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On July 29 2010 14:17 Pandain wrote: Top four list(in my opinion) Imo we should look at these user's collection of posts first. In no particular order 1.Misder 2.Pyrr 3.tree hugger 4.Opz I said to kill Xelin!?!
SEVERAL TIMES!!
>_<
I Explained my UTTER LOATHING of listening to BC.
Are you kidding me.
Look at my votes?! What votes did I make the same as the mafia we know about?!
I was just about to go look at xelins votes compared to everyone elses. Fuck it, I'm voting you. I'm staying the course.
Vote: Tree.Hugger and Pandain
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On July 29 2010 14:39 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2010 14:31 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: LOL Pandain. Please don't tell me anyone is buying this "I'm the other miller" thing. You come up red, you die. The odds are what, 1/14 black IF there is another miller? With a guaranteed 3/14 red. What the fuck was the point of checking you if you come up red and we still don't lynch you? Not to mention I was suspicious of you earlier when the DT was leaked and you pressured the DT to cough up his identity (which only reds should have a motive to do).
##vote Pandain 1.If there is another miller than I'm at 3/4 chance 2.When did I say the DT to ocugh up his identity? Theres a reason I withheld Sub's name while I was defending myself after young talked 3.You're already voting? Seriously? Think this through, this is serious. Listen to what I'm saying first. We have no medics, no dts. This is not the time for bandwagons. 4.The point of not lynching me is that we just lost a mad hatter, two greens, a dt, and a medic. If you were Miller you would of said 4/4 chance....Idiot
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On July 29 2010 14:44 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2010 14:43 Divinek wrote:On July 29 2010 14:39 Pandain wrote:On July 29 2010 14:31 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: LOL Pandain. Please don't tell me anyone is buying this "I'm the other miller" thing. You come up red, you die. The odds are what, 1/14 black IF there is another miller? With a guaranteed 3/14 red. What the fuck was the point of checking you if you come up red and we still don't lynch you? Not to mention I was suspicious of you earlier when the DT was leaked and you pressured the DT to cough up his identity (which only reds should have a motive to do).
##vote Pandain 1.If there is another miller than I'm at 3/4 chance 2.When did I say the DT to ocugh up his identity? Theres a reason I withheld Sub's name while I was defending myself after young talked 3.You're already voting? Seriously? Think this through, this is serious. Listen to what I'm saying first. We have no medics, no dts. This is not the time for bandwagons. 4.The point of not lynching me is that we just lost a mad hatter, two greens, a dt, and a medic. WE WERE TOLD OUR DT FOUND YOU TO BE RED end of story If I'm miller, I show up red. You're beating a dead horse Pandain.
if Pandain is green I'll vote divinek tomorrow tho...
And wasn't today a double lynch?
Vote: Pandain (incase it wasn't a doubly lynch day)
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LOL
SiNiquity knew that someone was going to hurt XeliN tonight
On July 02 2010 07:13 Bill Murray wrote: Suicide Bomber/Infested Terran - You may choose to "explode" on your target, taking them out with you. You will also kill anyone who is visiting that player [the suicide bomber target] in the night (medics, detectives, mad hatters, mafia buddies, etc.)
gg anyways
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1) Youngminii got it wrong, here's what happened: Sin protected Xelin for some reason and died. zeks only had one bomb on infun because he lied about having two bombs out to scare mafia. He actually did have two bombs on BC and South the night before they were lynched and by the time they died, he had only moved on off, losing a bomb. The mafia then hit bumatlarge and lakris. At least, that's my reading of it.
2) Pandain ;_; you got DT checked red, let it die man. You're going to get lynched regardless, try to help town find second lynch.
3) youngminii moved his vote off me ;_; I was going to make him post a video of him dancing to some song when I flipped green
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##Vote Pandain
sorry buddy, you got checked red. You know I'd want you to vote me if I got checked red too.
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Wait a sec, did BM mis-label the Infested Terran role? So Sin protected Xelin and got killed? (Also, why would you protect Xelin, come on he claimed IT). Anyway Zeks told me he had a bomb on Amber[light], he probably moved that off to someone else.
Anyway yeah if the whole Sin protecting Xelin thing and getting killed is true, then I suppose all my theories go bust.
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14/30 1. tree.hugger 2. brownbear 3. youngminii (sub said was green) 5. chaoser 6. divinek 11. rastaban (said BC claimed DT to him) 13. Amber[LighT] (sub said was green?) 15. pandain (Flipped Red) 16. ~OpZ~ 23. d3_crescentia (Got medic protected?) 24. Misder 26. Pyrrholuxia 27. Tricode (Vigi, said he hit BC) 29. protactinium
What else is there? that's the condensed list.
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From looking at nights, it seems like Vets didn't get hit. The only time that was even a possibility was during the night where only Sub died though I guess we've decided that he got double stacked which is highly suggestive that he got leaked or they somehow were very sure he was DT. So that means if we have two vets that's 11+2 v 3. If we kill one today it'll be 10+2 v 2 and then when mafia hit at night and if they don't hit vet it'll be 9+2 v 2. I say we have very good chances of winning.
