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Honestly what I do, and what has worked very well for me is pretty simple:
- trying to exercise regularly (lots of sit ups, push ups, and small weights, about 10lbs and a few reps per day)
- running 2-3 times per week (2-4 miles each time)
- basketball 1-2 times per week
- eating less junk food (i'm still probably eating too many carbs and not enough veggies though).
Over the past year, my waist size has dropped from a 33 to a 31 (even 31's are a bit loose on me now), and my shirt size has dropped from a Medium to now I can comfortably fit in smalls, and I can even wear an XS if I want (although its less comfortable). I don't have a 6 pack, but I can see the outline forming, and I'm hoping that by the end of 2010 it'll be there as long as I continue.
I think small incremental changes in diet plus regular exercise is the way to go - the changes take longer to happen, but IMO it's easier than counting protein grams, radically changing your diet, and working out 1-2 hours per day.
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On August 14 2010 03:21 kainzero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2010 10:09 fredd wrote: depends on what you mean by working out
if by working out you mean lifting heavy weights in a gym then no it's not good for you lifting heavy weighs = big muscles big muscles != strength the human body can adapt to anything, this includes being able to lift heavy weights. most people are suprised by their adaption and go too fast and injure themself. big muscles make you less agile, stress on joints, tendons etc. stick to natural bodyweight excersises and go lean, i say.
this is a garbage post and is all sorts of wrong -lifting heavy weights won't necessarily mean that you get big muscles -having big muscles does not directly correlate with strength but generally bigger people are stronger -big muscles don't make you less agile (see american football players: RBs/LBs. or olympic sprinters), and weightlifting strengthens your joints and tendons -"natural bodyweight exercises" don't make you lean. they might even give you big muscles. see gymnasts. i hope no one listened to you a little harsh but i do agree with most.
-lifting weights TEND to make you grow muscle. but something called hitting a plateau can change that -having muscles CAN make you stronger and there is a relation. obviously a man that can bench press 300lbs can push you farther and harder away then a 10 yr old. actually lifting weights make you stronger not necessarily because of the muscle but because when you work out you are..."synchronizing" the muscles and making them move "faster"...if that made any sense. someone who practices punching the air 50 times a day will punch harder and faster possibly then someone who only lift weights. -muscles dont "weigh" you down thus make you less agile....like wtf. -natural bodyweights actually give you more muscle...lmao. like my post said. compound exercise. thus dumbbells...all natural exercise are compound exercise...thus you make more muscle or you tend to...
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On August 12 2010 02:41 love1another wrote: Hmm... I feel like this whole "bulk" and "cut" cycling is unnecessary for a lot of more casual people. I'm pretty happy with my ridiculously ripped 6-pack abs, rock hard triceps, and generally defined upper body which I gained on a Shanghai-greasy-food diet over like 2-3 weeks with a little but of lifting and swimming, but mostly a lot of eating unhealthy food.
Then again, my standards are much lower than a body builder's, since I'm mostly just looking to impress some high school friends with some flashy poses before going back to college.
..I call shenanigans..
A little bit of lifting and swimming over 2-3 weeks? Bullshit..
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damn wheres the part 2? i was really hoping for it
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On October 13 2010 06:22 heroyi wrote:damn wheres the part 2? i was really hoping for it He got
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On August 13 2010 10:09 fredd wrote: depends on what you mean by working out
if by working out you mean lifting heavy weights in a gym then no it's not good for you lifting heavy weighs = big muscles big muscles != strength the human body can adapt to anything, this includes being able to lift heavy weights. most people are suprised by their adaption and go too fast and injure themself. big muscles make you less agile, stress on joints, tendons etc. stick to natural bodyweight excersises and go lean, i say.
So much terrible misinformation in this thread. You can't even acquire "big muscles" while maintaining low bodyfat to be "jacked" without steroids in any reasonable timespan with normal human genetics. Hypertrophy is not easily attained, it's really silly you make it sound like you can just go to the gym and you will have a Greek-like physique in 2 years if you choose.
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On October 13 2010 08:13 PokePill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2010 10:09 fredd wrote: depends on what you mean by working out
if by working out you mean lifting heavy weights in a gym then no it's not good for you lifting heavy weighs = big muscles big muscles != strength the human body can adapt to anything, this includes being able to lift heavy weights. most people are suprised by their adaption and go too fast and injure themself. big muscles make you less agile, stress on joints, tendons etc. stick to natural bodyweight excersises and go lean, i say.
So much terrible misinformation in this thread. You can't even acquire "big muscles" while maintaining low bodyfat to be "jacked" without steroids in any reasonable timespan with normal human genetics. Hypertrophy is not easily attained, it's really silly you make it sound like you can just go to the gym and you will have a Greek-like physique in 2 years if you choose.
If you're supplementing, drinking protein shakes, have a steady GOOD diet, and and you hit the gym maybe an hour a day, you're going to be pretty cut in two years. It just takes alot of effort.
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If you want to get a body girls love, don't get your information from TL.net or any other website other than one dedicated to the topic.
If you're truly interested, BodyBuilding.com has great forums to ask questions and learn basically everything you need to attaining the body of your dreams.
The posters on the forums on there range from teens to adults, ectos to endos, casuals to amateurs to professionals.
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