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Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 17 2010 01:59 GMT
#2021
player above me : aztrorisk

analysis : FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
October 17 2010 02:00 GMT
#2022
player above me: glasse
analysis: LOL FRENCH CANADIAN

;D
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
October 17 2010 02:01 GMT
#2023
ROFL Glasse

Just as clarification: not saying that thegilaboy is mafia, it's just ONE post that seems to be rather incriminating. That's why I'm only 60% sure he's red (mafia).

I'd still rather see Aztrorisk go.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 17 2010 02:02 GMT
#2024
On October 17 2010 11:00 annul wrote:
player above me: glasse
analysis: LOL FRENCH CANADIAN

;D


seriously can you stop that...?
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
October 17 2010 02:02 GMT
#2025
Pandain, I've always thought that you seemed like, at the very least, you knew what was going on. Your posts have been significantly more constructive than, say, Aztrorisk's. Who I'm just confused about. More on him in a moment.

I may be making a huge mistake, but I think it would be altogether beneficial to the town if Pandain remained among the living. Even if he is red, he's done a lot more to keep the town level-headed than pretty much anyone else.

It makes me laugh to think that the vampires / mafia would actually want to target Aztrorisk. He has done virtually nothing to help the town, and at this point is only sowing discord and pointless suspicion with his silly codes and baseless accusations. That's not to say that suspicion is a bad thing, but that suspicion without rationality behind it can only turn us against each other. If the ghosts are listening to this, please don't save his stupid ass.
whole lies with a half smile
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
October 17 2010 02:02 GMT
#2026
On October 17 2010 11:02 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 11:00 annul wrote:
player above me: glasse
analysis: LOL FRENCH CANADIAN

;D


seriously can you stop that...?


After he said that, I went and took a look at your profile.

LIKE TO WIELD SILVERY HAMMERS MUCH?
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 17 2010 02:05 GMT
#2027
thats wood and white stop picking on kirby
KhrisKruel
Profile Joined August 2010
United States146 Posts
October 17 2010 02:26 GMT
#2028
The person above me in the list is chesshaha.

He's only posted once in the thread, to tell aztrorisk he's playing a dangerous game, and voted for glurio at the beginning of the day.
Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. ~Buddha
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 17 2010 02:34 GMT
#2029
Person above me ghrur
he has 4 post's as far as i can tell

analysis
On October 14 2010 08:08 ghrur wrote:
Hey guys, glad to join the game. I'll try and read through it when I get more free time. For the moment, however, good job on killing a red the first lynch. ^_^ Pretty darn amazing.


On October 16 2010 11:19 ghrur wrote:
Voting for Veldril because of bandwagon. Wasting my vote this way so I won't make uninformed decisions and I avoid mod-killing. No time this week until now. only 73 pages to go for me! :D


On October 17 2010 08:46 ghrur wrote:
Guys, ignore the self-claimed JoL. His code is simply being confusing right now. We can worry about it when he dies.
If he dies and it is decoded: we decided if we should trust it or not based on the decoder and his role (which we get WHEN he dies)
If he dies and it isn't decoded: we forget about it.
If he doesn't die: we don't care and forget about it. Sounds good?



On October 17 2010 08:50 ghrur wrote:
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On October 17 2010 08:47 Glasse wrote:
On October 17 2010 08:46 ghrur wrote:
Guys, ignore the self-claimed JoL. His code is simply being confusing right now. We can worry about it when he dies.
If he dies and it is decoded: we decided if we should trust it or not based on the decoder and his role (which we get WHEN he dies)
If he dies and it isn't decoded: we forget about it.
If he doesn't die: we don't care and forget about it. Sounds good?


the thing is its probably an alpha encrypted code (unless hes dumb and actually made a chart with each letter = what) so if the guy that says it doesnt post the key, just don't believe it.


Yeah, basically ignore it.
I mean, when he posted it, I personally thought it was just a move to confuse the town. =/


he voted one time
On October 16 2010 11:21 ghrur wrote:
##Vote Veldril


nothing much going on here I dunno if hes defending Aztrorisk or trying to cover up the questionable message that he posted but its not very conclusive to anything other than he thinks Aztrorisk should be ignored like 90% of everyone else thinks.

Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
October 17 2010 02:42 GMT
#2030
On October 17 2010 10:34 Pandain wrote:everyone analyze the person who's just before them on the sign up list


All right, I guess I'll give this a shot. The guy before me is Yogy, one of the most inactive players in the game. He's posted in the voting thread three times, and each vote has been with the bandwagon. The third vote was voting for Veldril a second time in the same day... maybe he just forgot he posted the first time? Dunno, but it's not anything that conclusions can be drawn on.

As far as I can tell, none of the clues really support him as red. The possible clues from his profile would relate to surfing, photography, water, waves, maybe something StarCraft-y. I don't think any of the clues point towards any of that.

Interestingly enough, none other than Veldril cast suspicious on this guy. Seeing as Veldril turned up green... who knows?

Here are the two posts that Yogy has made in this thread. The second post is responding to accusations that Veldril made:

On October 13 2010 01:41 Yogy wrote:
I've been pretty inactive in posting I confess, new to this and trying to get the hang of it. No one has been telling me what to do or who to vote to lynch, I've come to that decision myself.




On October 15 2010 10:19 Yogy wrote:
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Now let me presented a possible Mafia player that we should vote for today: Yogy

The reasons that we should lynch this person are:

1. He voted Masq without posting anything before. If he's Mafia, then he would know that Masq is not on his team. Voting Masq, whom the clue implied to be a killer, would be the best vote to get rid of a vampire.



So you want to vote me to be lynched because I voted for someone that the clue implicated?

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2. Later, he came up with this post:

On October 13 2010 01:41 Yogy wrote:
I've been pretty inactive in posting I confess, new to this and trying to get the hang of it. No one has been telling me what to do or who to vote to lynch, I've come to that decision myself.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6572368

Why would someone tell that there's no one telling him what to do or vote if he acted independently? If he indeed acted independently, he should have a reason why he voted for Masq, may it be he is so sure about the clue or else. Moreover, he posted this after someone compile the number of posts each player made. For me, it is very suspicious.



With all the talk of people hopping on the bandwagon I thought it'd be wise to say I wasn't being led. I was one of the early few who voted on Masq, and I voted him because I felt the clue was obvious enough to pick a first day lynch.

Show nested quote +


3. He is always inactive. Except the post I quote above, he make no other posts at all. By voting him right now would force him to be more active and we could get more information out of him that would benefit town.



I've been inactive in the conversations because like I said, I'm new. Would rather wade in the shallow waters instead of diving headfirst into the deep-end.


He is right about being one of the first to vote for Masq. This makes it very unlikely that he is a vampire. There's no reasoning for his voting Veldril, though. Since it was widely believed that Veldril is a vampire, there's still a pretty decent chance that Yogy is mafia. All in all, I can't draw any conclusions from his posts alone. He's got a grand total of seven posts on Team Liquid, fer chrissakes. He's certainly not someone I would trust, though.

I do find it a bit strange that he joins this community on October 11th, and the first thing he does is join the Mafia game. He's had zero non-Mafia related posts. It's entirely possible that we're looking at a smurf account. In that case, he could be hiding behind "newness" in order to draw suspicion away.

Not a bad choice for a DT check, IMO. I can't unreservedly say that we ought to lynch him, though I also can't say that it would be a bad idea. From what I understand, it's usually worth the town's while to go after inactives -- Yogy fits that description perfectly.
whole lies with a half smile
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
October 17 2010 02:54 GMT
#2031
On October 17 2010 10:56 CubEdIn wrote:
Fair enough.
Player above me: thegilaboy
Voted twice against: Veldril
Got voted against by: quickstriker (day 1)
Profile: nothing incriminating as far as I can tell. Some protoss photos, and other sc related lines.
Posts: roughly 40, most are answers to questions about the game itself, and tips.
Here are some of interest:
Show nested quote +

Yeah I know what MH and D1 are lol, I've played some games of mafia before. I agree though, the clues on the first day especially can be misleading or simply too obvious. It's the posting actions of individuals that we should be most concerned about, coupled with voting tendencies and wild changes in who an individual votes for in a given day.

