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On July 20 2010 08:08 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 08:05 Foolishness wrote:On July 20 2010 08:01 DarthThienAn wrote:Guys if I die tonight, then I am mafia. Death Post: + Show Spoiler + You might as well just roleclaim whatever blue role you have to the town. I mean, if the mafia don't kill you tonight they are either stupid or you are in fact mafia. If you aren't dead after night then you should be top priority for lynch. Of course, you could just actually act normal and help us out to save you a bunch of trouble. lol. Just doing my job ^^. On another note, I think Hyberbola was Godfather, so he flipped green... I mean, BM didn't officially say that he was a townie in the night post. :D:D:D
But he died. And the host said he was innocent.
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On July 20 2010 08:04 SouthRawrea wrote: Talking at night is stupid D:. It takes away from what the game is supposed to be.
the game is whatever we make it so stfu
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On July 20 2010 08:08 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 08:05 Foolishness wrote:On July 20 2010 08:01 DarthThienAn wrote:Guys if I die tonight, then I am mafia. Death Post: + Show Spoiler + You might as well just roleclaim whatever blue role you have to the town. I mean, if the mafia don't kill you tonight they are either stupid or you are in fact mafia. If you aren't dead after night then you should be top priority for lynch. Of course, you could just actually act normal and help us out to save you a bunch of trouble. lol. Just doing my job ^^. On another note, I think Hyberbola was Godfather, so he flipped green... I mean, BM didn't officially say that he was a townie in the night post. :D:D:D I do appreciate you making it easy for all of us on who to vote for as soon as day starts.
Mafia have probably sent in their hits already. Just claim now. The earlier the better.
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On July 20 2010 08:12 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 08:08 DarthThienAn wrote:On July 20 2010 08:05 Foolishness wrote:On July 20 2010 08:01 DarthThienAn wrote:Guys if I die tonight, then I am mafia. Death Post: + Show Spoiler + You might as well just roleclaim whatever blue role you have to the town. I mean, if the mafia don't kill you tonight they are either stupid or you are in fact mafia. If you aren't dead after night then you should be top priority for lynch. Of course, you could just actually act normal and help us out to save you a bunch of trouble. lol. Just doing my job ^^. On another note, I think Hyberbola was Godfather, so he flipped green... I mean, BM didn't officially say that he was a townie in the night post. :D:D:D I do appreciate you making it easy for all of us on who to vote for as soon as day starts. Mafia have probably sent in their hits already. Just claim now. The earlier the better.
I'm a Mad Batter
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Foolishness, are you so innocent yourself? You haven't really posted at all.
Unofficial Start of the Game:
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=10#196]Your first post after it:[url] which doesn't really say much.
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=19#363]2nd post:[/url] A ninja abstain vote to avoid modkill. Let's see if you change it later / actually contribute.
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=24#478]3rd post:[/url] There's the switch. You go to BC based on "bad vibes," claim busy IRL, and promise future activity.
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=28#547]Your next post:[/url] A summary of what happened during the voting. Implies youngminii, BrownBear, and bumatlarge might all be mafia together.
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=28#551]Next (two):[/url] Basically saying that we can't pull much from the voting patterns without more information than the vote talliers have given us.
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=28#554]Next:[/url] Bashing on me for... what, joking around a bit and still providing about as much content as you?
Gonna stop there as the other posts are pretty recent. So how much content have you provided? Not much. And all of it is within the last two pages. Sure you're busy with life and all, but maybe I'm busy with life too. Maybe we're all busy with life, except flamewheel. Sure, I might be spamming a bit here and there, but maybe I don't have much to say / don't have the time to write it all out.
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EBWOP - note to self: learn to preview.
Foolishness, are you so innocent yourself? You haven't really posted at all.
Unofficial Start of the Game:
Your first post after it: which doesn't really say much.
2nd post: A ninja abstain vote to avoid modkill. Let's see if you change it later / actually contribute.
3rd post: There's the switch. You go to BC based on "bad vibes," claim busy IRL, and promise future activity.
Your next post: A summary of what happened during the voting. Implies youngminii, BrownBear, and bumatlarge might all be mafia together.
Next (two): Basically saying that we can't pull much from the voting patterns without more information than the vote talliers have given us.
Next: Bashing on me for... what, joking around a bit and still providing about as much content as you?
