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On May 08 2011 19:30 Serashin wrote:
I cant remember lately any huge team invites or dominating performance besides from the race Terran (in all mu´s ) , try to prove me wrong .
However that is fitting regarding "my balance thoughts" currently

And that is ment especialy in TvP

And if you come now with oGs.MC he just wins allot of matches by playing risky strats that punish greedy terran play.

On May 08 2011 17:23 Xeris wrote:


I'm sorry but you can't put Empire and ROOT on the same level. ROOT got 2nd place in Machinima, and won SGL Season 1 and 2, and were 1 game away from making the GCPL playoffs. Empire finished 7th in GCPL. Sure they have players (Kas who is a BEAST) and Nerchio (who has been really really good lately) who perform well in individual events, but ROOT has been a class above Empire in every way. ROOT has proven that they belong in Tier 1 with their results in individual AND team events, Empire only has individual results, which can't really tell you how good of a TEAM they are.

RoX has won I believe 2/3 of the seasons of the Russian proleague. That's probably enough to put them in Tier 2 IMO. compLexity is doing really well in CEVO and ESEA, in addition to their individual results.

When making this unofficial ranking in my head, I weighted team stuff about 60% and individual stuff 40%. If you look at it like that, I don't see how you can say Empire should be on the same level as ROOT, or how coL and RoX shouldn't be on Tier 2.

And Rob -- I wouldn't add Sixjax on there until they accomplish something as a team, or individually, neither of which has happened yet.

On May 08 2011 19:48 Redox wrote:

The ignorance you display in your posts again and again is mindboggling. Its ok if you dont know that much about every team, but in that case you should refrain from doing judgements that make no sense in the end.
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Ok Empire did not that good in ONE team league. That was mainly because Naniwa left them. While Kas won basically all his games in the league, Beastyqt lost all. Because in the end these team leagues are very much about individual performances.
Since then they have added Nerchio and Happy to their squad. I would say there is noone in europe that wins as much atm as Kas, Happy and Nerchio. That you didnt even mention Happy basically says all about your evaluation of Empire.

On top of that there was no 2v2 in GCPL, while there is in the upcoming EG tournament. And Empire has by chance the best 2v2 team in europe with Aristeo/Cubert. So if you want to stress the team aspect, they are indeed extremely strong.
In a format with 3 individual players and 1 2v2 team like in the EG tournament, I dont see any team in Europe that has a better squad then Empire. In NA of course not either.

Your assessment that Empire is not on the same level as ROOT is nothing but a joke. Although not a funny one when it comes from someone who is that important in the sc2 scene.

On May 08 2011 19:48 Redox wrote:

The ignorance you display in your posts again and again is mindboggling. Its ok if you dont know that much about every team, but in that case you should refrain from doing judgements that make no sense in the end.
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Ok Empire did not that good in ONE team league. That was mainly because Naniwa left them. While Kas won basically all his games in the league, Beastyqt lost all. Because in the end these team leagues are very much about individual performances.
Since then they have added Nerchio and Happy to their squad. I would say there is noone in europe that wins as much atm as Kas, Happy and Nerchio. That you didnt even mention Happy basically says all about your evaluation of Empire.

On top of that there was no 2v2 in GCPL, while there is in the upcoming EG tournament. And Empire has by chance the best 2v2 team in europe with Aristeo/Cubert. So if you want to stress the team aspect, they are indeed extremely strong.
In a format with 3 individual players and 1 2v2 team like in the EG tournament, I dont see any team in Europe that has a better squad then Empire. In NA of course not either.

Your assessment that Empire is not on the same level as ROOT is nothing but a joke. Although not a funny one when it comes from someone who is that important in the sc2 scene.

On May 08 2011 15:03 Xeris wrote:
In my opinion (this is just my opinion so don't shoot me):

Tier 1 Teams:
Dignitas
Fnatic
Liquid
Mouz
EG
ROOT

Tier 2 Teams:
Empire
Millenium
RoX
MYM
compLexity
FXO

On May 08 2011 20:31 SayTT wrote:


I would say that empire and MYM is better than root

On May 08 2011 20:31 SayTT wrote:


I would say that empire and MYM is better than root

On May 08 2011 20:40 busbarn wrote:
http://iol.playdh.com/event/iol-season-33/iol-season-33-lan-finals-sc2/147/#/brackets

here's the brackets for today's IOL, don't think there's any livestream though

On May 08 2011 20:31 SayTT wrote:


I would say that empire and MYM is better than root