EPTYou know what, I'm just gonna drop it. As tree hugger said I'm just wasting space and creating confusion.
@ Pandain: A death post is the one post you're allowed to make after you die where you reveal what you are.
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
You know what, I'm just gonna drop it. As tree hugger said I'm just wasting space and creating confusion. @ Pandain: A death post is the one post you're allowed to make after you die where you reveal what you are. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
-Don't hit an EXTREMELY active person. They could be mafia, but they are putting themselves out there and will eventually be weeded out. -Don't hit those in danger of modkills. If they do some last minute stunt, well massive FoS on them for it. The above list looks ok, but I'm going to shy away from Darth, because I called him out another game for being way too helpful (weird, but he was red that game) and hes trying something different. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's just changing up his playstyle to avoid getting killed again, and I'm not implying that it seems scummy at all for him. Please reconsider as of this moment. Darth WOULD lift a finger to defend himself the same way no matter his role. I think he knows this so he's gonna try his luck. In fact I think hes blue, because I havent seen him play it, and it's a different style, so Im going to take some heat for him right now and ask that if you really are bent on voting for darth, vote for me instead  Young seems green imo and Ketomai is still in DANGERZONE.Hyperbola seems like a viable candidate from what I read, BUT SO DOES DIVINEK (DIEDIEDIE) ... ok I'll let him slide today unvote ##Vote Hyperbola | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4053 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Day 1 Lynch: 24-23-21 21-20-18 18-17-15 15-14-12 12-11-9 9-8-6 Day 1 No Lynch: 24-24-22 22-21-19 19-18-16 16-15-13 13-12-10 10-9-7 7-6-4 Looking only at vanilla KP (lynching, mafia hits) the difference is that we live for one day longer without a lynch. Considering all the tricks we have in this game (hatters, suicide bomber, medic) and all the uncertainty it brings, a Day 1 mislynch is a marginal cost to pay for the information we could get. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
Vote Count: 6] Hyperbola (Misder, Divinek, Pandain, Zeks, SiNiquity, bumatlarge) 3] YoungMinii (XeliN, Amber[LighT, Roffles) 2] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, Pyrrhuloxia) 2] ketomai (citi.zen, lakrismamma) 2] Amber[LighT] (jayme, DarthThienAn), 1] citi.zen (rastaban) 1] BC (~opz~) 1] SiNiquity (Hyperbola) 1] Pandain (BC) 1] LaXerCannon (tree.hugger) 1] Infundibulum (youngminii) 5] abstain (LaXerCannon, tricode, SouthRawrea, Foolishness, Chaoser) Not voting and in risk of modkill: 4] brownbear, Infundibulum, Subversion, ketomai If you wish to replace into this game, PM me, and I will replace someone who I modkill. I have class, so this will be the last vote count until I get back if I have time later. the day ends in a little under 4 1/2 hours, at 9pm est/10kst | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 19 2010 05:37 d3_crescentia wrote: Difference between Day 1 Lynch/No Lynch is marginal. Numbers, since I am so good at them: + Show Spoiler + Day 1 Lynch: 24-23-21 21-20-18 18-17-15 15-14-12 12-11-9 9-8-6 Day 1 No Lynch: 24-24-22 22-21-19 19-18-16 16-15-13 13-12-10 10-9-7 7-6-4 Looking only at vanilla KP (lynching, mafia hits) the difference is that we live for one day longer without a lynch. Considering all the tricks we have in this game (hatters, suicide bomber, medic) and all the uncertainty it brings, a Day 1 mislynch is a marginal cost to pay for the information we could get. I think it's less about the days and more about the fact that we get tons of information from looking at vote lists | ||
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Pandain
United States12979 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On July 19 2010 05:51 Pandain wrote: Do we know how many townies there are? 2, 3? There's 24 townies | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4053 Posts
On July 19 2010 05:10 DarthThienAn wrote: If you disagree with my plan, let me explain my train of thought. People are going to get modkilled. We want to get rid of mafia. Modkills are going to kill those people anyway, therefore we should lynch someone who would not be modkilled. There are plenty of people who are being unhelpful. I am an example of it - look through to find more people like me. I don't have time to find people like that, but again, d3 is an example. Misder might be an example iirc. Chaoser would be an example. Therefore, we lynch one of those kinds of people, and help the town out by not being worried about it later (is this person mafia lurking or just inactive?) etc etc. Hey guess what - people can be as "helpful" as they want so long as they themselves aren't being targeted. Someone can run the whole active townie gig for an entire game and still be scum so long as they lead the rest of the town in the "right direction" by virtue of their calm-and-collected persona. Some scum will play more actively to maintain the appearance of a model citizen. You've done it; I've done it; everyone's done it (that is, if they've played as mafia more than once). "Laying low" is just a playstyle and not an indication of mafia. But hey, if you wanna lynch me, let's get this ball rolling. The way I see it you stand to lose much more than I do. The people we should be trying to pin down and confirm should be our most active, most valued posters. I know nothing about youngminii but that s/he did excellently in a previous game, and so we should keep an eye out. I find it interesting that BC's earlier list did NOT include infundibilum, and I'm wondering what THAT's about. I'm NOT suspicious of Foolishness because usually he would have checked in at this point with some abrasive comment or other. | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4053 Posts
