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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
I would probably treat it like I do studying for a test. There's only so much studying you can do. So I guess... it really depends on how much you can learn out of your games. Narrowing down what you need to learn probably helps. Like not playing random; keeping track of 3 match ups instead of all 9. But hey I'm no pro. | ||
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MuTT
United States398 Posts
On July 25 2010 16:41 fyyer wrote: your gf helping you stop things you feel guilty of, if someone wants to play a game for 8 hours a day and someone else steps in, there's a problem. Gotta disagree with you there. Most rational people know what the best choice is, the thing that stops them is usually their emotions, habits, and pretty much themselves. I know that if i live a healthier lifestyle, then i will lead a longer, happier life. Like in school, for example, i knew that if i did my homework first then played starcraft that it would be better, but instead i procrastinated and had to pull all-nighters making the assignments much more painful than they actually were. This is the same situation she is just helping me overcome myself. There is no doubt how i live now what better than i was then. | ||
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fyyer
United States145 Posts
On July 25 2010 16:46 Everlong wrote: That is why Koreans are so good actually. You are right on this one. This type of stuff has been happening for years. Koreans dominate Starcraft like Russians dominated Chess. I remember seeing Bobby Fischer talk about how there is Chess talent everywhere out of Russia but there's no incentive or motivation to compete because players don't have the backing and support like Russia, so the good foreign players just fade away. It's EXACTLY like Starcraft in Korea. Good players everywhere, but gaming isn't really legitimate, atleast in USA. So unless people are like IdrA, and physically move to there, there is not much hope. But love for the game won't stop anyone, whether people think its legit or not. I think you should do what you really like to do no matter what others say, as long as it doesn't hurt others. | ||
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-HellZerg-
United States409 Posts
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
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fyyer
United States145 Posts
On July 25 2010 16:56 ProHellZerg wrote: I think you should do what you really like to do no matter what others say, as long as it doesn't hurt you and doesn't make you poor and starve in your future life and not hurt others. What is "poor"? I think if you are happy with what you do, poor or rich not matter. PS if you can't feed yourself maybe you should figure out a way to feed yourself. I don't recommend playing SC until you die of starvation, you need to eat so you can play SC forever! :D | ||
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Everlong
Czech Republic1973 Posts
On July 25 2010 16:52 fyyer wrote: This type of stuff has been happening for years. Koreans dominate Starcraft like Russians dominated Chess. I remember seeing Bobby Fischer talk about how there is Chess talent everywhere out of Russia but there's no incentive or motivation to compete because players don't have the backing and support like Russia, so the good foreign players just fade away. It's EXACTLY like Starcraft in Korea. Good players everywhere, but gaming isn't really legitimate, atleast in USA. So unless people are like IdrA, and physically move to there, there is not much hope. But love for the game won't stop anyone, whether people think its legit or not. I think you should do what you really like to do no matter what others say, as long as it doesn't hurt others. That is right, but doing what you love to do as long as it doesnt hurt others is kinda automatic. Doing what you love as long as it doesnt hurt you is a bit tricky. And there you have gf and people that will help you.. | ||
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Aldair
United States78 Posts
If you can be happy smelling of urine, I'll take your cash and even point you to a nice street corner with a heating grate. | ||
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yema1
Iceland101 Posts
Back home at 15:30 Study and eat till 17:00 17 - 22:00 could be SC time :D | ||
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-HellZerg-
United States409 Posts
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Stimpk
France165 Posts
I know it's hard to reach good level with this amount of hours, but always playing at 100% makes it really efficient. | ||
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darklordjac
Canada2231 Posts
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TriniMasta
United States1323 Posts
I play 3-5 during the summer. | ||
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fyyer
United States145 Posts
On July 25 2010 17:00 Aldair wrote: Poor is not being able to pay bills and feed yourself. If you can be happy smelling of urine, I'll take your cash and even point you to a nice street corner with a heating grate. I see, must be just play with words. I think not being able to feed yourself or pay bills is poverty, way worse than poor. Poor just means you don't have money to always spend having fun or get to have latest gadgets, this is where a gaming habits come in and are really good because its' alot cheaper than other things. | ||
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-HellZerg-
United States409 Posts
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MuTT
United States398 Posts
Also doing what you like isn't a good way to go about life. You have to strike a balance and choose the best decision from what you do know. If i were to do only what i wanted to i would be homeless because i would never work. | ||
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Everlong
Czech Republic1973 Posts
On July 25 2010 17:03 fyyer wrote: I see, must be just play with words. I think not being able to feed yourself or pay bills is poverty, way worse than poor. Poor just means you don't have money to always spend having fun or get to have latest gadgets, this is where a gaming habits come in and are really good because its' alot cheaper than other things. But other things are way more satisfying than 7-8 hours of SC2 per day.. :-) | ||
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
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Zinbiel
Sweden878 Posts
On July 25 2010 16:27 Piski wrote: I completely agree  I believe that hard work always pays off. I just got from his post that he isn't intending to compete with the koreans but just wanted to be very good.That's why I said that playing 5h every day will be enough, comparing that say for White-Ra who says he can play over 8h one day and not play the next two days. I disagree. The example is not relevant since "getting more work done" in organic chemistry is more likely to translate into more games played than skill. Don't get me wrong, of course a lot of practice is needed. In fact, I would wager that if one wants to be the very best it is important to try to play like 10-12 hours a day. Why? Because being able to effectively practice for that long takes practice. I'm an amateur violinist but when I went to a music college I couldn't just start practice 8 hours a day and think it would be beneficial. But after a couple of months gradually increasing the workload I could. However to try to go from 4 to 10 hours is not going to work out well, because of how our muscle-memory (at least mine) works. YOU NEED TO NOT DO MISTAKES. Rather play 2 hours with minimal mistakes due to really high concentration than play for 3 hours where the last hour is sloppy as hell. Or you will learn doing these mistakes, and keep doing them subconciously. The study replay part of training can probably be almost as long as you want though, there is most definately diminishing returns the more you do, but at least it is probably not detrimental to your skill. In short, I would think that the most effective way of practicing to be the best would be to have about 10-12 hours of total SC time a day, and one might start out with 4 x 1 hour mechanical practice (as in playing games) with breaks in between, and the rest for analyzing the game and watching replays. As time goes by increase the amount of mechanical practice as you feel you can without starting to do too many mistakes. Edit: Meh, I wasted my 666:th post on this -.- | ||
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Ploppytheman
United States248 Posts
This is why video games are not as popular b/c its a waste of time literally with almost no pay-off, and even when there is pay-off like in Korea its a very small amount of people making money. If I lift weights, and I don't even have to compete or try to be the best or anything like that, I get lots of payoff from it. If there was a following like in poker and games were on money then it would be worth it, but its not. I love video games and SC especially but I'd rather have a wife and money for decent living. Speaking of that I need to get back to my report so I can actually play SC like a madman on release... next two days will be hell but I get to play SC all day mon-tues at least :D | ||
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