EPTTL Mafia XXVIII - Page 28
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LaXerCannon
Canada558 Posts
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LaXerCannon
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LaXerCannon
Canada558 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Jayme -> Amber[light] Pandain -> abstain DTA -> Abstain -> d3_crescentia d3_crescentia -> DTA DTA -> Unabstain citi.zen -> DTA rastaban -> citi.zen youngminii -> Pyrrhuloxia Pandain -> Incognito SouthRawrea -> Abstain ~OpZ~ -> Chaoser BloodyC0bbler -> Abstain bumatlarge -> Divinek Pandain -> BloodyC0bbler Hyperbola -> SiNiquity LaXercannon -> Abstain Youngminii -> Abstain Divinek -> Abstain Tricode -> Abstain Misder -> Hyperbola Divinek -> Hyperbola Pandain -> Hyperbola Pyrrhuloxia -> Abstain zeks -> Hyperbola SiNiquity -> Hyperbola Roffles -> Abstain tree.hugger -> LaXercannon Foolishness -> Abstain lakrismamma -> LaXercannon lakrismamma -> Subversion BloodyC0bbler -> Pandain ~OpZ~ -> BloodyC0bbler Pyrrhuloxia -> DTA XeliN -> Brownbear iNfuNdiBuLuM -> youngminii youngminii -> iNfuNdiBuLuM citi.zen -> ketomai XeliN -> youngminii chaoser -> abstain Amber[LighT] -> abstain treehugger -> DTA Amber[LighT] -> youngminii Roffles -> youngminii lakrismamma -> ketomai DTA -> Amber[LighT] bumatlarge -> Hyperbola BrownBear -> Hyperbola Jayme -> Youngminii Foolishness -> BloodyC0bbler Misder -> LaXerCannon zeks -> abstain Subversion -> Hyperbola BloodyC0bbler -> Abstain -> Pandain bumatlarge -> Divinek -> Hyperbola* BrownBear -> Hyperbola* Chaoser -> Abstain citi.zen -> ketomai d3_crescentia -> DTA Divinek -> Abstain -> Hyperbola* DTA -> Abstain -> Amber[LighT] Foolishness -> Abstain -> BloodyC0bbler Hyperbola -> SiNiquity iNfuNdiBuLuM -> youngminii Jayme -> Amber[Light] -> youngminii lakrismamma -> LaXerCannon -> Subversion -> ketomai LaXercannon -> Abstain Misder -> Hyperbola* -> LaXercannon ~OpZ~ -> Chaoser -> BloodyC0bbler Pandain -> Abstain -> Incognito (?) -> BloodyC0bbler -> Hyperbola* Protactinium -> Abstain Pyrrhuloxia -> Abstain -> DTA rastaban -> citi.zen Roffles -> Abstain SiNiquity -> Hyperbola* SouthRawrea -> Abstain Subversion -> Hyperbola Tricode -> Abstain tree.hugger -> LaXerCannon XeliN -> Brownbear -> youngminii youngminii -> Pyrrhuloxia -> abstain -> iNfuNdiBuLuM zeks -> Hyperbola* -> abstain What interests me is this block of voting: Misder -> Hyperbola Divinek -> Hyperbola Pandain -> Hyperbola Pyrrhuloxia -> Abstain zeks -> Hyperbola SiNiquity -> Hyperbola and these people: Misder -> Hyperbola* -> LaXercannon zeks -> Hyperbola* -> abstain My head hurts so I'll just give a couple one liners for now (I've been digging through this damned thread for like an eternity) The Hyperbola bandwagon Misder @ 10:43 Divinek @ 10:51 Pandain @ 10:56 zeks @ 11:22 SiNiquity @ 11:37 Within an hour, Hyperbola gets bandwagonned and is in first place: 5] Hyperbola (Misder, Divinek, Pandain, Zeks, SiNiquity) @ 11:37 (after roffles' vote)2] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, citi.zen) 1] Amber[LighT] (jayme), 1] d3_crescentia (darthThienAn), 1] citi.zen (rastaban) 1] chaoser (~opz~) 1] Divinek (bumatlarge) 1] SiNiquity (Hyperbola) 6] abstain (BloodyC0bbler, LaXerCannon, youngminii, tricode, Pyrrhuloxia, Roffles) Definitely suspicious considering how fast and compact the votes were together Misder -> Hyperbola* -> LaXercannon zeks -> Hyperbola* -> abstain Misder -> starts bandwagon, jumps off when Hyperbola's screwed zeks -> fourth voter for bandwagon, jumps off when Hyperbola's screwed attempts at lowering suspicion? | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
I'll be making a long epic post containing my thoughts in case I get killed tonight. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On July 20 2010 07:17 Pandain wrote: ...Dog going crazy(Lightning.) ... My bad^^ | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
Don't get me wrong I think the Hyperbola list is a perfect choice (the obvious one) the look at cause he did flip town and who'd be more suspicious than the people who voted him. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