On July 19 2010 05:49 chaoser wrote: I think it's less about the days and more about the fact that we get tons of information from looking at vote lists Exactly my point, thank you. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
I am back, sorry. Is it too late to avoid modkill? | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On July 19 2010 05:17 DarthThienAn wrote: ebwop: did I say YellowInk? I think I meant youngminii. lol. Anyway, later all. Probably be back after the vote. Hope you guys don't kill me. Death Post: + Show Spoiler + Townie There are no death posts or coroners in this set-up. Roles are revealed by the mod. | ||
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Protactinium
Canada550 Posts
##Vote: Abstain as a placeholder. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
Initially this bandwagon looked rather harmless but now he's got 7 votes on him and unless a miracle happens it looks like he's being lynched. That being said anybody who advocates no lynch as much as Youngminii has is crazy sketchy while at the same time ignoring why people have said it's a terrible thing to do. In the end it's rarely the blues that actually win you the game and it's a few good analytical townies that save the day. If a sudden bandwagon comes up and all of a sudden a detective gets killed you have yourself at the very least a strong suspect list. SO yea ##Unvote ##Vote: Youngminii Even if you're townie your discussion sidetracked us like crazy. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
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Hyperbola
United States2530 Posts
Okay so I'm pretty much lynched because you people can't take a joke. So I'm leaving this as my legacy: People I think are mafia or atleast seem fishy: Brown Bear On July 19 2010 06:29 BrownBear wrote: Ahhhh shti! I am back, sorry. Is it too late to avoid modkill? On July 19 2010 06:30 BrownBear wrote: ###Vote: Hyperbola On July 19 2010 06:31 BrownBear wrote: Whew, looks like I got back in time. Sorry about that. Time to go read the thread. Really dude? Jumping on a bandwagon before even reading the thread? youngminii On July 18 2010 21:01 youngminii wrote: Actually, I'm not going to overlook it. Why would you place a vote on me 'just in case'? Especially after you heard BC say I was a strong player (which citi.zen evidently disagrees with)? You have these two guys criticising my post when it's not even serious, you jump on this bandwagon and then put a placeholder vote on me just in case? Does this not strike you as scummy at all? Overly scummy but scummy nonetheless? In fact, I think this is the scummiest post I have seen all game (not that long). However, I don't think you're really that bad at this game and even a mediocre scum wouldn't do that kind of mistake. Will need confirmation on other more experienced TL mafia players on your meta. You are entirely too defensive when a person puts a vote on you as a placeholder. Either you are scum or a very nervous blue. You also endorse no lynching on the first day to appear to be "pro-life" and "for the town". I really don't see your reasoning behind this because a random shot in the dark of inactives or suspicious players can in fact nab a red. And if it doesn't you only lose a green because a blue would at least roleclaim or try to join up with trust circles to avoid getting lynched in this manner. (Divided blues that don't make connections are really hindering the town). SiNiquity I had absolutely no evidence against you before but now you are starting to stink of scum at first you took my accusal of you as a joke and brushed it off, but when people started accusing me of being mafia you saw an opportunity and went into action to provide as much evidence as you could find against me by even looking into past games. Then you just completely shut your mouth and is now waiting for the situation to close to start talking again (afraid you'll say something to bring attention to you and me being the perfect scapegoat). Also your previous posts were really try-hard in my opinion. You contributed absolutely nothing by typing up lengthy posts that just summarized what everyone said. Besides that you clarified and discussed some rules of the game and such. You want to make it seem like you are contributing and keep a neutral and non aggressive stance like a reporter so no one would suspect you. This could just be your playstyle but it seems like a very cautious red one to me. LaXerCannon On July 18 2010 09:30 LaXerCannon wrote: We can take this step further by listing inactives in reverse order and numbering them from 1-X, use a number we obtain from the second paragraph and count through the list, looping when needed. I'm getting carried away here... I think lynching an inactive player is the best course of action. I also think we should get a list of players who are new to this mafia game so we know who they are. A new player who's scum can easily hide under that mask; I think it's best we can monitor them