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Says he is suspicious of Zeks and BC
On July 22 2010 03:30 Misder wrote:
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I never said the only reason to vote to lynch him was to get him active. I said it was a plus.
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My reason for lynching him was this
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Nothing in there said that I wanted him to be active. I changed my vote because he contributed a lot to the town even though he was under attack. No mafia member would do this. This is pro-town behavior.
The reason why I gathered up the posts from Foolishness was to see if we could find anything from his posts. It wasn't like I was making a claim based on Foolishness's posts, just making sure we didn't miss out on something that the mafia didn't want Foolishness to expand on. Foolishness was a clear advocate for lynching DTA and you (citi.zen). Mafia may have wanted to kill Foolishness before he can expand. After Amber's post, I didn't know if I was going the right direction or not. It seemed like what I was doing was not helping, so I stopped. I thought that I got my point across with original post, and I left it at that.
Do not put me in the same category as zeks or BC. I have my own suspicion of both of them... though not as thought out.
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On July 22 2010 02:09 citi.zen wrote:
Glad you asked! I am intrigued by the trifecta of you/zeks/BC. If one of you turned red, I'd heavily suspect the others. The converse obviously does not necessarily hold.
BC concluded in his long post that zeks and misder are likely innocents who left the hyperbola bandwagon when they realized what a monster of a creation is was, and that it was probably leading to lynching an innocent player (hello day 1 lynches). Seems like a pretty strong thing to infer, but the man has mad experience, so who knows. Both zeks and misder use the same argument for their switch: they never voted with any conviction, only to make hyperbola become more active. Then foolishness got killed and the ever so helpful misder put together a post on foolishnes' accusations about me and darth, conveniently forgetting to include the fact that foolishness voted for BC. This post was an obvious attempt to start suspicion, but mysteriously misder never followed up on it once Amber 'splained it to him:
Most townies enjoy debating their hunches, mafia prefers to start shit and then lay low - this is exactly what you did here.
So yeah, I think you make an excellent lynching candidate. If you turned red we'd have a lead on other players. If you are not lynched you or zeks should get checked tonight (not BC - if red he would be the GF who put himself up for checking).
That's my little conspiracy theory of the day!
Glad you asked! I am intrigued by the trifecta of you/zeks/BC. If one of you turned red, I'd heavily suspect the others. The converse obviously does not necessarily hold.
BC concluded in his long post that zeks and misder are likely innocents who left the hyperbola bandwagon when they realized what a monster of a creation is was, and that it was probably leading to lynching an innocent player (hello day 1 lynches). Seems like a pretty strong thing to infer, but the man has mad experience, so who knows. Both zeks and misder use the same argument for their switch: they never voted with any conviction, only to make hyperbola become more active. Then foolishness got killed and the ever so helpful misder put together a post on foolishnes' accusations about me and darth, conveniently forgetting to include the fact that foolishness voted for BC. This post was an obvious attempt to start suspicion, but mysteriously misder never followed up on it once Amber 'splained it to him:
Most townies enjoy debating their hunches, mafia prefers to start shit and then lay low - this is exactly what you did here.
So yeah, I think you make an excellent lynching candidate. If you turned red we'd have a lead on other players. If you are not lynched you or zeks should get checked tonight (not BC - if red he would be the GF who put himself up for checking).
That's my little conspiracy theory of the day!
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On July 19 2010 08:08 Hyperbola wrote:
Guys, really?
Okay so I'm pretty much lynched because you people can't take a joke. So I'm leaving this as my legacy:
People I think are mafia or atleast seem fishy:
Brown Bear
Really dude? Jumping on a bandwagon before even reading the thread?
youngminii
You are entirely too defensive when a person puts a vote on you as a placeholder. Either you are scum or a very nervous blue.
You also endorse no lynching on the first day to appear to be "pro-life" and "for the town". I really don't see your reasoning behind this because a random shot in the dark of inactives or suspicious players can in fact nab a red. And if it doesn't you only lose a green because a blue would at least roleclaim or try to join up with trust circles to avoid getting lynched in this manner. (Divided blues that don't make connections are really hindering the town).
SiNiquity
I had absolutely no evidence against you before but now you are starting to stink of scum
at first you took my accusal of you as a joke and brushed it off, but when people started accusing me of being mafia you saw an opportunity and went into action to provide as much evidence as you could find against me by even looking into past games. Then you just completely shut your mouth and is now waiting for the situation to close to start talking again (afraid you'll say something to bring attention to you and me being the perfect scapegoat).
Also your previous posts were really try-hard in my opinion. You contributed absolutely nothing by typing up lengthy posts that just summarized what everyone said. Besides that you clarified and discussed some rules of the game and such. You want to make it seem like you are contributing and keep a neutral and non aggressive stance like a reporter so no one would suspect you.
This could just be your playstyle but it seems like a very cautious red one to me.
