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On October 17 2010 12:31 KhrisKruel wrote: I like how when people get suspected for not posting they suddenly show up. Thegilaboy first, now yummyblabla
Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing. And it's a matter of minutes lol.
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On October 17 2010 12:35 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 12:31 KhrisKruel wrote: I like how when people get suspected for not posting they suddenly show up. Thegilaboy first, now yummyblabla Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing. And it's a matter of minutes lol.
Actually it's an hour, and I came on so I could do some mafia before PL comes on tonight in 20 minutes!
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I guess we have about 20minutes to find out the truth =o
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The person above me is Lucktar. He has a picture of a polar bear in his profile that could possibly have something to do with the clue of a guy getting clawed. He has posted 7 times.
(1) He suggested a small possibility that Vendril's profile could have to do with the clue of Incognito's death. (2) Wasted a post mentioning spamming. (3) On October 12 2010 07:29 Lucktar wrote:Kind of hilarious how much people try to read into everything that's said here. I suppose it makes sense, it just kinda surprised me. That being said, it seems that until the first night, we don't really have any information to work with. So whether we lynch Masq or Veldril or coag or whoever, it's pretty much a blind guess. Seems that the blues would be pretty reluctant to make any moves toward finding each other/townies yet, but perhaps not. The only people who strike me as having a great deal of incentive to post would be the mafia/vamps, to try to stir the pot and get people jabbing at each other. My analysis might be way off, but hopefully it's at least somewhat useful. I'm sure somebody will decide that this fingers me as scum, but whatever. They'll probably say that mentioning somebody accusing me is trying to preempt that, too. Oh god, everything I say just makes it worse. Owel, I'm noobie at this, and reading all the paranoid back-and forth is fun. Stated that it's "pretty much a blind guess" before the first night. Does not really say much of anything but still types stuff. This might be because he wants to just throw some stuff into the forum that could confuse or make people second guess things. Or maybe he just is acknowledging that the town does not know much before the first night.
(4) Once again says the town does not have much to go on. He says it does not matter much if we lynch Vendril or Masq and goes on to say Pandain has a good point that about Heaven on Earth (but does not say what point). He then explains why he finds Mill Murray's aggressive style suspicious.
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On October 14 2010 15:18 Lucktar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 14:37 LastArgument wrote:I would like to bring back the clue analysis I made on day 1 for fresh eyes to see On October 12 2010 15:10 LastArgument wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Day 1 Clues
People who link to Qatol’s death
#1 Shmotz Ah, computer dating. It's like pimping, but you rarely have to use the phrase "upside your head." - Bender
Is a quote from Shmotz’ profile. I am using it to link him to the death of qatol based on this bolded area
Qatol turned around to defend himself but was met with a hammer. The silver instrument bashed his skull to pieces and the tall figure laughed maniacally as Qatols head crumbled into dust.
#2 Glasse Has a picture of Kirby in his profile picture, and Kirby is holding a mallet/hammer.
Links to the same quote as shmotz
#3 Metalface Picture of dr doom in his profile
Would also reference to the same method of killing.
For these three cases of qatol’s killer, #1 an #3 would laugh at the death, however #1 would have the most fitting laugh.
As such I believe based on the low amount of clues we have thus far, Shmotz killed Qatol.
I know typically from reading a bit of a few games involving clues before that day 1 clues aren't usually solid. However, I was thinking, since there are 22 mafia this game, perhaps the day 1 clues weren't as obscure. I could be wrong, but so far most of the posting has been on the guilt of two players, and i wanted a bit more information to be discussed. As for todays analysis I will start with NB's killer He drank something and froze and as such I think the freezing part is more likely to be a clue as it seems a rarer find. As such I guess that http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=LucktarIs most likely the killer as his profile picture shows a block of ice around apples (stuff frozen within the ice) and a bear going after it. This seems the best connection I can find on a quick glance through everyones profile. Divinek's profile also mentions hockey (ice rink), but he seems less connected. Hmm, fair enough, though my pic doesn't have anything liquid as in the death description, so all you've got to go on is 'NB froze... cold... ice is cold... Lucktar!' But I'd say that whether I was scum or not. I haven't been hugely active in the thread, but I don't think I've said anything that would indicate that I'm scum, but we'll see. Not sure how to rebut a clue-based accusation other than with 'that's stupid clue analysis.' Not incredibly compelling. But whatever, take from it what you will. Lucktar gets defensive when people accuse he might be linked to a clue.
(6) Notes that with everyone voting for Vendril, it would be obvious for vampires if they were to vote for someone else.
