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Nic44
Profile Joined March 2011
France7 Posts
May 08 2011 16:00 GMT
#321
congratz to both !
Arc1
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland849 Posts
May 08 2011 16:14 GMT
#322
http://praetoriani.nl/index.php?site=news_comments&newsID=55&ws_session=60l2vbd6kfn7h8ufk8e29dp436 oh my
Nothing to add.
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
May 08 2011 16:15 GMT
#323
On May 09 2011 00:21 KingVietKong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 19:48 Redox wrote:
On May 08 2011 17:23 Xeris wrote:
On May 08 2011 17:09 Casablancas wrote:
On May 08 2011 15:03 Xeris wrote:
In my opinion (this is just my opinion so don't shoot me):

Tier 1 Teams:
Dignitas
Fnatic
Liquid
Mouz
EG
ROOT

Tier 2 Teams:
Empire
Millenium
RoX
MYM
compLexity
FXO




I would say that Empire and Root should be in the same tier, and Col. and RoX should not be in tier 2 or you would have to expand that tier a lot.


I'm sorry but you can't put Empire and ROOT on the same level. ROOT got 2nd place in Machinima, and won SGL Season 1 and 2, and were 1 game away from making the GCPL playoffs. Empire finished 7th in GCPL. Sure they have players (Kas who is a BEAST) and Nerchio (who has been really really good lately) who perform well in individual events, but ROOT has been a class above Empire in every way. ROOT has proven that they belong in Tier 1 with their results in individual AND team events, Empire only has individual results, which can't really tell you how good of a TEAM they are.

RoX has won I believe 2/3 of the seasons of the Russian proleague. That's probably enough to put them in Tier 2 IMO. compLexity is doing really well in CEVO and ESEA, in addition to their individual results.

When making this unofficial ranking in my head, I weighted team stuff about 60% and individual stuff 40%. If you look at it like that, I don't see how you can say Empire should be on the same level as ROOT, or how coL and RoX shouldn't be on Tier 2.

And Rob -- I wouldn't add Sixjax on there until they accomplish something as a team, or individually, neither of which has happened yet.

The ignorance you display in your posts again and again is mindboggling. Its ok if you dont know that much about every team, but in that case you should refrain from doing judgements that make no sense in the end.
.
Ok Empire did not that good in ONE team league. That was mainly because Naniwa left them. While Kas won basically all his games in the league, Beastyqt lost all. Because in the end these team leagues are very much about individual performances.
Since then they have added Nerchio and Happy to their squad. I would say there is noone in europe that wins as much atm as Kas, Happy and Nerchio. That you didnt even mention Happy basically says all about your evaluation of Empire.

On top of that there was no 2v2 in GCPL, while there is in the upcoming EG tournament. And Empire has by chance the best 2v2 team in europe with Aristeo/Cubert. So if you want to stress the team aspect, they are indeed extremely strong.
In a format with 3 individual players and 1 2v2 team like in the EG tournament, I dont see any team in Europe that has a better squad then Empire. In NA of course not either.

Your assessment that Empire is not on the same level as ROOT is nothing but a joke. Although not a funny one when it comes from someone who is that important in the sc2 scene.



I like how you open your post mainly with an attack on Xeris, and then end with the same. Definitely makes your point more legitimate.

Empire definitely has some beastly players, and so does ROOT, but while Xeris mentioned several results to back his post up you only mentioned potential results that may occur in the near future. I agree with a lot of your opinions here, but for the most part we have to wait until those results come in definitively. Besides, why begrudge someone their own list of good teams?

because his opinion determines what teams get invited to leagues
"Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines."
uuurbAn
Profile Joined November 2010
United States16 Posts
May 08 2011 16:18 GMT
#324
Was it his showing in the TSL which got this in motion, or just his play in general?

Either way its good for both sides, can't wait to see if he gets a trip to Korea!!
PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
May 08 2011 16:21 GMT
#325
gl ThorZaIN.
http://twitter.com/lagcats
Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 16:32:04
May 08 2011 16:31 GMT
#326
This makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. It's like the American (European) dream. Nobody gave this guy a chance and he worked his ass off and is steamrolling his way through the biggest online tournament ever (even if it's not, let's just go with it). IMO mouz is as good as it gets.

Congrats.
Apologize.
BlACKTrA
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany187 Posts
May 08 2011 16:35 GMT
#327
it will be quiet funny if both mouz player will face in the finals
hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
May 08 2011 16:35 GMT
#328
sad to see prae clan close down
but gl to thorzain and nightend in the future
Esports bubble pop, bubble pop
ViperaViRuS
Profile Joined May 2011
United States82 Posts
May 08 2011 16:39 GMT
#329
On May 09 2011 01:31 Neo.NEt wrote:
This makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. It's like the American (European) dream. Nobody gave this guy a chance and he worked his ass off and is steamrolling his way through the biggest online tournament ever (even if it's not, let's just go with it). IMO mouz is as good as it gets.

Congrats.


I agreed with everything up until "mouz is as good as it gets" and I do realize your statement of in my opinion. So I'm not disagreeing with your opinion so much as would like clarification as to why you make that statement?