- he seems to deflect from masq, but i had the same opinion as well (clues too obvious), so i'll let this slide
Show nested quote +

I'm trying to give the basics since he seems to be so unaware of how this game is played that I thought I'd lay down the foundation for him. I'm aware of how mafia games are played, I've played in plenty of them on and off this forum

- plenty of posts in, he is only giving advice, but hasn't helped the town by contributing with analysis. He added one before game was restarted, but it was just a sum-up of the clues. Seems strange that someone with this much experience is so quiet

Show nested quote +

Orglove is either a very enthusiastic townie, or he is a red trying to hold the reigns over a lot of newbies who will come to rely on his spreadsheet and and what I'll call "assessments." Spreadsheets are very useful, but you posting yours in every post is actually revealing information you should keep to yourself at times. But hey, you could be a very active townie and I might be off on my suspicions, I just think you might want to tone down on the spreadsheet since it has been found to be incorrect three times now I believe.

I know we really want to get our first day's lynch in order since the hours are winding down, but that also means the hours are winding down on any coordination of our blue roles. I believe Pandain is attempting to coordinate MH placements, which can be a good thing for town even if he is red I suppose since he will be gunning for the other red team. Aztorisk may have jumped the gun on his role claim so early on, but that was partially due to the fact that the rules/descriptions weren't as clear as there are now. I know BM has been throwing around some ideas for Ghost placement in terms of the Masq/Veldril thing, anyone else have a thought on that?

- again, suspicious that he's not saying anything outright, just generalizing, asking for opinions. seems to support Pandain, so they might be in the same team

Show nested quote +

Holy fuck what an awesome night! Vamps are really hurting now, and we took care of the threat of the brute in the late game! So there were 4 actual hits and youngminii died by pumpkin bomb?

- HOLY FUCK is this incriminating. WE? WE TOOK CARE of the brute? The town lynched a spawn, the Brute was killed my Mafia. WTF? How did people miss this?

Other posts are not really useful.
So bottom line: I thought he could be a red or just someone who didn't have too much time to spend on the game, and that's why he was short on analysis.
Until I found this post, now I'm 60% sure convinced he's mafia (which would explain support of Pandain, if he is indeed, Mafia.


And I'm back. Sorry everyone for disappearing, grad school has been crazy recently. But on the plus side midterms are past us now and that will free up a bit more time for me That's a good point though Cube, I haven't been around too much to do analyses and I hope to amend this now that a few of my more important duties have been taken care of.

I want to say first off that I do not support Pandain. I acknowledged early on that it was a plus to have someone at least coordinating our blues since there was and still remains a great deal of chaos in the town. It was a special circumstance too in this game because of the existence of 3 teams, 2 of which are red and gunning for one another specifically.

The whole brute thing comes down to excitement to see the brute gone, and I suppose grammatically the sentence came out the wrong way. I was trying to get the point across that we wouldn't have to worry about our blues getting hit by the brute later in the game, because he becomes more and more dangerous the longer the game lasts. Also, I'm pretty sure DrH wouldn't put in a second brute, so I saw this as a big win for town.

I'll go ahead and follow the new analysis methodology everyone is using, and take a look at the person above me, I'll post that when I finish!
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
October 17 2010 03:11 GMT
#2032
The person above me on the list is: Node
Came into the game at page 56 through no fault of his own, claims he had not been given permission to access the forum until then. Also if you note in the signups thread, there were some messed up PMs by the hosts to the wrong person.
Profile: Contains a picture of the comic book Calvin and Hobbes with Hobbes' face whited out. Also his signature is a line from a specific strip from C&H, as well as a title of one of their compilation books. Picture further down is presumably him amongst some hills/mountains (I have no idea what you'd call those lol). Profile states he is an aspiring game designer, likes a lot of music, and walks of the beach. No obvious clue connections that I can see right now.

Posts: 14 total

From the beginning didn't care much for Bill Murray, and made this supposition about his replacement.
On October 13 2010 14:21 Node wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 14:20 Coagulation wrote:
I am EXTREMELY interested in watching how the person who takes over his role acts.



If I had a guess, s/he is probably just going to keep posting to a minimum. Pretty much everything would be incriminating at this point.


Made a few posts clarifying the boogeyman clue

On October 15 2010 01:14 Node wrote:
As far as I can tell, and this is maybe the most damning evidence against him there is, Veldril has done absolutely zero to actually defend himself. All that he has done, or at least, all he is doing now is attempting to misdirect towards other people.

I can't think of anything more foolish than letting a red get away when he's square in our crosshairs. And please, please don't believe his BS about how it's bad for us if he turns up vampire. Reducing their KP is huge so early in the game. Does it give the mafia an advantage? Yes -- over the vampires. Less people turning up dead isn't going to hurt the town.