Gonna stop there as the other posts are pretty recent. So how much content have you provided? Not much. And all of it is within the last two pages. Sure you're busy with life and all, but maybe I'm busy with life too. Maybe we're all busy with life, except flamewheel. Sure, I might be spamming a bit here and there, but maybe I don't have much to say / don't have the time to write it all out.
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Added time stamps to first set. Hopefully this helps some:
Day 1 Votes: + Show Spoiler [Voting Record (ordered by votes)] +
As a note, nothing changed here, but this set is ordered by whoever cast their initial vote first:
+ Show Spoiler [Voting Record (ordered by player)] + jayme ==> Amber[LighT] ==> youngminii DarthThienAn ==> Abstain ==> d3_crescentia ==> Amber[LighT] d3_crescentia ==> DarthThienAn citi.zen ==> DarthThienAn ==> ketomai rastaban ==> citi.zen youngminii ==> Pyrrhuloxia ==> Abstain ==> iNfuNdiBuLuM Pandain ==> Incognito ==> BloodyC0bbler ==> Hyperbola SouthRawrea ==> Incognito/Abstain ~OpZ~ ==> Chaoser ==> BloodyC0bbler BloodyC0bbler ==> Abstain ==> Pandain bumatlarge ==> Divinek ==> Hyperbola Hyperbola ==> SiNiquity LaXerCannon ==> Abstain Divinek ==> Abstain ==> Hyperbola Tricode ==> Abstain Misder ==> Hyperbola ==> LaXerCannon Pyrrhuloxia ==> Abstain ==> DarthThienAn Zeks ==> Hyperbola ==> Abstain SiNiquity ==> Hyperbola Roffles ==> Abstain ==> youngminii tree.hugger ==> LaXerCannon ==> DarthThienAn Foolishness ==> Abstain ==> BloodyC0bbler Lakrismamma ==> LaXerCannon ==> Subversion ==> ketomai XeliN ==> Brownbear ==> youngminii iNfuNdiBuLuM ==> youngminii chaoser ==> Abstain Amber[LighT] ==> Abstain ==> youngminii BrownBear ==> Hyperbola Protactinium ==> Abstain Subversion ==> Hyperbola
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On July 20 2010 08:22 DarthThienAn wrote:Foolishness, are you so innocent yourself? You haven't really posted at all. Unofficial Start of the Game: Your first post after it:[url] which doesn't really say much.
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=19#363]2nd post:[/url] A ninja abstain vote to avoid modkill. Let's see if you change it later / actually contribute.
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=24#478]3rd post:[/url] There's the switch. You go to BC based on "bad vibes," claim busy IRL, and promise future activity.
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=28#547]Your next post:[/url] A summary of what happened during the voting. Implies youngminii, BrownBear, and bumatlarge might all be mafia together.
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=28#551]Next (two):[/url] Basically saying that we can't pull much from the voting patterns without more information than the vote talliers have given us.
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=28#554]Next:[/url] Bashing on me for... what, joking around a bit and still providing about as much content as you?
Gonna stop there as the other posts are pretty recent. So how much content have you provided? Not much. And all of it is within the last two pages. Sure you're busy with life and all, but maybe I'm busy with life too. Maybe we're all busy with life, except flamewheel. Sure, I might be spamming a bit here and there, but maybe I don't have much to say / don't have the time to write it all out. This isn't about me. This is about you.
I gave reason for my actions. Where's your reasons on why you're acting "like Chezinu"? Most people are blind so let me spell it out for everyone. You're hiding something. It's clear that you're attitude is the result of the fact you know some information that you don't want everyone else to know. That means you're blue or red. I'm sure I'm not the only one to figure this out, and if you're blue I bet a mafia member has figured this out.
And if you don't have much to say/don't have the time to write it all out, go get yourself replaced.
By the way, shoving arguments against me to try to divert attention off of yourself is terrible. You should know me well enough I'm just going to keep pressuring you until you claim or until I get 75% of the town to vote for you.
If you want me off your back, all you got to do is point out how someone else is obviously mafia and you're not. I mean, all you had to do there was say "I'm not mafia, citizen is clearly mafia, look at his posts; clearly scum". And if you were somewhat serious about it I'd totally divert attention off of you since citizen is such an easy kill for the town.