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On October 17 2010 10:45 Lucktar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 10:33 CubEdIn wrote: Yeah, and ever since I posted it seems that aztro went back into the lab to cook up some other way of screwing with the townies, because he went from spam to absolute silence. Well, he was threatened with a modkill. I honestly have no idea what to make of aztrorisk. The code seems contrived and stupid, but if it's really a red attempt to screw with the town, it seems pretty clumsy to me. I can't imagine reds discussing in IRC how they're going to sow disinformation through the town by posting easily-broken codes naming random conspirators. But that's just me. I'm guessing aztrorisk is an actual JoL, who doesn't really know the game, and therefore just tries to make things interesting for himself by posting bizarre stuff. See his JoL roleclaim back on day 0, and this whole code nonsense. Does that make it a bad idea to lynch him? I honestly have no idea. If he's red, awesome. If he's JoL, then he's been serious all this time, and who fucking knows who he'd have put the bombs on. If he's green, well, he's just an attention whore and good riddance. States that he has no idea what to think about Aztrorisk. He also says the whole code thing was dumb.
Overall, there seems to be no strong evidence Lucktar is a vampire or mafia, but then again it would not be a huge surprise. The three quotes I used from him are the ones taking a look at. He does throw out a few useless posts maybe to just not look suspicious. He gets (maybe overly) defensive when he is accused of being scum (5). I can't seem to make any real conclusions about Lucktar but I broke it down so that everyone can make their own judgments.
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The meowing is the clue, not the claws.
A mad scientist breadcrumbed in the thread. I'm not going to point it out though in case the scum didn't see it. I hope this post doesn't get him killed.
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On October 17 2010 06:42 jodogohoo wrote: I still think kenpachi is red. Why? because he hasn't posted in FOREVER I THINK YOUR RED FOR THINKING IM RED BECAUSE I HAVENT POSTED IN FOREVER.
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Glurio, I suspect you of being a mafia, do you have a respond to this?
I also think your lurking is very suspicious
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Player above me: glurio
I think everyone knows him as he is essentially the player that replaced Bill Murray. He essentially has only 2 post so far. I think that might be to make up for the fact of how BM played the game as to keep attention away from him.
On October 14 2010 01:36 glurio wrote: Good day, i'm replacing BM. I hope his actions wont reflect on me.
So far i do agree with NB. If Veldril lives through the night we should lynch him. But i still have to read stuff a bit more careful, will take me some time.
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On October 14 2010 19:09 glurio wrote: I really can't justify any of BM's actions, I don't know how he could, if true, accumulate so many PMs. One would think I would receive some PMs from people that stood in contact with BM, so far not even a handful of people have contacted me. Also I'd like to point out something from last night, it's the reason im going to vote for Veldril. He being a Vampire is nearly confirmed, it's a sure kill which will bring down the killing power of the Vamps by 1. Show nested quote +On October 14 2010 10:29 Coagulation wrote: On October 13 2010 16:23 Veldril wrote: And Masq turns out to be a vampire... If you guys are so worried about me, role check me if you want. You can even plant a bogeyman to spy whether someone visit me or not to. However, I think that some people are now 100% sure of my role right now. Remember that town wants to reduce the number of vampire and mafia gradually and have their number similar to each other. Moreover, Mafia now would want to use town vote to kill me more than dirty their own hands. Lynching me now would only help strengthen Mafia. All in all, reserve your judgment until day 2. There's going to be a lot of killing this night. o shit i missed that .. o well i didnt have much doubt about it anyway Votes for Vedril, the same person that BM was trying to incriminate. This does not really tell me much as nearly everyone except for a few people voted for vedril.
I'll also do a short analysis on BM as he replaced him.
From the beginning BM seems focused on one person: Vedril. Even though everyone was voting for masq, he kept trying to turn the attention to Vedril.
On October 11 2010 15:41 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 14:50 Lucktar wrote:On October 11 2010 14:46 oddo123 wrote: Veldril's public profile:
My body is made out of swords. I have a blood of Fire and a heart of Glass. I have fought through countless battles. Never once retreating. Never once being victorious. The bearer lies here alone, forging iron on the hill of swords.
But my life needs no meaning. My whole life was made out of unlimited swords. Regarding Incognito's death: As he turned the corner around a bookshelf a dagger pierced his heart. As he died he could feel cold steel pierce his body from every direction, ending his life cruelly. Body made of swords is the only thing I've found so far that seems to relate to this bit. PLUS THIS right after. WE got this guy. Veldril is mafia/vampire.
On October 11 2010 15:45 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 15:11 Veldril wrote: Another thing is that are we too readily to blame Masq for the kill? The evidence is quite obvious but it could be too obvious sometimes. We need to be a little bit more careful about voting. Defense of Masq is noted if you flip scum. This is really, really nice. If he is town, masq is null and we can scumhunt tomorrow, whereas if Veldril is scum Masq is scum. This makes me ok lynching either of them. He says he is ok with lynching either of them but still passionately focuses on Vedril.