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On July 29 2010 21:29 d3_crescentia wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2010 14:22 Divinek wrote: d3 is not confirmed in any way unless i missed the part where he got dt checked I am confirmed 100%. I got targeted Night 1 and was successfully protected by Siniquity. As you may recall, Vigis cannot shoot on Night 1, and mafia can't target themselves either, so this medic protect PM in my inbox makes me town. It's entirely possible that Foolishness got double-stacked and I'm faking it, but unfortunately Siniquity/Zeks are no longer around to back me up on this, as they were the only others that knew as far as I know. Show nested quote +On July 29 2010 16:01 Protactinium wrote:On July 29 2010 15:50 Divinek wrote: i see what you're saying and in a situation where there was 3kp a night it seems more reasonable to do it early, but to only have 1 dt after night 1 can get pretty painful(especially with suicide bomber as he can never go public). But i suppose this game shouldnt be the best example as our blues have been getting rollled To be honest, when I was thinking about this through since it was a clutch situation in trying to keep Subversion from being lynched, I left the Suicide Bomber out of all my calculations. Still though, I've always been taught it's best to target Mafia early on, since that at least forces them to defend themselves / have their teammates help defend them, which is what brought SouthRawrea and BloodyC0bbler out in this game. With 2 KP Mafia is still deadly, since Medics are pretty ineffective. At this point, I remember something: d3_crescentia, you said you were protected by a Medic night 1. However, Night 3 only one person (Subversion) died and nobody claimed a hit. I'm assuming a double stack. However, if you were hit and protected then you're as good as town confirmed, since no Vigilante tried to hit you (why would they night 1)? After that, as a focal town player you should have been forming circles. I'm not saying you haven't, but why haven't you been posting other than here and there? And if you had a circle, logically it should have included some people in it. Maybe I'm being completely played by PM Land, but it seems you've been too quiet for somebody of your "stature." I don't trust anyone this game given the amount of BS lying that was flying around. Creating a townie circle is only a good idea when everyone is trusted - i.e. myself and Siniquity. Others have tried to PM me. Xelin claimed DT to me after Night 1; but since checked lists started to float around only last night I didn't have a strong enough reason to suspect him. Tree.hugger's been noticeably silent in PM land as well; he claimed Townie to me Night 1. I haven't given them shit for information. In the meantime, Divinek PM'd me after BC's fake-claim asking me if I wanted to start a PM circle with him and BC. Since I know super secret awesome things I'll take him for his word and trust he's town, but I'll have to keep him in mind for the future. ##vote: Pandain##vote: rastaban
yeah i just wanted to pm you to see your reaction. You gave me a pretty town, or thinking townie rather, like reaction lol so i was happy to see that.
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We should have our vets claim like Brownbear wanted lolol
Sorry guys fixing connection issues for the past 24 hours :/... not having fun.
Reading through the posts during the day now... will vote soon
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Also I'm not asking this to ruffle feathers... but Tree.Hugger... why have you been so quiet? During Day2/3 you were PMing Infun and myself telling us both how to vote, and if I recall, your vote choices were both pro-town players. Did you just give up on the fight? What happened?
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From my PMs with tree.hugger early in the game, he led me to believe that he was in some sort of circle and that he was 100% sure that Sub and Young were mafia. Care to explain, tree?
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For now:
Vote: Tree.Hugger & Pandain
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citi.zen misinformed us, as everyone saw. We judged citi.zen to be the one more likely to be mafia, but it was basically a gut call on that front. We assumed that both options would prove the same thing, and it was just a choice between two candidates.
See my thread posts for my irritable summation.
----------------------------------------- Original Message: dude...wtf happened tonight? did your circle get misinformation or something?
----------------------------------------- Original Message: I don't think we can muster the votes to get them today.
----------------------------------------- Original Message: do you have any info that I could use to help back up my little case a couple pages back or are you guys still not ready to move yet?
----------------------------------------- Original Message: Yes.
----------------------------------------- Original Message: are you still decently sure about subversion/youngminii?
----------------------------------------- Original Message: It confuses the hell out of me. I have about three explanations for it, and neither of them are particularly useful or likely.
I mean, I know the mafia is trying to snipe blues, but they clearly suck at it, and the fact that nobody in the thread who was influential in any way was killed makes me suspicious.
----------------------------------------- Original Message: well, you didn't die lol that's a good thing...right?
----------------------------------------- Original Message: He's an idiot. Doubt he's mafia, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't block out what he says. Listen at your peril.
----------------------------------------- Original Message: final message, what are you thoughts on pandain? is he trustable?
----------------------------------------- Original Message: luck has little to do with it.
----------------------------------------- Original Message: best of luck
----------------------------------------- Original Message: <--tree.hugger Haha, I'm probably dying tonight. I've come to terms with that and made appropriate arrangements.
I don't thing Pandian's pm release will change anything.
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er, BM, can I edit that into spoilers?
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##Vote tree.hugger
Until tree responds, I'm going to keep my vote on him
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Jesus, divinek, let a man defend himself. You're just shouting him down and demanding he must die. That's pretty damn scummy to me.
##Vote Pandain ##Vote: Divinek
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In fact, you know what? I'm trusting Pandain on this one. He's given no reason for me to ever think he's mafia, and given that there are millers, I'm going to trust my gamesense over the DT check.
Plus, our secret friendship alliance is unbreakable :D
##UNVOTE: PANDAIN ##VOTE: MISDER ##KEEP VOTE ON DIVINEK
If he flips miller I shall be vindicated.
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