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On July 20 2010 08:03 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 08:02 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On July 20 2010 07:44 Foolishness wrote: So if I'm understanding this, youngminii was ahead in the votes, then BrownBear and bumatlarge voted for Hyperbola, which pushed Hyperbola ahead in the voting (and he stayed ahead until day end). So it's possible there was a push to save youngminii from being lynched.
Of course please correct me if I'm mistaken. The people above me who are doing the vote tally are very very very unorganized with their posts. From looking at the post after this one, I think Hyperbola had 5 to youngminii's 4, and then brownbear and bumatlarge made it 7-4. But the final was 6-4 right? No, that's what I was saying.
The final vote count was 6-5. BM miscounted (attributed Jaymee's vote to Amber instead of youngminii)
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On July 20 2010 08:30 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 08:22 DarthThienAn wrote:Foolishness, are you so innocent yourself? You haven't really posted at all. Unofficial Start of the Game: Your first post after it:[url] which doesn't really say much.
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=19#363]2nd post:[/url] A ninja abstain vote to avoid modkill. Let's see if you change it later / actually contribute.
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=24#478]3rd post:[/url] There's the switch. You go to BC based on "bad vibes," claim busy IRL, and promise future activity.
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=28#547]Your next post:[/url] A summary of what happened during the voting. Implies youngminii, BrownBear, and bumatlarge might all be mafia together.
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=28#551]Next (two):[/url] Basically saying that we can't pull much from the voting patterns without more information than the vote talliers have given us.
[url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=28#554]Next:[/url] Bashing on me for... what, joking around a bit and still providing about as much content as you?
Gonna stop there as the other posts are pretty recent. So how much content have you provided? Not much. And all of it is within the last two pages. Sure you're busy with life and all, but maybe I'm busy with life too. Maybe we're all busy with life, except flamewheel. Sure, I might be spamming a bit here and there, but maybe I don't have much to say / don't have the time to write it all out. This isn't about me. This is about you. I gave reason for my actions. Where's your reasons on why you're acting "like Chezinu"? Most people are blind so let me spell it out for everyone. You're hiding something. It's clear that you're attitude is the result of the fact you know some information that you don't want everyone else to know. That means you're blue or red. I'm sure I'm not the only one to figure this out, and if you're blue I bet a mafia member has figured this out. And if you don't have much to say/don't have the time to write it all out, go get yourself replaced. By the way, shoving arguments against me to try to divert attention off of yourself is terrible. You should know me well enough I'm just going to keep pressuring you until you claim or until I get 75% of the town to vote for you. If you want me off your back, all you got to do is point out how someone else is obviously mafia and you're not. I mean, all you had to do there was say "I'm not mafia, citizen is clearly mafia, look at his posts; clearly scum". And if you were somewhat serious about it I'd totally divert attention off of you since citizen is such an easy kill for the town.
I feel like. Why not? I've still said more (actual stuff) than half the people in this thread. Yeah. I do have information that no one else knows. I know my role. You have information that no one else knows too. Your role. What exactly about my behavior suggests that I am blue or red? Am I really hinting at anything anywhere? Or am I just posting for fun? And if you really think I am blue, then why are you trying to fish it out of me? Mafia will know whether or not I'm town or mafia. They won't know if I'm green or blue. So why are you trying to give them that certainty by forcing me to claim? Mafia hits can be changed last minute easily. Especially considering that BM appears to be away, he'll probably take hits that are a little after the deadline.
I don't need to get replaced. Because I'm still more active than... 30-50% of the people playing. And to me, I don't need to be the most active member of the town to play my best.
Maybe I don't have a read on anyone? And besides, since you should know me as well, you should know that I don't defend by dodging and pointing elsewhere, I defend by defending. If you're town, maybe you should look through my posts and try to figure out why you're bothering me in the first place. If you're mafia, continue so that the town can watch while you burn. If you're a stubborn townie, continue as well, and I'll continue defending myself.
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On July 20 2010 08:33 SiNiquity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 08:03 Foolishness wrote:On July 20 2010 08:02 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On July 20 2010 07:44 Foolishness wrote: So if I'm understanding this, youngminii was ahead in the votes, then BrownBear and bumatlarge voted for Hyperbola, which pushed Hyperbola ahead in the voting (and he stayed ahead until day end). So it's possible there was a push to save youngminii from being lynched.