On October 11 2010 16:18 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 16:05 NB wrote:is that just me or 2 pages ago, someone suggested to vote for masq and 2 or 3 people stand out(most noticed is Veldril) and defend him?is that mean they are on the same team? again, in this game if im correct, only town people dont know who the rest are, mafia/vampire know their teamees right? about the crazy pictures: if you guys have noticed, the content of the clue have not changed much since the 1st content which was canceled since there was a mistake... Most people profile have not changed during that period of time so using "Pictures" in the profile pages does not guarantee anything. And Yes, im defending it bc i have a "crazed smile" picture in my profile but it was from kingdom heart 4 or 5 years ago ... and kingdom heart is cute :3... in response to bolded, yes. Masq defended Veldril, too. They defended each other. It is a mistake on their part. Yes. Town are uninformed. Mafia know mafia. Vampires know vampires. Honestly, I didn't even read the day posts. I focus more on scouring posts than beating my head into walls of clues. Says he doesn't focus on clues but he quoted a post that links veldril to a clue earlier.
After BM's series of posts against vedril, a lot of people voted for vedril. Most of the people like kenpachi and other people who didn't post in thread but only voted, bandwagoned on vedril.
On October 13 2010 03:29 Bill Murray wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On October 13 2010 02:47 kingjames01 wrote: This game is crazy. There's too much going on and too many players.
Everyone needs to remember: - Vampires know who the other vampires are - Mafia members know who the other mafia are - Only Town doesn't know anything - There are 39 Town-aligned players
If there's a bandwagon against someone and everyone starts to join, it ALWAYS benefits the Vampires/Mafia if they know that person doesn't belong to the same team. So slow down and consider that you're probably voting to kill a Green or a Blue.
If someone finds a clue in a profile, ask yourself: Did that person check EVERYONE? Did YOU check EVERYONE? If not, you are not doing your due diligence and are going to get innocents killed. The people who are leading the bandwagons ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. Those are the people you should be suspicious of.
"Oh guess what everyone? I just found another clue and that means X is guilty. Let's lynch him."
If he flips Green/Blue - "Oh, he's Green/Blue? My mistake!" otherwise he'll flip whichever Red team he's not on, "Oh he's Vampire/Mafia? Great, see? I'm helping!"
Evaluate the evidence for yourself before you jump on a bandwagon.
As for my vote it goes to Veldril for all of his inconsistencies in the game so far. He's playing like he has information to hide and he's hoping he won't get caught.
This post from kingjames01 is a complete contradiction i am voting him for this his post = "guys, don't bandwagon blindly" into "i'm gonna vote veldril on weak reasons" because he wants to bandwagon He argued with a lot of people and accused other people.
In terms of voting he kept changing his vote to anyone that argues with him. From Coagulation<Vedril<orgolove<vedril<kingjames<pandain and so on
Glurio hasn't posted much because of Bill Murray's erratic behavior from before. BM caused a lot of chaos when he was posting and basically after he entered the thread, he divided the attention into masq and vedril. Masq turned out to be vampire and vedril turned out to be innocent. Although he focused on vedril, he also seems to attack everyone.
I cannot really tell if he just saw vedril as a weak victim to make the villagers bandwagon on him or really just thought he was red. If he is red, he is most likely a vampire. All in all I think 50% chance of him being red. Nothing conclusive though.
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Well he made a convincing argument too. Had to respond strongly.
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On October 17 2010 12:56 glurio wrote: Yes, I'm not mafia.
it's like magic
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Yeah, it's like if you call someone and they answer. Magical.
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Alright i am posting this here as i am not sure if i will live through the night post. Posting this shortly before the announcement so they can't change their votes and kill a blue.
I am boogeyman, i was hit the first night and did not die. I watched coagulation he did not leave and he was not visited.
You guys should analyse clues as much as possible, it helped me find masq, which was indeed a vampire.
It might be because i'm new but i feel like for the most part my role depends on luck. Be on the right person at the right time. Which is kind of hard to do with this many players. If someone leaves and a clue relates to him well it most likely is a red, if someone leaves and there is 1 less kills than there should be, he could be a ghost. He could also be pretty much anything else and the ghost was someone else. Of course watching someone you believe not to be red is probably your best bet as the red might not be one of the night's killers. If he does an action you can pm him if you trust him enough and ask. This is how i made my choices.
I feel like this role could be much more effective with fewer players.
If i am not dead after night post, oh well, ill be dead next time Now you know. I will reveal who I investigated tonight if i did not die
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you should reveal it now, it's too late to change
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On October 17 2010 13:07 KhrisKruel wrote: you should reveal it now, it's too late to change I don't think he has gotten any information on his visit yet.
Still I don't get why you would reveal your role? :/
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end is ending right?
anyway
doesnt matter if i say it or not, i cant give you info about him anyway as i will get it after im dead or w/e
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The tension is killing me!
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come on, DrH, have some mercy on the guys being up still at 7 am
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