LaXerCannon
First LaxerCannon recommends lynching inactives but then goes ahead and abstains. Then he goes on again about how we should just line up inactives to lynch and doesn't change his vote. Then he vanishes. This is fishy for two reasons. First the obvious contradiction, and second, the effort to try and direct suspicion away from him. He keeps pushing the idea to lynch random inactive people while the town debates over a few suspects and really does nothing but push the town in the wrong direction: not analysing the game but killing off quiet people. Then he talks about playoffs and keeps endorcing random picking ideas. That is wayy too anti-town to be a blue. And if he's green he doesn't care about the game much.
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this is all I have now and hope I at least contributed to the game before I die
sorry about trying to have fun guys :/
j/k
~peace
Guys, really?
Okay so I'm pretty much lynched because you people can't take a joke. So I'm leaving this as my legacy:
People I think are mafia or atleast seem fishy:
Brown Bear
Really dude? Jumping on a bandwagon before even reading the thread?
youngminii
You are entirely too defensive when a person puts a vote on you as a placeholder. Either you are scum or a very nervous blue.
You also endorse no lynching on the first day to appear to be "pro-life" and "for the town". I really don't see your reasoning behind this because a random shot in the dark of inactives or suspicious players can in fact nab a red. And if it doesn't you only lose a green because a blue would at least roleclaim or try to join up with trust circles to avoid getting lynched in this manner. (Divided blues that don't make connections are really hindering the town).
SiNiquity
I had absolutely no evidence against you before but now you are starting to stink of scum
at first you took my accusal of you as a joke and brushed it off, but when people started accusing me of being mafia you saw an opportunity and went into action to provide as much evidence as you could find against me by even looking into past games. Then you just completely shut your mouth and is now waiting for the situation to close to start talking again (afraid you'll say something to bring attention to you and me being the perfect scapegoat).
Also your previous posts were really try-hard in my opinion. You contributed absolutely nothing by typing up lengthy posts that just summarized what everyone said. Besides that you clarified and discussed some rules of the game and such. You want to make it seem like you are contributing and keep a neutral and non aggressive stance like a reporter so no one would suspect you.
This could just be your playstyle but it seems like a very cautious red one to me.
LaXerCannon
First LaxerCannon recommends lynching inactives but then goes ahead and abstains. Then he goes on again about how we should just line up inactives to lynch and doesn't change his vote. Then he vanishes. This is fishy for two reasons. First the obvious contradiction, and second, the effort to try and direct suspicion away from him. He keeps pushing the idea to lynch random inactive people while the town debates over a few suspects and really does nothing but push the town in the wrong direction: not analysing the game but killing off quiet people. Then he talks about playoffs and keeps endorcing random picking ideas. That is wayy too anti-town to be a blue. And if he's green he doesn't care about the game much.
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this is all I have now and hope I at least contributed to the game before I die
sorry about trying to have fun guys :/
j/k
~peace
I never said the only reason to vote to lynch him was to get him active. I said it was a plus.
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blah. I don't want to abstain... but I don't know who to lynch 
I vote LaXerCannon because his posts don't have any substance whatsoever. He tries to contribute, but doesn't give any astounding idea. His ideas are based on previous ideas that have been said, and doesn't say anything new. Then he distracts from the conversation.
Either Hyperbola is a mafia member that is trying every attempt to get out, by making false accusations, or he is a townie who make a mistake but is trying to amend it by giving analysis. I tend to lean towards the latter. Plus, Hyperbola is now being active, which is good. If he is a mafia member, his activeness may work against him because he will have to dodge a lot to make it seem like he is a townie. If he is a townie, well, good. An active townie a very very good. Hopefully, I made the right decision...
I vote LaXerCannon because his posts don't have any substance whatsoever. He tries to contribute, but doesn't give any astounding idea. His ideas are based on previous ideas that have been said, and doesn't say anything new. Then he distracts from the conversation. Either Hyperbola is a mafia member that is trying every attempt to get out, by making false accusations, or he is a townie who make a mistake but is trying to amend it by giving analysis. I tend to lean towards the latter. Plus, Hyperbola is now being active, which is good. If he is a mafia member, his activeness may work against him because he will have to dodge a lot to make it seem like he is a townie. If he is a townie, well, good. An active townie a very very good. Hopefully, I made the right decision...
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As for the hyperbola bandwagon: I didn't really mean to actually start the bandwagon xD I just pointed out that his posts don't provide substance at all, and his defense is very poor.
and I think this came a way too late. Why not say this when defending himself the first time? He's just asking to be lynched...
and I think this came a way too late. Why not say this when defending himself the first time? He's just asking to be lynched...
Nothing in there said that I wanted him to be active. I changed my vote because he contributed a lot to the town even though he was under attack. No mafia member would do this. This is pro-town behavior.