Of course please correct me if I'm mistaken. The people above me who are doing the vote tally are very very very unorganized with their posts. | ||
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SiNiquity
United States734 Posts
On July 20 2010 06:27 SiNiquity wrote: Sorry for my absence yesterday - visiting relatives (on my anniversary no less, though we celebrated last month prematurely while we were in Europe) went wayy longer than I thought. Went to bed thinking we weren't allowed to talk - glad BM changed his mind. Day 1 Votes: + Show Spoiler [Voting Record (ordered by votes)] + Pre-game votes: [link] jayme ==> Amber[LighT] [link] DarthThienAn ==> Abstain [link] DarthThienAn ==> d3_crescentia [link] d3_crescentia ==> DarthThienAn [link] citi.zen ==> DarthThienAn [link] rastaban ==> citi.zen Day 1 Votes [link] youngminii ==> Pyrrhuloxia [link] Pandain ==> Incognito [link] SouthRawrea ==> Incognito (edited to Abstain few hours later) [link] ~OpZ~ ==> Chaoser [link] BloodyC0bbler ==> Abstain [link] bumatlarge ==> Divinek [link] Pandain ==> BloodyC0bbler [link] Hyperbola ==> SiNiquity [link] LaXerCannon ==> Abstain [link] youngminii ==> Abstain [link] Divinek ==> Abstain [link] Tricode ==> Abstain [link] Misder ==> Hyperbola [link] Divinek ==> Hyperbola [link] Pandain ==> Hyperbola [link] Pyrrhuloxia ==> Abstain [link] Zeks ==> Hyperbola [link] SiNiquity ==> Hyperbola [link] Roffles ==> Abstain [link] tree.hugger ==> LaXerCannon [link] Foolishness ==> Abstain [link] Lakrismamma ==> LaXerCannon [link] Lakrismamma ==> Subversion [link] BloodyC0bbler ==> Pandain [link] ~OpZ~ ==> BloodyC0bbler [link] Pyrrhuloxia ==> DarthThienAn [link] XeliN ==> Brownbear [link] iNfuNdiBuLuM ==> youngminii [link] youngminii ==> iNfuNdiBuLuM [link] citi.zen ==> ketomai [link] XeliN ==> youngminii [link] chaoser ==> Abstain [link] Amber[LighT] ==> Abstain [link] tree.hugger ==> DarthThienAn [link] Amber[LighT] ==> youngminii [link] Roffles ==> youngminii [link] lakrismamma ==> ketomai [link] DarthThienAn ==> Amber[LighT] [link] bumatlarge ==> Hyperbola [link] BrownBear ==> Hyperbola [link] Protactinium ==> Abstain [link] Jayme ==> youngminii [link] Foolishness ==> BloodyC0bbler [link] Misder ==> LaXerCannon [link] zeks ==> Abstain [link] Subversion ==> Hyperbola + Show Spoiler [Voting Record (ordered by player)] + jayme ==> Amber[LighT] ==> youngminii DarthThienAn ==> Abstain ==> d3_crescentia ==> Amber[LighT] d3_crescentia ==> DarthThienAn citi.zen ==> DarthThienAn ==> ketomai rastaban ==> citi.zen youngminii ==> Pyrrhuloxia ==> Abstain ==> iNfuNdiBuLuM Pandain ==> Incognito ==> BloodyC0bbler ==> Hyperbola SouthRawrea ==> Incognito/Abstain ~OpZ~ ==> Chaoser ==> BloodyC0bbler BloodyC0bbler ==> Abstain ==> Pandain bumatlarge ==> Divinek ==> Hyperbola Hyperbola ==> SiNiquity LaXerCannon ==> Abstain Divinek ==> Abstain ==> Hyperbola Tricode ==> Abstain Misder ==> Hyperbola ==> LaXerCannon Pyrrhuloxia ==> Abstain ==> DarthThienAn Zeks ==> Hyperbola ==> Abstain SiNiquity ==> Hyperbola Roffles ==> Abstain ==> youngminii tree.hugger ==> LaXerCannon ==> DarthThienAn Foolishness ==> Abstain ==> BloodyC0bbler Lakrismamma ==> LaXerCannon ==> Subversion ==> ketomai XeliN ==> Brownbear ==> youngminii iNfuNdiBuLuM ==> youngminii chaoser ==> Abstain Amber[LighT] ==> Abstain ==> youngminii BrownBear ==> Hyperbola Protactinium ==> Abstain Subversion ==> Hyperbola Comments: + Show Spoiler [Look at the data yourself first] + Few things that jumped out at me:
wtf, how much more organized can you get than this?  Only thing missing is fixed-formatting which TL doesn't have AFAIK | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
