2011 11:43 GMT
#297
On May 08 2011 20:40 busbarn wrote:
http://iol.playdh.com/event/iol-season-33/iol-season-33-lan-finals-sc2/147/#/brackets

here's the brackets for today's IOL, don't think there's any livestream though


oh that sucks, I hope someone does a stream.
-,-
Casablancas
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark145 Posts
May 08 2011 11:43 GMT
#298
On May 08 2011 20:31 SayTT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 15:03 Xeris wrote:
In my opinion (this is just my opinion so don't shoot me):

Tier 1 Teams:
Dignitas
Fnatic
Liquid
Mouz
EG
ROOT

Tier 2 Teams:
Empire
Millenium
RoX
MYM
compLexity
FXO




I would say that empire and MYM is better than root


Idd as I wrote earlier. Root is getting much attention because they are American but aside from Kiwikaki who maybe is on par with Kas, Nerchio, Happy etc. they dont have any players who have accomplished anything besides high ladder and some online tournament results on the weakest three servers (KR/EU/US).
Eeevil
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands359 Posts
May 08 2011 11:43 GMT
#299
Congrats ThorZaIN, hope you'll be tearing things up in the major tournaments.
Dance like a butterfly, sting like an Intercontinental Ballistic Nuclear Missle.
DailYLeet
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany827 Posts
May 08 2011 11:46 GMT
#300
my favourite clan gets thorzain , omg a dream comes true *_*
"King Goody spoke - you have to treat his words like gold , he is the wisest man , who ever crossed the EU server" - Cloud
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