Made a post calling for Veldril's death, claiming that more vampires dead will essentially be beneficial for both the town and mafia (Veldril ended up being townie):

On October 15 2010 01:14 Node wrote:
As far as I can tell, and this is maybe the most damning evidence against him there is, Veldril has done absolutely zero to actually defend himself. All that he has done, or at least, all he is doing now is attempting to misdirect towards other people.

I can't think of anything more foolish than letting a red get away when he's square in our crosshairs. And please, please don't believe his BS about how it's bad for us if he turns up vampire. Reducing their KP is huge so early in the game. Does it give the mafia an advantage? Yes -- over the vampires. Less people turning up dead isn't going to hurt the town.


Also did an analysis of Kyop based on his posting and how he implicated himself (Kyop ended up being Gravedigger):

On October 15 2010 11:04 Node wrote:
Kpyolisis32 is pretty damn sketchy in my book. Forget the damn cat for a moment, and just look at the way he's been posting:

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 13:25 Kpyolysis32 wrote:
By the way, the clue in LSB's death does look a hell of a lot like I did it, with the cat. It's bound to come up, so I'll just point it out now so we don't waste time.


I mean, this statement is so weird no matter how you look at it. It's just, "Yep, the clue points to me. That's all." He doesn't defend himself. He doesn't deny that it was him, or provide other potential suspects. To me, it just looks like a ploy to gain some townie cred by implicating himself just a little bit, hoping that people will move on accepting that there's no way a red would provide evidence against himself. The only defense we get is:

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 13:28 Kpyolysis32 wrote:
On October 14 2010 13:27 KhrisKruel wrote:

why would you implicate yourself?


It's going to come up either way, may as well point it out sooner. I'm not saying I did do it (I didn't, for what that's worth), but it's by far the most obvious implication of that clue.


I don't like it. I don't like it one bit.


From that point on not many substantial posts, was upset to see GR died, as well as his suspect Kyop had died and he would need to look for a new suspect:

On October 16 2010 13:09 Node wrote:
Well shit.

The real loss tonight is losing a grim reaper, though. And I'm going to have to find someone other than kpyolosis to be suspicious of.

So it goes.


Recently writes a post claiming he supports Pandain, even if he is red, because he keeps the town level-headed. Adds that aztrorisk is essentially spitting garbage, and does not want a ghost to protect him that night:

On October 17 2010 11:02 Node wrote:
Pandain, I've always thought that you seemed like, at the very least, you knew what was going on. Your posts have been significantly more constructive than, say, Aztrorisk's. Who I'm just confused about. More on him in a moment.

I may be making a huge mistake, but I think it would be altogether beneficial to the town if Pandain remained among the living. Even if he is red, he's done a lot more to keep the town level-headed than pretty much anyone else.

It makes me laugh to think that the vampires / mafia would actually want to target Aztrorisk. He has done virtually nothing to help the town, and at this point is only sowing discord and pointless suspicion with his silly codes and baseless accusations. That's not to say that suspicion is a bad thing, but that suspicion without rationality behind it can only turn us against each other. If the ghosts are listening to this, please don't save his stupid ass.


Node came into this game late and has made a few posts but really not a big impression. The only posts that may cause any kind of splash are the one's where he condemns Veldril and Kyop, who both end up not being red. Additionally, he says he supports Pandain, even if he were red, and is very against aztrorisk and considers him disruptive. I wouldn't say he is red so far, but I would like to see him posting a bit more in the thread.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2536 Posts
October 17 2010 03:19 GMT
#2033
What the fuck is going on? First spam and now super-secret codes?
Let's get back to discussing clues. With Kyplosis dead I think the cat clue directly points to YummyBlaBla. The meowing and huge claws all correspond with a tiger and is just as obvious as the carved pear clue. I think that unless something big comes up tonight, we should lynch Blabla the next day.
####
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
October 17 2010 03:25 GMT
#2034
On October 17 2010 12:19 Hyperbola wrote:
What the fuck is going on? First spam and now super-secret codes?
Let's get back to discussing clues. With Kyplosis dead I think the cat clue directly points to YummyBlaBla. The meowing and huge claws all correspond with a tiger and is just as obvious as the carved pear clue. I think that unless something big comes up tonight, we should lynch Blabla the next day.


more like not so secret codes.

tigers dont "meow" either.