The reason why I gathered up the posts from Foolishness was to see if we could find anything from his posts. It wasn't like I was making a claim based on Foolishness's posts, just making sure we didn't miss out on something that the mafia didn't want Foolishness to expand on. Foolishness was a clear advocate for lynching DTA and you (citi.zen). Mafia may have wanted to kill Foolishness before he can expand. After Amber's post, I didn't know if I was going the right direction or not. It seemed like what I was doing was not helping, so I stopped. I thought that I got my point across with original post, and I left it at that.
Do not put me in the same category as zeks or BC. I have my own suspicion of both of them... though not as thought out.
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On July 22 2010 12:44 Misder wrote:
##Vote Double lynch
I have a feeling that after today, we are going to have a huge crapload of people under suspicion...
##Vote Double lynch
I have a feeling that after today, we are going to have a huge crapload of people under suspicion...
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On July 22 2010 12:50 Misder wrote:
One more person needs to vote double lynch for it to pass!!
One more person needs to vote double lynch for it to pass!!
On July 22 2010 12:50 Misder wrote:
It is majority vote for double lynch, right?
It is majority vote for double lynch, right?
On July 22 2010 12:54 Misder wrote:
oh, lol. When I looked at BM vote tally, I thought there were 15 people left and we needed 8 people... stupid me.
oh, lol. When I looked at BM vote tally, I thought there were 15 people left and we needed 8 people... stupid me.
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Citi.zen wonder why no one is responding to or following with his suspicion of Misder. Pandain replies to say he thinks Zeks is more suspicious than Misder.
On July 23 2010 06:09 Pandain wrote:
I actually followed up on your suscipion of misder/zeks and I've decided that misder is much more town-likely than zeks. Misder I feel is actually contributing while Zeks posts' aren't that praiseworthy much. In addition, I negated the idea of ALL the three of them being mafia (misder,zeks, BC) because as misder says in this post he includes zeks in being under suscipion. Obviously that could just be a mafia ploy, but it does help lend credibility to Misder.
In addition, Misder could be mafia too. Looking over his posts I found a few that are suscipious, but not neccesarily mafia like. Here we see his reasoning ORIGINALLY for voting Hyperbola, but of course I take this to mean a joking sort of vote. He does question Hyperbola but then later unvote him here.
A theory could be laid that Misder wanted to "start" the bandwagon on Hyperbola and than jump out. This could be possible, but I believe it is too early to call such a thing certain.
Even more theories(all speculative) could be laid out supporting him being mafia. For example, in
this post he begins to show how Foolishness's death could have been caused by his posts "accusing people." Misder could just be using this to help the mafia, or he could just be trying to help. Either way, uncertain. More questionable is what you point out that in that post he forgot to include Foolishness's vote for BC.
As of now, should we vote Misder? No. Should we keep an eye on him? Perhaps.
Personally I feel zeks is a better suspect. I've compiled a list of his posts and notes I can share, but as of now they're pretty sloppy and just my thoughts. I'll probably reveal it later.
Finally, as for BC? not sure yet. He's a mafia vet, therefore should be watched closely, but I'm not sure if there are close enough ties to tie him to mafia. Especially a 3 person maifa. Unless you have more posts by BC which could indicate him, I'm more likely to just suspect Zeks.
A note about Zeks: One of the reasons I suspect him is because he's fairly quiet. More so than probably 95% of people.*cough* Tricode *Cough*. Speak up zeks, I'll probably change my mind about you.
So yeah, those are just my thoughts. Just wanted you to know I have been thinking about that post.
In short: Interesting idea, but we need more evidence/posts. I feel like one of the things holding us back is that certain people aren't speaking that often. Does it make them mafia? Certainly not. Can it be indicative of a mafia? Certainly.
These thoughts are certainly not final, and I'm still in the process of analyzing and deciding.
I actually followed up on your suscipion of misder/zeks and I've decided that misder is much more town-likely than zeks. Misder I feel is actually contributing while Zeks posts' aren't that praiseworthy much. In addition, I negated the idea of ALL the three of them being mafia (misder,zeks, BC) because as misder says in this post he includes zeks in being under suscipion. Obviously that could just be a mafia ploy, but it does help lend credibility to Misder.
In addition, Misder could be mafia too. Looking over his posts I found a few that are suscipious, but not neccesarily mafia like. Here we see his reasoning ORIGINALLY for voting Hyperbola, but of course I take this to mean a joking sort of vote. He does question Hyperbola but then later unvote him here.
A theory could be laid that Misder wanted to "start" the bandwagon on Hyperbola and than jump out. This could be possible, but I believe it is too early to call such a thing certain.
Even more theories(all speculative) could be laid out supporting him being mafia. For example, in
this post he begins to show how Foolishness's death could have been caused by his posts "accusing people." Misder could just be using this to help the mafia, or he could just be trying to help. Either way, uncertain. More questionable is what you point out that in that post he forgot to include Foolishness's vote for BC.