Of course please correct me if I'm mistaken. The people above me who are doing the vote tally are very very very unorganized with their posts. From looking at the post after this one, I think Hyperbola had 5 to youngminii's 4, and then brownbear and bumatlarge made it 7-4. But the final was 6-4 right? No, that's what I was saying. The final vote count was 6-5. BM miscounted (attributed Jaymee's vote to Amber instead of youngminii)
Hmm... also add to this that I had expressed doubts about Hyperbola. It's possible they just wanted to be sure due to the fact that it was possible youngmini was going to be lynched. This, of course, assumes that They Knew Hyperbola was not mafia. They WERE mafia. They knew Youngmini was not mafia. And Finally, believed that Youngmini had a chance of being lynched. (Italicized because if any of them are true, they are ALL true) Of the two who voted for Hypterbola (Brownbear and Bumat Large), I would say brownbear is the mroe likely.
BumatLarge's post:Look! I can change the text! is far more long and detailed than BB's. Finally, his post seems more pro town than mafia(of course he could be lying. Dang this game is hard.) Compare this with BB's post, which as others have noted is very suscipious and fallible.
A WARNING TO ALL THOSE WHO WOULD BANDWAGON: Let us not forget the tragedy of Hyperbola. I was one of those who jumped on him for a seemingly bad post. It is as likely as Hyperbola's that BB's post was taken out of context/missing information relavant. Just as Hyperbola's post was actually joking, BB could have followed this thread the whole time and merely missed one page or so. If he felt he was in danger of being modkilled, he justifiably could have quickly voted for Hyperbola since the previous pages had led him to believe that he was the mafia.
Friends, let us use calm, analyatical data, not quick rash accusations. Let us divine from the words of everyone here, factor in every piece of evidence. If your going to vote for BB, be sure, very sure.
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Hmm time passes too fast. As this is my first mafia game, I'm extra afraid I'm going to die. So in case I die, I'll live something that players can easily check on if they want to. It's the posts by each player in the game, in case a player wants to check up on something.
Tree.Hugger: + Show Spoiler +
BrownBear + Show Spoiler +
Oh god there are 600 posts. How could I be so stupid -.-. Unless people really want me to keep making these(which I'll of course do, gladly) I'll be doing it farily slowly.
+ Show Spoiler +This was harder than I thought . Oh well.
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On July 20 2010 09:25 Pandain wrote:Hmm time passes too fast. As this is my first mafia game, I'm extra afraid I'm going to die. So in case I die, I'll live something that players can easily check on if they want to. It's the posts by each player in the game, in case a player wants to check up on something. Tree.Hugger: + Show Spoiler +BrownBear + Show Spoiler +Oh god there are 600 posts. How could I be so stupid -.-. Unless people really want me to keep making these(which I'll of course do, gladly) I'll be doing it farily slowly. + Show Spoiler +This was harder than I thought . Oh well. You'd have an easier time if you look at lakrismamma or citi.zen
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TL has a search function that we can use to do that Pandain :p
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
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On July 20 2010 08:45 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 08:33 SiNiquity wrote:On July 20 2010 08:03 Foolishness wrote:On July 20 2010 08:02 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On July 20 2010 07:44 Foolishness wrote: So if I'm understanding this, youngminii was ahead in the votes, then BrownBear and bumatlarge voted for Hyperbola, which pushed Hyperbola ahead in the voting (and he stayed ahead until day end). So it's possible there was a push to save youngminii from being lynched.
