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To be a top of the line SC2 Pro Gamer, I'm on the fence what number is the "sweet spot" for me, or people in general. I'm getting varying different hours or hour assessments from different players:
I'd like to strike a balance between playing long hours, but still finding time for the gym, getting out of the house, etc. I'm currently unemployed, not married (no gf either), but I am a college student with an upcoming 12 credit hour schedule approaching in late August. I'm a 24 year old Junior and yea I live with my parents (*cue laughter*), but that saves me money and more time for SC2, so I could care less .
How many hours/day is best for a person to be VERY successful at SC2? Do you think I could possibly get away with being top 20 playing 5/hours a day if I just concentrate on US servers only?
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It all depends what they do with their time. If they are constantly laddering, watching replays and striving to be the best all the time I would say 5-6 hours a day everyday would be more than enough.
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Yea this is assuming nothing but ladder hours and counting the viewing of film.
Of course, let's not count custom map hours, chatting, etc.
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I would say quality over quantity. Use your time well, actually learn something from your games rather than just grind through them and I guess 5h a days is plenty. You won't be A+ Korean but you will manage
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Get a gf, really.. Its good both for life and SC2.. As for your question, its impossible to say. Its very individual. Like play 5-6 hours a day and you will be fine.
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Lol everlong.
But yeah like others have been saying, its all based on the player. Alot of the time i can play all night (anywhere from 6pm-5am, or whenever i cant see straight). The trick for myself is when i notice myself getting sloppy due to overplaying/aggravation then i take a break, and put my time somewhere else so i can come back ready to put more quality games instead of just pissing away time.
Just my 2c's.
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I dont know about the hours, but i would try and getting into a team or in better contact with other high level/pro level players so u can train with them. That way u can be ahead of the meta game instead of following it.
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Top 20 as in what? Your division, the whole pro scene? Im guessing your division, but yeah with 5 hours u could
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T.O.P.
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On July 25 2010 15:05 Piski wrote: I would say quality over quantity. Use your time well, actually learn something from your games rather than just grind through them and I guess 5h a days is plenty. You won't be A+ Korean but you will manage Of course not. You'll always be better if you practice more.
I found this quote while reading the source link from this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137872
You think you can get as much done in 40 hours as a synthetic organic chemist versus someone who works 80? Bullshit. Don’t believe me? I’ll reassign my graduate student Suk Deep Lee to your molecule. He’s going to work on an alternative route. Don’t talk to me until you’ve made the molecule. Let’s see who makes the most progress, shall we?
Exactly. You’ll fall in line like everyone else. That's why korean pros are better than foreigners, they just practice so much more.
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I think Nony said in a post somewhere 7-8 is best, with maybe another 1-2 dedicated to studying vods or reps and practicing builds in single player, but I can't find it. He said something along the lines of to never sacrifice sleep or exercise for sc to avoid burnout and to keep your mental and physical mindset stable. If someone can like the post plz do, its really great advice.
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i remember day9 saying how when he practiced for some tournament in 2007, he woke up at 10 am and played until 3 am everyday and took breaks for lunch and dinner and stuff, and that's what i plan to do more or less
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On July 25 2010 15:12 T.O.P. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 15:05 Piski wrote: I would say quality over quantity. Use your time well, actually learn something from your games rather than just grind through them and I guess 5h a days is plenty. You won't be A+ Korean but you will manage Of course not. You'll always be better if you practice more. I found this quote while reading the source link from this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137872Show nested quote +You think you can get as much done in 40 hours as a synthetic organic chemist versus someone who works 80? Bullshit. Don’t believe me? I’ll reassign my graduate student Suk Deep Lee to your molecule. He’s going to work on an alternative route. Don’t talk to me until you’ve made the molecule. Let’s see who makes the most progress, shall we?
Exactly. You’ll fall in line like everyone else. That's why korean pros are better than foreigners, they just practice so much more.
You won't "always" be better if you practice more. If he's not trying to become the next Flash, the best advice is to focus on getting the most quality out of whatever time he can put into SC2. Korean pros aren't better than foreigners just because they practice more, it's because the quality AND quantity of their practice are higher. 12 hours of shitty practice would probably be a wash with 5 hours of focused, dedicated practice.
edit: poor quoting, just wanted to agree with you but emphasize that the quality of the quantity matters
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On July 25 2010 15:06 Everlong wrote: Get a gf, really.. Its good both for life and SC2.. As for your question, its impossible to say. Its very individual. Like play 5-6 hours a day and you will be fine.
dunno man. i have a gf and i can tell you its definately not good for SC2. even 4 hours a day would be way out of the question for me
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On July 25 2010 15:15 balistix wrote: i remember day9 saying how when he practiced for some tournament in 2007, he woke up at 10 am and played until 3 am everyday and took breaks for lunch and dinner and stuff, and that's what i plan to do more or less And that too is another point of contention because commentating takes a ton of time too, so by Day[9] doing his daily's, is he basically consenting he will never successfully compete with the pro gamers at the top levels? I don't see how that guy would have time for both practice and daily's. Plus, he's really involved in the community, so that's additional practice time subtracted.
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This completely depends on natural talent and physical ability. Also depending on what you do during those hours is very important. Are you experimenting? Laddering? Playing with a team member? Different stuff gets different results but playing a lot is definitely needed.
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On July 25 2010 15:21 -ReMeDy- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2010 15:15 balistix wrote: i remember day9 saying how when he practiced for some tournament in 2007, he woke up at 10 am and played until 3 am everyday and took breaks for lunch and dinner and stuff, and that's what i plan to do more or less And that too is another point of contention because commentating takes a ton of time too, so by Day[9] doing his daily's, is he basically consenting he will never successfully compete with the pro gamers at the top levels? I don't see how that guy would have time for both practice and daily's.
he stated in his interview with esports france that he has time for about 50 ladder games a week or so. he also said something along the lines of he would like to compete and be a top player but time doenst allow for that at the moment
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Personally I can only handle 2-3 hours a day maximum. I can't handle the mental and physical stress. eek..
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On July 25 2010 15:06 Everlong wrote: Get a gf, really.. Its good both for life and SC2.. As for your question, its impossible to say. Its very individual. Like play 5-6 hours a day and you will be fine.
Yeah get a gf its good for both life and sc2, though on a serious note, it mainly depend on your comprehension level. If you comprehension skill is low then practice till you faint, if you can comprehen easily then a few hours is fine.
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Straight up ladder grinding gets very very tedious. However, theory crafting, watching replays, and my daily dose of day9 make it okay to be in SC2 mode for 6+
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