As of now, should we vote Misder? No. Should we keep an eye on him? Perhaps.
Personally I feel zeks is a better suspect. I've compiled a list of his posts and notes I can share, but as of now they're pretty sloppy and just my thoughts. I'll probably reveal it later.
Finally, as for BC? not sure yet. He's a mafia vet, therefore should be watched closely, but I'm not sure if there are close enough ties to tie him to mafia. Especially a 3 person maifa. Unless you have more posts by BC which could indicate him, I'm more likely to just suspect Zeks.
A note about Zeks: One of the reasons I suspect him is because he's fairly quiet. More so than probably 95% of people.*cough* Tricode *Cough*. Speak up zeks, I'll probably change my mind about you.
So yeah, those are just my thoughts. Just wanted you to know I have been thinking about that post.
In short: Interesting idea, but we need more evidence/posts. I feel like one of the things holding us back is that certain people aren't speaking that often. Does it make them mafia? Certainly not. Can it be indicative of a mafia? Certainly.
These thoughts are certainly not final, and I'm still in the process of analyzing and deciding.
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Misder responds
On July 23 2010 08:36 Misder wrote:
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citi.zen, you've only made one post against me (with actual content), and I have responded earlier. Just saying.
And if you really want to lynch me, you have tonight and day (mafia time) to present to the people before I can respond... (as I stated, I will not be able to get internet access tomorrow, and maybe even the day after tomorrow.)
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On July 22 2010 02:09 citi.zen wrote:
Glad you asked! I am intrigued by the trifecta of you/zeks/BC. If one of you turned red, I'd heavily suspect the others. The converse obviously does not necessarily hold.
BC concluded in his long post that zeks and misder are likely innocents who left the hyperbola bandwagon when they realized what a monster of a creation is was, and that it was probably leading to lynching an innocent player (hello day 1 lynches). Seems like a pretty strong thing to infer, but the man has mad experience, so who knows. Both zeks and misder use the same argument for their switch: they never voted with any conviction, only to make hyperbola become more active. Then foolishness got killed and the ever so helpful misder put together a post on foolishnes' accusations about me and darth, conveniently forgetting to include the fact that foolishness voted for BC. This post was an obvious attempt to start suspicion, but mysteriously misder never followed up on it once Amber 'splained it to him:
Most townies enjoy debating their hunches, mafia prefers to start shit and then lay low - this is exactly what you did here.
So yeah, I think you make an excellent lynching candidate. If you turned red we'd have a lead on other players. If you are not lynched you or zeks should get checked tonight (not BC - if red he would be the GF who put himself up for checking).
That's my little conspiracy theory of the day!
Glad you asked! I am intrigued by the trifecta of you/zeks/BC. If one of you turned red, I'd heavily suspect the others. The converse obviously does not necessarily hold.
BC concluded in his long post that zeks and misder are likely innocents who left the hyperbola bandwagon when they realized what a monster of a creation is was, and that it was probably leading to lynching an innocent player (hello day 1 lynches). Seems like a pretty strong thing to infer, but the man has mad experience, so who knows. Both zeks and misder use the same argument for their switch: they never voted with any conviction, only to make hyperbola become more active. Then foolishness got killed and the ever so helpful misder put together a post on foolishnes' accusations about me and darth, conveniently forgetting to include the fact that foolishness voted for BC. This post was an obvious attempt to start suspicion, but mysteriously misder never followed up on it once Amber 'splained it to him:
Most townies enjoy debating their hunches, mafia prefers to start shit and then lay low - this is exactly what you did here.
So yeah, I think you make an excellent lynching candidate. If you turned red we'd have a lead on other players. If you are not lynched you or zeks should get checked tonight (not BC - if red he would be the GF who put himself up for checking).
That's my little conspiracy theory of the day!
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On July 22 2010 03:30 Misder wrote:
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I never said the only reason to vote to lynch him was to get him active. I said it was a plus.
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My reason for lynching him was this
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Nothing in there said that I wanted him to be active. I changed my vote because he contributed a lot to the town even though he was under attack. No mafia member would do this. This is pro-town behavior.
The reason why I gathered up the posts from Foolishness was to see if we could find anything from his posts. It wasn't like I was making a claim based on Foolishness's posts, just making sure we didn't miss out on something that the mafia didn't want Foolishness to expand on. Foolishness was a clear advocate for lynching DTA and you (citi.zen). Mafia may have wanted to kill Foolishness before he can expand. After Amber's post, I didn't know if I was going the right direction or not. It seemed like what I was doing was not helping, so I stopped. I thought that I got my point across with original post, and I left it at that.
Do not put me in the same category as zeks or BC. I have my own suspicion of both of them... though not as thought out.
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On July 22 2010 02:09 citi.zen wrote:
Glad you asked! I am intrigued by the trifecta of you/zeks/BC. If one of you turned red, I'd heavily suspect the others. The converse obviously does not necessarily hold.