I think brownbears profile would hold more weight on that note
YummyBlaBla
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada72 Posts
October 17 2010 03:27 GMT
#2035
Have you ever seen a tiger meow?
If you pour water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
YummyBlaBla
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada72 Posts
October 17 2010 03:28 GMT
#2036
Sorry for not posting these past days. It may seem that the cat reference points at me for being the culprit.
If you pour water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
YummyBlaBla
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada72 Posts
October 17 2010 03:31 GMT
#2037
Clues:
During the day, people die. When people die, clues are left behind by the dastardly mafia (or monsters) that killed them. Clues may refer to a persons profile, name, and signature. They can be taken from anywhere and won't always be so obvious. Keep a sharp and open mind when looking for clues. Remember, clues often times hurt the town more than they help. Analyze but don't go overboard in trying to use clues to your advantage, you may just run yourself in circles. Mafia is a game of deception, guesswork, and manipulation before it is a game of clue analysis. Keep that in mind.

I'm just putting that out there. (Not a red)
If you pour water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
KhrisKruel
Profile Joined August 2010
United States146 Posts
October 17 2010 03:31 GMT
#2038
I like how when people get suspected for not posting they suddenly show up. Thegilaboy first, now yummyblabla
Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. ~Buddha
Lucktar
Profile Joined July 2008
United States526 Posts
October 17 2010 03:33 GMT
#2039
mmk, I can analyze the person above me as well. That'd happen to be jaminz. He claims to be a first-time TL mafia player, but evidently has some experience playing mafia elsewhere. He joined TL in April of this year, and has made 71 posts, 22 of which are in this thread.

Profile Summary:
Picture of Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes. Quote from The Sandlot, something something follow your heart. Then in his public profile, he has what look like song lyrics. They seem to refer to The Office, but nothing there really jumps out at me.

On to the quotes. Basically, the great majority of his posts are in 1 of 2 categories:
1. Arguing with/about aztrorisk over his JoL claim, and whether he should be protected, etc, etc.
2. Posting a list of post counts in the thread, pointing out who has yet to post, who the lead posters are, etc.

More on that in a bit, but there was one post that definitely jumped out at me.

On October 13 2010 12:49 jaminz wrote:
BTW the "detective" Bill Murray thinks he has is me. Is it true? O_o

If jaminz isn't just making things up here, it seems to indicate that jaminz false claimed DT to BM, and was claiming it here. Bill Murray responds almost instantly, saying that he has a real DT, and then we get this exchange:

On October 13 2010 12:52 jaminz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 12:51 seRapH wrote:
On October 13 2010 12:49 jaminz wrote:
BTW the "detective" Bill Murray thinks he has is me. Is it true? O_o

i have no clue what you're trying to say, but i'm hoping you're not publicly roleclaiming on day 1.


Haha I'm not, don't worry. Just messing with Bill

Is this just jaminz screwing around with BM? Is it a soft claim for DT, that he immediately tries to backpedal on? Or is it some kind of disinformation ploy? I'm not sure what to think.

Other than the above exchange, jaminz's posting has been fairly unremarkable. I'm curious whether there's any relation between him and aztrorisk, given the exchange between the two, but I don't know of anything else that would indicate that. His posts summarizing post counts could be a way to try to get townies to trust him without giving anything away, or it could just be an attempt to be helpful.

Voting History:
Day 1. Initial vote Veldril, changed to BM. Interesting thing to note, jaminz switched his vote to BM approximately 9 hours before he made his DT 'claim.' 6 hours later, though, he switched his vote from BM to Pandain.

Day 2. Voted Pandain again, switched to glurio (BM's replacement) about 18 hours later.

That's all I can think of for now, nothing in his profile that seems to link up to the clues. I'll post again if I find anything there.
NaDa, much, ZerO fighting!
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
October 17 2010 03:33 GMT
#2040
On October 17 2010 12:25 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 12:19 Hyperbola wrote:
What the fuck is going on? First spam and now super-secret codes?
Let's get back to discussing clues. With Kyplosis dead I think the cat clue directly points to YummyBlaBla. The meowing and huge claws all correspond with a tiger and is just as obvious as the carved pear clue. I think that unless something big comes up tonight, we should lynch Blabla the next day.


more like not so secret codes.

tigers dont "meow" either.

I think brownbears profile would hold more weight on that note

We don't necessarily know if the "meow" is part of the clue or just red herring
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