Death Post:+ Show Spoiler + Godfather | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 20 2010 07:44 Foolishness wrote: So if I'm understanding this, youngminii was ahead in the votes, then BrownBear and bumatlarge voted for Hyperbola, which pushed Hyperbola ahead in the voting (and he stayed ahead until day end). So it's possible there was a push to save youngminii from being lynched. Of course please correct me if I'm mistaken. The people above me who are doing the vote tally are very very very unorganized with their posts. From looking at the post after this one, I think Hyperbola had 5 to youngminii's 4, and then brownbear and bumatlarge made it 7-4. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
The only thing that's useful out of these lists is tracking the changes of who was ahead in the voting and how they got ahead. For instance, youngminii was ahead in votes at some point (I believe), looking at who were the people that pushed Hyperbola over is what's important. You also need the timestamps of when these votes happen, in order to confirm if there was a mafia pushover. It's been said before, mafia spread out their votes as much as possible. I wouldn't be surprised if there was only 1 mafia in the votes for youngminii and hyperbola combined. The only exception to this is if a mafia was about to be lynched, as the team would try to save that person. That's what we need to look out for. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On July 20 2010 08:02 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: From looking at the post after this one, I think Hyperbola had 5 to youngminii's 4, and then brownbear and bumatlarge made it 7-4. But the final was 6-4 right? | ||
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SouthRawrea
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On July 20 2010 08:01 DarthThienAn wrote: Guys if I die tonight, then I am mafia. Death Post:+ Show Spoiler + Godfather You might as well just roleclaim whatever blue role you have to the town. I mean, if the mafia don't kill you tonight they are either stupid or you are in fact mafia. If you aren't dead after night then you should be top priority for lynch. Of course, you could just actually act normal and help us out to save you a bunch of trouble. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 20 2010 07:15 LaXerCannon wrote: Resources (fixed) + Show Spoiler + Jayme -> Amber[light] Pandain -> abstain DTA -> Abstain -> d3_crescentia d3_crescentia -> DTA DTA -> Unabstain citi.zen -> DTA rastaban -> citi.zen youngminii -> Pyrrhuloxia Pandain -> Incognito SouthRawrea -> Abstain ~OpZ~ -> Chaoser BloodyC0bbler -> Abstain bumatlarge -> Divinek Pandain -> BloodyC0bbler Hyperbola -> SiNiquity LaXercannon -> Abstain Youngminii -> Abstain Divinek -> Abstain Tricode -> Abstain Misder -> Hyperbola Divinek -> Hyperbola Pandain -> Hyperbola Pyrrhuloxia -> Abstain zeks -> Hyperbola SiNiquity -> Hyperbola Roffles -> Abstain tree.hugger -> LaXercannon Foolishness -> Abstain lakrismamma -> LaXercannon lakrismamma -> Subversion BloodyC0bbler -> Pandain ~OpZ~ -> BloodyC0bbler Pyrrhuloxia -> DTA XeliN -> Brownbear iNfuNdiBuLuM -> youngminii youngminii -> iNfuNdiBuLuM citi.zen -> ketomai XeliN -> youngminii chaoser -> abstain Amber[LighT] -> abstain treehugger -> DTA Amber[LighT] -> youngminii Roffles -> youngminii lakrismamma -> ketomai DTA -> Amber[LighT] bumatlarge -> Hyperbola BrownBear -> Hyperbola Jayme -> Youngminii Foolishness -> BloodyC0bbler Misder -> LaXerCannon zeks -> abstain Subversion -> Hyperbola BloodyC0bbler -> Abstain -> Pandain bumatlarge -> Divinek -> Hyperbola* BrownBear -> Hyperbola* Chaoser -> Abstain citi.zen -> ketomai d3_crescentia -> DTA Divinek -> Abstain -> Hyperbola* DTA -> Abstain -> Amber[LighT] Foolishness -> Abstain -> BloodyC0bbler Hyperbola -> SiNiquity iNfuNdiBuLuM -> youngminii Jayme -> Amber[Light] -> youngminii lakrismamma -> LaXerCannon -> Subversion -> ketomai LaXercannon -> Abstain Misder -> Hyperbola* -> LaXercannon ~OpZ~ -> Chaoser -> BloodyC0bbler Pandain -> Abstain -> Incognito (?) -> BloodyC0bbler -> Hyperbola* Protactinium -> Abstain Pyrrhuloxia -> Abstain -> DTA rastaban -> citi.zen Roffles -> Abstain SiNiquity -> Hyperbola* SouthRawrea -> Abstain Subversion -> Hyperbola Tricode -> Abstain tree.hugger -> LaXerCannon XeliN -> Brownbear -> youngminii youngminii -> Pyrrhuloxia -> abstain -> iNfuNdiBuLuM zeks -> Hyperbola* -> abstain What interests me is this block of voting: Misder -> Hyperbola Divinek -> Hyperbola Pandain -> Hyperbola Pyrrhuloxia -> Abstain zeks -> Hyperbola SiNiquity -> Hyperbola and these people: Misder -> Hyperbola* -> LaXercannon zeks -> Hyperbola* -> abstain My head hurts so I'll just give a couple one liners for now (I've been digging through this damned thread for like an eternity) The Hyperbola bandwagon Misder @ 10:43 Divinek @ 10:51 Pandain @ 10:56 zeks @ 11:22 SiNiquity @ 11:37 Within an hour, Hyperbola gets bandwagonned and is in first place: @ 11:37 (after roffles' vote) Definitely suspicious considering how fast and compact the votes were together Misder -> Hyperbola* -> LaXercannon zeks -> Hyperbola* -> abstain Misder -> starts bandwagon, jumps off when Hyperbola's screwed zeks -> fourth voter for bandwagon, jumps off when Hyperbola's screwed attempts at lowering suspicion? When this supposed bandwagon started, I believe no one had more than one vote. I can't see more than one or two reds organizing a vote against youngminii in this situation. Reds bandwagon to save their own and no one was in mortal danger. Even if they thought youngminii was blue (I didn't see any reason to think that), they could kill him at night. Herd mentality isn't suspicious, it's par for the course. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On July 20 2010 07:44 Foolishness wrote: So if I'm understanding this, youngminii was ahead in the votes, then BrownBear and bumatlarge voted for Hyperbola, which pushed Hyperbola ahead in the voting (and he stayed ahead until day end). So it's possible there was a push to save youngminii from being lynched. Of course please correct me if I'm mistaken. The people above me who are doing the vote tally are very very very unorganized with their posts. I had to map the votes in excel to make it easier to analyze. Before bum and BB voted for hyper, the count was 5-4 in Hyperbolas favor. So they vote, and the tally is Hyperbola 7, Youngminii 4. DTA and ketomai each had two votes. Jayme votes for youngminii to make it 7-5. Then, misder and zeks switch their votes to Laxercannon and abstain, respectively. So the count is now 5-5. Finally, subversion comes in and drops his vote on Hyperbola. 6-5. Siniquity's analysis has detailed the important parts of this pretty well, i think. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On July 20 2010 08:04 SouthRawrea wrote: Talking at night is stupid D:. It takes away from what the game is supposed to be. I've never played a game without it... Don't see any reason things have to be like the parlor game so much. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On July 20 2010 08:05 Foolishness wrote: You might as well just roleclaim whatever blue role you have to the town. I mean, if the mafia don't kill you tonight they are either stupid or you are in fact mafia. If you aren't dead after night then you should be top priority for lynch. Of course, you could just actually act normal and help us out to save you a bunch of trouble. lol. Just doing my job ^^. On another note, I think Hyberbola was Godfather, so he flipped green... I mean, BM didn't officially say that he was a townie in the night post. :D:D:D | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
I forgive you.  Dog's doing way better now(weird). Just reread the rules, and am I right that the DT has as long as the twilight post to pm the host and say who they want to check. If so, I HIGHLY suggest them to check youngmini. He's definitely going to be active and I have to say, has been playing (at least) strange. Of course, I'm still giving Youngmini the benefit of the doubt just because we are in a secret friendship alliance, and why would he lie in a secret friendship alliance? But just in case, I would suggest the DT to check them. | ||
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