Congrats and good luck to ThorZain and Mouz; I see great thing for the future of Mouz sports.
"CHILL GET OUT" -NaNiwa
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
May 08 2011 16:41 GMT
#330
very awesome. hopefully we can see him playing more now
champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends.
starcraft2rush
Profile Joined February 2011
306 Posts
May 08 2011 16:45 GMT
#331
congrats thorzain and mousesports. sorry Praetoriani
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
May 08 2011 17:03 GMT
#332
too bad, i really liked praetoriani. But why did nightend and thorzain go separate ways?
dr Helvetica <3
F u r u y a
Profile Joined August 2010
Brazil173 Posts
May 08 2011 17:07 GMT
#333
On May 08 2011 19:48 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 17:23 Xeris wrote:
On May 08 2011 17:09 Casablancas wrote:
On May 08 2011 15:03 Xeris wrote:
In my opinion (this is just my opinion so don't shoot me):

Tier 1 Teams:
Dignitas
Fnatic
Liquid
Mouz
EG
ROOT

Tier 2 Teams:
Empire
Millenium
RoX
MYM
compLexity
FXO




I would say that Empire and Root should be in the same tier, and Col. and RoX should not be in tier 2 or you would have to expand that tier a lot.


I'm sorry but you can't put Empire and ROOT on the same level. ROOT got 2nd place in Machinima, and won SGL Season 1 and 2, and were 1 game away from making the GCPL playoffs. Empire finished 7th in GCPL. Sure they have players (Kas who is a BEAST) and Nerchio (who has been really really good lately) who perform well in individual events, but ROOT has been a class above Empire in every way. ROOT has proven that they belong in Tier 1 with their results in individual AND team events, Empire only has individual results, which can't really tell you how good of a TEAM they are.

RoX has won I believe 2/3 of the seasons of the Russian proleague. That's probably enough to put them in Tier 2 IMO. compLexity is doing really well in CEVO and ESEA, in addition to their individual results.

When making this unofficial ranking in my head, I weighted team stuff about 60% and individual stuff 40%. If you look at it like that, I don't see how you can say Empire should be on the same level as ROOT, or how coL and RoX shouldn't be on Tier 2.

And Rob -- I wouldn't add Sixjax on there until they accomplish something as a team, or individually, neither of which has happened yet.

The ignorance you display in your posts again and again is mindboggling. Its ok if you dont know that much about every team, but in that case you should refrain from doing judgements that make no sense in the end.
.
Ok Empire did not that good in ONE team league. That was mainly because Naniwa left them. While Kas won basically all his games in the league, Beastyqt lost all. Because in the end these team leagues are very much about individual performances.
Since then they have added Nerchio and Happy to their squad. I would say there is noone in europe that wins as much atm as Kas, Happy and Nerchio. That you didnt even mention Happy basically says all about your evaluation of Empire.

On top of that there was no 2v2 in GCPL, while there is in the upcoming EG tournament. And Empire has by chance the best 2v2 team in europe with Aristeo/Cubert. So if you want to stress the team aspect, they are indeed extremely strong.
In a format with 3 individual players and 1 2v2 team like in the EG tournament, I dont see any team in Europe that has a better squad then Empire. In NA of course not either.

Your assessment that Empire is not on the same level as ROOT is nothing but a joke. Although not a funny one when it comes from someone who is that important in the sc2 scene.


I would say that Aristeo/Cubert is easily the best in EU (possibly the best in the world). That duo is unbelievably good! And that's not "potential results that may occur in the near future", KingVietKong, just check their 4PL results (and ladder profile aswell). They're gods of 2v2

So far, in the running Go4SC2 #103, Kas and Happy made to the semi-finals (Kas is yet to play) and Aristeo to the quarter-finals. By the way, just check last TL Tournament Roundup, Happy and Nerchio tied for the first place with three 1st places and one 2nd place.

I believe is quite safe to say that Empire and ROOT indeed aren't in the same level, there are already some results out there that proves it.
Zion9
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Romania347 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 17:10:43
May 08 2011 17:07 GMT
#334
NightEnd mentioned in the goodbye Post on Praetoriani.com that most probably he will join the world's biggest organization. Im really curious what could be this ?


EDIT - http://www.fnatic.com/news/8764/NightEnD-Joins-FnaticMSI-SC2.html

+ Show Spoiler +
NightEnd joins fnaticMSI
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ SlayerS_MMA| Taeja | ThorZain and Naama Fan!!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 17:10:56
May 08 2011 17:09 GMT
#335
On May 09 2011 02:07 Zion9 wrote:
NightEnd mentioned in the goodbye Post on Praetoriani.com that most probably he will join the world's biggest organization. Im really curious what could be this ?


Fnatic.
http://www.fnatic.com/news/8764/NightEnD-Joins-FnaticMSI-SC2.html
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220755
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
May 08 2011 17:17 GMT
#336
sweet, grats thorzain
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
May 08 2011 17:29 GMT
#337
On May 09 2011 02:07 Zion9 wrote:
NightEnd mentioned in the goodbye Post on Praetoriani.com that most probably he will join the world's biggest organization. Im really curious what could be this ?


EDIT - http://www.fnatic.com/news/8764/NightEnD-Joins-FnaticMSI-SC2.html

+ Show Spoiler +
NightEnd joins fnaticMSI


Damn, this isn't looking good for Praetoriani
climax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1088 Posts
May 08 2011 17:47 GMT
#338
Great pickup by mousesports and Congrats to Thorzain.
Glad to see Nightend got picked up by FnaticMSI.

I am sad though that Prae is shutting down though.
Twitter: @JonathanRosales
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
May 08 2011 17:54 GMT
#339
On May 09 2011 02:29 Zeroxk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 02:07 Zion9 wrote:
NightEnd mentioned in the goodbye Post on Praetoriani.com that most probably he will join the world's biggest organization. Im really curious what could be this ?


EDIT - http://www.fnatic.com/news/8764/NightEnD-Joins-FnaticMSI-SC2.html

+ Show Spoiler +
NightEnd joins fnaticMSI


Damn, this isn't looking good for Praetoriani


seems they have closed down
MrBoysen
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden13 Posts
May 08 2011 17:56 GMT
#340
Congratulation ThorZaIN!! Gogo Sweden!
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