Of course please correct me if I'm mistaken. The people above me who are doing the vote tally are very very very unorganized with their posts. From looking at the post after this one, I think Hyperbola had 5 to youngminii's 4, and then brownbear and bumatlarge made it 7-4. But the final was 6-4 right? No, that's what I was saying. The final vote count was 6-5. BM miscounted (attributed Jaymee's vote to Amber instead of youngminii) Hmm... also add to this that I had expressed doubts about Hyperbola. It's possible they just wanted to be sure due to the fact that it was possible youngmini was going to be lynched. This, of course, assumes that They Knew Hyperbola was not mafia. They WERE mafia. They knew Youngmini was not mafia. And Finally, believed that Youngmini had a chance of being lynched. (Italicized because if any of them are true, they are ALL true) Of the two who voted for Hypterbola (Brownbear and Bumat Large), I would say brownbear is the mroe likely. BumatLarge's post: Look! I can change the text! is far more long and detailed than BB's. Finally, his post seems more pro town than mafia(of course he could be lying. Dang this game is hard.) Compare this with BB's post, which as others have noted is very suscipious and fallible. A WARNING TO ALL THOSE WHO WOULD BANDWAGON:Let us not forget the tragedy of Hyperbola. I was one of those who jumped on him for a seemingly bad post. It is as likely as Hyperbola's that BB's post was taken out of context/missing information relavant. Just as Hyperbola's post was actually joking, BB could have followed this thread the whole time and merely missed one page or so. If he felt he was in danger of being modkilled, he justifiably could have quickly voted for Hyperbola since the previous pages had led him to believe that he was the mafia. Friends, let us use calm, analyatical data, not quick rash accusations. Let us divine from the words of everyone here, factor in every piece of evidence. If your going to vote for BB, be sure, very sure.
you have to remember that good mafia will be better at looking pro town than bad townies, it's alot more often that bad townies are the people that come off as scummy...but that could lead you into wifom stuff, it's just that you need to be able to discern each players actions in a way that it becomes easier to see if they're acting on more information than they should have.
also since you're new you're verrrry unlikely to be the night hit, but who knows maybe you're helping too much! Might be fun to try and guess at who the night hit is gonna be but that can go horribly wrong i surpose.
And hyperbolas post wasnt seemingly bad, they were terrible. As a brave Ace once said if you die early in a mafia game you're playing bad.
Still havent seen brown bear round these parts yet hum hum, so yeah im pretty sure until he starts postin
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On July 20 2010 09:35 DarthThienAn wrote: TL has a search function that we can use to do that Pandain :p
Yeah I know I just figure it would be alot easier. But your're right, why do ALL this is you could just take 5 minutes and do it yourself. Add to that that I would have to update it every few pages or so.
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On July 20 2010 09:31 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2010 09:25 Pandain wrote:Hmm time passes too fast. As this is my first mafia game, I'm extra afraid I'm going to die. So in case I die, I'll live something that players can easily check on if they want to. It's the posts by each player in the game, in case a player wants to check up on something. Tree.Hugger: + Show Spoiler +BrownBear + Show Spoiler +Oh god there are 600 posts. How could I be so stupid -.-. Unless people really want me to keep making these(which I'll of course do, gladly) I'll be doing it farily slowly. + Show Spoiler +This was harder than I thought . Oh well. You'd have an easier time if you look at lakrismamma or citi.zen I know you're not a bad player, so this attempt to cast doubts on me out of the blue strikes me as odd. Especially since you're grouping me with lakrismama - which makes zero sense, as you would know full well it if you were honestly searching for reds. Look at his posts:
On July 18 2010 15:25 lakrismamma wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 12:03 citi.zen wrote: A few comments on how I see the game going:
1. PMs are allowed so trust circles are the way to go. Sooner or later they will form because of Dt checks, medic protection, vet soaking up a hit when we know they are the lone vet, etc. When this happens we'll be in good shape. 2. BCs list is fine, but many people seem to miss its point entirely. 3. There is no roleblocker, but there is a suicide bomber. Be very careful with your circles. Speak through confirmed townies if possible. 4. We lynch an inactive and/or bad player day one. Hyperbola is a fine target. Bumatlarge is ok too, bringing grudges from prior games here can derail us for many pages. 5. I already voted for Darth, why is it not counted? I will likely change it, but still! Good post! Abstaining is stupid. Part of why suggesting voting for for inactive persons is to make that person become active to defend himself therefore we get more to read from and mafia cant hide in the inactives. I think Hyperbola has defended himself pretty well. ##vote LaxerCannonHe is usually more active so get to it Laxer.
On July 19 2010 03:46 lakrismamma wrote: I think youngminii has a point. I think we should keep an eye on hyperbola and him but not lynch them. DTA is probably just inactive town. But in that case we have no need for him either. So he is a decent alternative.
I will follow citizen though to create a third alternative.
##Unvote ##vote ketomai Transparent much? No mafia, in any game that I have seen, risks showing this "support" towards each other on day 1. You know this. And you Sir are now looking very red.
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By the way, should something happen to me don't assume lakrismama is innocent. The only point here is foolishness is playing very odd.
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