BC concluded in his long post that zeks and misder are likely innocents who left the hyperbola bandwagon when they realized what a monster of a creation is was, and that it was probably leading to lynching an innocent player (hello day 1 lynches). Seems like a pretty strong thing to infer, but the man has mad experience, so who knows. Both zeks and misder use the same argument for their switch: they never voted with any conviction, only to make hyperbola become more active. Then foolishness got killed and the ever so helpful misder put together a post on foolishnes' accusations about me and darth, conveniently forgetting to include the fact that foolishness voted for BC. This post was an obvious attempt to start suspicion, but mysteriously misder never followed up on it once Amber 'splained it to him:
Most townies enjoy debating their hunches, mafia prefers to start shit and then lay low - this is exactly what you did here.
So yeah, I think you make an excellent lynching candidate. If you turned red we'd have a lead on other players. If you are not lynched you or zeks should get checked tonight (not BC - if red he would be the GF who put himself up for checking).
That's my little conspiracy theory of the day!
Glad you asked! I am intrigued by the trifecta of you/zeks/BC. If one of you turned red, I'd heavily suspect the others. The converse obviously does not necessarily hold.
BC concluded in his long post that zeks and misder are likely innocents who left the hyperbola bandwagon when they realized what a monster of a creation is was, and that it was probably leading to lynching an innocent player (hello day 1 lynches). Seems like a pretty strong thing to infer, but the man has mad experience, so who knows. Both zeks and misder use the same argument for their switch: they never voted with any conviction, only to make hyperbola become more active. Then foolishness got killed and the ever so helpful misder put together a post on foolishnes' accusations about me and darth, conveniently forgetting to include the fact that foolishness voted for BC. This post was an obvious attempt to start suspicion, but mysteriously misder never followed up on it once Amber 'splained it to him:
Most townies enjoy debating their hunches, mafia prefers to start shit and then lay low - this is exactly what you did here.
So yeah, I think you make an excellent lynching candidate. If you turned red we'd have a lead on other players. If you are not lynched you or zeks should get checked tonight (not BC - if red he would be the GF who put himself up for checking).
That's my little conspiracy theory of the day!
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On July 19 2010 08:08 Hyperbola wrote:
Guys, really?
Okay so I'm pretty much lynched because you people can't take a joke. So I'm leaving this as my legacy:
People I think are mafia or atleast seem fishy:
Brown Bear
Really dude? Jumping on a bandwagon before even reading the thread?
youngminii
You are entirely too defensive when a person puts a vote on you as a placeholder. Either you are scum or a very nervous blue.
You also endorse no lynching on the first day to appear to be "pro-life" and "for the town". I really don't see your reasoning behind this because a random shot in the dark of inactives or suspicious players can in fact nab a red. And if it doesn't you only lose a green because a blue would at least roleclaim or try to join up with trust circles to avoid getting lynched in this manner. (Divided blues that don't make connections are really hindering the town).
SiNiquity
I had absolutely no evidence against you before but now you are starting to stink of scum
at first you took my accusal of you as a joke and brushed it off, but when people started accusing me of being mafia you saw an opportunity and went into action to provide as much evidence as you could find against me by even looking into past games. Then you just completely shut your mouth and is now waiting for the situation to close to start talking again (afraid you'll say something to bring attention to you and me being the perfect scapegoat).
Also your previous posts were really try-hard in my opinion. You contributed absolutely nothing by typing up lengthy posts that just summarized what everyone said. Besides that you clarified and discussed some rules of the game and such. You want to make it seem like you are contributing and keep a neutral and non aggressive stance like a reporter so no one would suspect you.
This could just be your playstyle but it seems like a very cautious red one to me.
LaXerCannon
First LaxerCannon recommends lynching inactives but then goes ahead and abstains. Then he goes on again about how we should just line up inactives to lynch and doesn't change his vote. Then he vanishes. This is fishy for two reasons. First the obvious contradiction, and second, the effort to try and direct suspicion away from him. He keeps pushing the idea to lynch random inactive people while the town debates over a few suspects and really does nothing but push the town in the wrong direction: not analysing the game but killing off quiet people. Then he talks about playoffs and keeps endorcing random picking ideas. That is wayy too anti-town to be a blue. And if he's green he doesn't care about the game much.
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this is all I have now and hope I at least contributed to the game before I die
sorry about trying to have fun guys :/
j/k
~peace
Guys, really?
Okay so I'm pretty much lynched because you people can't take a joke. So I'm leaving this as my legacy:
People I think are mafia or atleast seem fishy:
Brown Bear
Really dude? Jumping on a bandwagon before even reading the thread?
youngminii
You are entirely too defensive when a person puts a vote on you as a placeholder. Either you are scum or a very nervous blue.
You also endorse no lynching on the first day to appear to be "pro-life" and "for the town". I really don't see your reasoning behind this because a random shot in the dark of inactives or suspicious players can in fact nab a red. And if it doesn't you only lose a green because a blue would at least roleclaim or try to join up with trust circles to avoid getting lynched in this manner. (Divided blues that don't make connections are really hindering the town).
SiNiquity
I had absolutely no evidence against you before but now you are starting to stink of scum
at first you took my accusal of you as a joke and brushed it off, but when people started accusing me of being mafia you saw an opportunity and went into action to provide as much evidence as you could find against me by even looking into past games. Then you just completely shut your mouth and is now waiting for the situation to close to start talking again (afraid you'll say something to bring attention to you and me being the perfect scapegoat).
Also your previous posts were really try-hard in my opinion. You contributed absolutely nothing by typing up lengthy posts that just summarized what everyone said. Besides that you clarified and discussed some rules of the game and such. You want to make it seem like you are contributing and keep a neutral and non aggressive stance like a reporter so no one would suspect you.
This could just be your playstyle but it seems like a very cautious red one to me.
LaXerCannon
First LaxerCannon recommends lynching inactives but then goes ahead and abstains. Then he goes on again about how we should just line up inactives to lynch and doesn't change his vote. Then he vanishes. This is fishy for two reasons. First the obvious contradiction, and second, the effort to try and direct suspicion away from him. He keeps pushing the idea to lynch random inactive people while the town debates over a few suspects and really does nothing but push the town in the wrong direction: not analysing the game but killing off quiet people. Then he talks about playoffs and keeps endorcing random picking ideas. That is wayy too anti-town to be a blue. And if he's green he doesn't care about the game much.
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this is all I have now and hope I at least contributed to the game before I die
sorry about trying to have fun guys :/
j/k
~peace
I never said the only reason to vote to lynch him was to get him active. I said it was a plus.
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blah. I don't want to abstain... but I don't know who to lynch I vote LaXerCannon because his posts don't have any substance whatsoever. He tries to contribute, but doesn't give any astounding idea. His ideas are based on previous ideas that have been said, and doesn't say anything new. Then he distracts from the conversation.
Either Hyperbola is a mafia member that is trying every attempt to get out, by making false accusations, or he is a townie who make a mistake but is trying to amend it by giving analysis. I tend to lean towards the latter. Plus, Hyperbola is now being active, which is good. If he is a mafia member, his activeness may work against him because he will have to dodge a lot to make it seem like he is a townie. If he is a townie, well, good. An active townie a very very good. Hopefully, I made the right decision...
I vote LaXerCannon because his posts don't have any substance whatsoever. He tries to contribute, but doesn't give any astounding idea. His ideas are based on previous ideas that have been said, and doesn't say anything new. Then he distracts from the conversation. Either Hyperbola is a mafia member that is trying every attempt to get out, by making false accusations, or he is a townie who make a mistake but is trying to amend it by giving analysis. I tend to lean towards the latter. Plus, Hyperbola is now being active, which is good. If he is a mafia member, his activeness may work against him because he will have to dodge a lot to make it seem like he is a townie. If he is a townie, well, good. An active townie a very very good. Hopefully, I made the right decision...
My reason for lynching him was this
+ Show Spoiler +
As for the hyperbola bandwagon: I didn't really mean to actually start the bandwagon xD I just pointed out that his posts don't provide substance at all, and his defense is very poor.
and I think this came a way too late. Why not say this when defending himself the first time? He's just asking to be lynched...
and I think this came a way too late. Why not say this when defending himself the first time? He's just asking to be lynched...
Nothing in there said that I wanted him to be active. I changed my vote because he contributed a lot to the town even though he was under attack. No mafia member would do this. This is pro-town behavior.
The reason why I gathered up the posts from Foolishness was to see if we could find anything from his posts. It wasn't like I was making a claim based on Foolishness's posts, just making sure we didn't miss out on something that the mafia didn't want Foolishness to expand on. Foolishness was a clear advocate for lynching DTA and you (citi.zen). Mafia may have wanted to kill Foolishness before he can expand. After Amber's post, I didn't know if I was going the right direction or not. It seemed like what I was doing was not helping, so I stopped. I thought that I got my point across with original post, and I left it at that.
Do not put me in the same category as zeks or BC. I have my own suspicion of both of them... though not as thought out.
citi.zen, you've only made one post against me (with actual content), and I have responded earlier. Just saying.
And if you really want to lynch me, you have tonight and day (mafia time) to present to the people before I can respond... (as I stated, I will not be able to get internet access tomorrow, and maybe even the day after tomorrow.)
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Votes for me before day starts
On July 23 2010 14:21 Misder wrote:
##Vote Double Lynch
##Vote Pyrrholuxia For DTA
Since I can't defend myself later and no one is probably going to defend me, I'll just say that I'm pro-town. My only sugestion is look at my posts. They are the only things defending me right now.
Hopefully I will be able to get internet access sometime soon.
##Vote Double Lynch
##Vote Pyrrholuxia For DTA
Since I can't defend myself later and no one is probably going to defend me, I'll just say that I'm pro-town. My only sugestion is look at my posts. They are the only things defending me right now.
Hopefully I will be able to get internet access sometime soon.
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BC says: "A list of 6 where 1-2 will most likely be red
Siniquity, Southrawrea, Pandain, subversion, misder, protactinium"
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Lakrismamma says:
"I think BC is being very suspicious in not not coming with any ideas except delaying the claims. I find it weird as well that he dident include Misder in his little investigation. Misder is one of the scummyest people in the game I think. For now though since we could not abstain too much according to BM."
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Siniquity says:
"I searched and it seems Misder is the only one that hasn't posted since the Tricode / Citi.zen claiming party and has hinted he would probably be inactive this go-around. I think everyone else has at least posted, though a few only dropped in some one liners just saying they were either active or trying to catch up and didn't reference Tricode / Citi.zen directly, so it could be they missed it."
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BC says:
"As for why I haven't analyzed misder? So what? I opted to snag people I saw obviously coasting/acting scummy. You know, rather than fingering me for who I didn't analyze, maybe you should spend time analyzing said person. Hell if you think you believe they are scum, maybe you should give a reason why other than "I think"
Trying to put suspicion on me for who I didn't analyze is like saying "You contributed, but because your scum list and mine don't overlap 100% you must be red" instead of contributing yourself."
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Zeks posts:
"Double Lynch List (18/13):
Siniquity, BrownBear, Protactinium, zeks, ~OpZ~, rastaban, bumatlarge, chaoser, tree.hugger, LaXerCannon, Pandain, lakrismamma, XeliN, citi.zen, youngminii, pyrrhuloxia, amber[light], Divinek
Who is missing? Tree.hugger, BC, SouthRawrea, Infundibulum, Misder, Tricode, Subversion"
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Tree.Hugger posts:
"
On July 26 2010 11:53 Divinek wrote:
also there's way too many people in this game that dont post enough that are probably mob, how annoying
also there's way too many people in this game that dont post enough that are probably mob, how annoying
d3, (citi.zen's favorite) Misder, XeliN (haha, never posts, never has to)
"
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Protractinium posts:
"And so we have it here. Mafia killed Subversion, and I had a PM from Pandain telling me that the "other Detective" was going to check Subversion tonight, but to "keep Subversion from thinking that, and to just play it cool and to have him check Misder/lakrismamma."
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Votes Pandain and SouthRawrea. Says we should lynch Zeks to see if BC is innocent or not. Says we should lynch Rastaban next.
On July 26 2010 16:51 Misder wrote:
##vote Double Lynch
##vote SouthRawrea
##vote Pandain
I'm back. And I read through the entire thread. It confused the heck out of me... my first mafia game wasn't this complicated. >.<
Here's my train of thought: SouthRawrea has been lying, and fake claiming. Easy enough. And when he is asked to post PMs, he retypes it. I think that he doesn't know what PM posting looks like, so in order to cover up his made up PMs, he says he retypes it.
Pandain has been lying in the PMs. To me, this suggests that he is mafia. Even when he is PMing, he doesn't follow the plans that are given. I don't know anything about PMing in a mafia game, but it seems to be all a mind game. And it seems like Pandain is confusing as many people as possible.
I don't feel like BC is mafia. If he is, we can prove it by lynching zeks. This is pretty flawed, but I just have a feeling (I could be completely wrong, in which...)
I also think that we should consider lynching rastaban. rastaban's dt is fake; we cannot confirm whether he is lying or that his dt is lying. We lynch rastaban to get this info.
##vote Double Lynch
##vote SouthRawrea
##vote Pandain
I'm back. And I read through the entire thread. It confused the heck out of me... my first mafia game wasn't this complicated. >.<
Here's my train of thought: SouthRawrea has been lying, and fake claiming. Easy enough. And when he is asked to post PMs, he retypes it. I think that he doesn't know what PM posting looks like, so in order to cover up his made up PMs, he says he retypes it.
Pandain has been lying in the PMs. To me, this suggests that he is mafia. Even when he is PMing, he doesn't follow the plans that are given. I don't know anything about PMing in a mafia game, but it seems to be all a mind game. And it seems like Pandain is confusing as many people as possible.
I don't feel like BC is mafia. If he is, we can prove it by lynching zeks. This is pretty flawed, but I just have a feeling (I could be completely wrong, in which...)
I also think that we should consider lynching rastaban. rastaban's dt is fake; we cannot confirm whether he is lying or that his dt is lying. We lynch rastaban to get this info.
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Pandain's top 4 suspects
On July 29 2010 14:17 Pandain wrote:
Top four list(in my opinion)
Imo we should look at these user's collection of posts first.
In no particular order
1.Misder
2.Pyrr
3.tree hugger
4.Opz
Top four list(in my opinion)
Imo we should look at these user's collection of posts first.
In no particular order
1.Misder
2.Pyrr
3.tree hugger
4.Opz
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Divinek suspicious of Misder
[QUOTE]On July 29 2010 15:22 Divinek wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 29 2010 15:16 youngminii wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 02 2010 07:57 Bill Murray wrote:
1. tree.hugger
2. brownbear
3. youngminii
4. chaoser
5. divinek
6. rastaban
7. Amber[LighT]
8. pandain
9. ~OpZ~
10. d3_crescentia
11. Misder
12. Pyrrholuxia
13. Tricode
14. protactinium
Out of this list, there are 4 people that I am absolutely sure are town aligned. That leaves 10 people left. By using this double lynch today, there's a 1/5 chance that we hit mafia. It is crucial that we hit at least 1 mafia today because that will lower their KP to 1. If we don't hit any scum today, then there will be 10 people left tomorrow with 3 Mafia and no double lynches. Miss two more times and it's lights out for town. So while it's not GG if we miss today, it doesn't bode well for us at all if they're allowed to keep using their 2 KP.
There's a good chance Pandain is mafia and so he's my leading suspect. I propose that we lynch chaoser since he's pretty much next on my list. I know I was wrong about Infundibulum but we don't really have anyone better to lynch (unless you can come up with one), and chaoser was one of Zeks's leading suspects too. Aaaaand with that:
##Vote Pandain
##Vote chaoser[/QUOTE]
hm i like you're list this is my modified one taking myself out of course(and the practically and absolutely confirmed greens) but you dont have to believe that, ill have to try to painfully read some of chaosers actual content posts
1. tree.hugger
2. brownbear
4. chaoser
8. pandain
9. ~OpZ~
11. Misder
12. Pyrrholuxia
14. protactinium
so yeah that's solid odds, im still really suspicious of misder. He still hasnt been saying shit, i might almost think he's a better candidate than chaoser, almost time to read his posts[/QUOTE]
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Divinek and rastaban and I discuss Misder
[QUOTE]On July 29 2010 16:08 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 29 2010 16:02 rastaban wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 29 2010 15:59 Divinek wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 29 2010 15:54 rastaban wrote:
Uhg, just caught up, that was a horrible night. At least my read on Bumatlarge was correct.
I agree that Pandain is the way to go for our first vote, but I will hold off voting for him to see what defense he has. Really though I don't see how any argument would make it worth the risk of keeping a red alive, especially since we can drop their KP to 1 if we get one more.
Now who should we look at for the second lynch? So far Chaoser and Tree have both been put forth. I think I will go back through there posts and see if I can get a read on either one.[/QUOTE]
please consider misder also!
though i think both of your above are very good options as well[/QUOTE]
Your right, I had forgotten he was listed as well. He seems to have been pretty quiet as well.
[/QUOTE]
I guess I should take a look at misder; all I have thought about him so far this game is that he helped me get DTA lynched.[/QUOTE]
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Brown Bear votes Misder. First vote on Misder this game? I think so.
[QUOTE]On July 30 2010 01:39 BrownBear wrote:
In fact, you know what? I'm trusting Pandain on this one. He's given no reason for me to ever think he's mafia, and given that there are millers, I'm going to trust my gamesense over the DT check.
Plus, our secret friendship alliance is unbreakable :D
##UNVOTE: PANDAIN
##VOTE: MISDER
##KEEP VOTE ON DIVINEK
If he flips miller I shall be vindicated.[/QUOTE]
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Pandain has a new top 4 list. This one omits OPZ and adds Divinek.
[QUOTE]On July 30 2010 02:52 Pandain wrote:
Also, Opz your right. I was putting you on the list cause' of your general attitutude. But I was just saying we should look at these user's posts, not theyre neccesarily mafia.
New top 4 list
1.Misder
2.Divinek
3.Tree.hugger
4.Pyrr.
[/QUOTE]
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Pandain votes for Divinek and I. Divinek shoud be lynched first because somehow this will prove Misder's alignment?
[QUOTE]On July 30 2010 03:10 Pandain wrote:
Hmmm actually I think we shoud lynch divinek. When I'm miller, it will also become alot clearer. Look at the fact that he absolutely refused me to be able to defend myself AT ALL. Also, he accused Misder so if he's mafia I doubt he would accuse him this late in the game. OF course unless he's trying to build himself up for later game(to be trusted pro town.)
Plus if he's mafia you know for sure im innocent
Though I'm already majority lynched.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]On July 30 2010 03:12 Pandain wrote:
##Vote Divinek
##Vote Pyrr
We lynch Divinek, we find out whether Misder's innocent or not. [/QUOTE]