from the get go. On July 18 2010 09:33 LaXerCannon wrote: ##Abstain in case I can't find it within myself to wake up early tomorrow to post (no other time >_>) On July 18 2010 11:38 LaXerCannon wrote: Bad idea, there's no incentive for town to post -> silent town = dead town On July 18 2010 16:13 LaXerCannon wrote: playoffs are done for today! my next post will be in....around 16-18 hours. First LaxerCannon recommends lynching inactives but then goes ahead and abstains. Then he goes on again about how we should just line up inactives to lynch and doesn't change his vote. Then he vanishes. This is fishy for two reasons. First the obvious contradiction, and second, the effort to try and direct suspicion away from him. He keeps pushing the idea to lynch random inactive people while the town debates over a few suspects and really does nothing but push the town in the wrong direction: not analysing the game but killing off quiet people. Then he talks about playoffs and keeps endorcing random picking ideas. That is wayy too anti-town to be a blue. And if he's green he doesn't care about the game much. ------------------------------------------------------- this is all I have now and hope I at least contributed to the game before I die sorry about trying to have fun guys :/ j/k ~peace | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
##Vote BloodyCobbler Just based on bad vibes so far. I am busy irl the past few days, but I will be active permanently by the first night for the rest of the game. If the first night goes by and I haven't made an active contribution feel free to hold me accountable. | ||
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Pandain
United States12979 Posts
On July 19 2010 08:08 Hyperbola wrote: + Show Spoiler + Guys, really? Okay so I'm pretty much lynched because you people can't take a joke. So I'm leaving this as my legacy: People I think are mafia or atleast seem fishy: Brown Bear On July 19 2010 06:29 BrownBear wrote: Ahhhh shti! I am back, sorry. Is it too late to avoid modkill? On July 19 2010 06:30 BrownBear wrote: ###Vote: Hyperbola On July 19 2010 06:31 BrownBear wrote: Whew, looks like I got back in time. Sorry about that. Time to go read the thread. Really dude? Jumping on a bandwagon before even reading the thread? youngminii On July 18 2010 21:01 youngminii wrote: Actually, I'm not going to overlook it. Why would you place a vote on me 'just in case'? Especially after you heard BC say I was a strong player (which citi.zen evidently disagrees with)? You have these two guys criticising my post when it's not even serious, you jump on this bandwagon and then put a placeholder vote on me just in case? Does this not strike you as scummy at all? Overly scummy but scummy nonetheless? In fact, I think this is the scummiest post I have seen all game (not that long). However, I don't think you're really that bad at this game and even a mediocre scum wouldn't do that kind of mistake. Will need confirmation on other more experienced TL mafia players on your meta. You are entirely too defensive when a person puts a vote on you as a placeholder. Either you are scum or a very nervous blue. You also endorse no lynching on the first day to appear to be "pro-life" and "for the town". I really don't see your reasoning behind this because a random shot in the dark of inactives or suspicious players can in fact nab a red. And if it doesn't you only lose a green because a blue would at least roleclaim or try to join up with trust circles to avoid getting lynched in this manner. (Divided blues that don't make connections are really hindering the town). SiNiquity I had absolutely no evidence against you before but now you are starting to stink of scum at first you took my accusal of you as a joke and brushed it off, but when people started accusing me of being mafia you saw an opportunity and went into action to provide as much evidence as you could find against me by even looking into past games. Then you just completely shut your mouth and is now waiting for the situation to close to start talking again (afraid you'll say something to bring attention to you and me being the perfect scapegoat). Also your previous posts were really try-hard in my opinion. You contributed absolutely nothing by typing up lengthy posts that just summarized what everyone said. Besides that you clarified and discussed some rules of the game and such. You want to make it seem like you are contributing and keep a neutral and non aggressive stance like a reporter so no one would suspect you. This could just be your playstyle but it seems like a very cautious red one to me. LaXerCannon On July 18 2010 09:30 LaXerCannon wrote: We can take this step further by listing inactives in reverse order and numbering them from 1-X, use a number we obtain from the second paragraph and count through the list, looping when needed. I'm getting carried away here... I think lynching an inactive player is the best course of action. I also think we should get a list of players who are new to this mafia game so we know who they are. A new player who's scum can easily hide under that mask; I think it's best we can monitor them from the get go. On July 18 2010 09:33 LaXerCannon wrote: ##Abstain in case I can't find it within myself to wake up early tomorrow to post (no other time >_>) On July 18 2010 11:38 LaXerCannon wrote: Bad idea, there's no incentive for town to post -> silent town = dead town On July 18 2010 16:13 LaXerCannon wrote: playoffs are done for today! my next post will be in....around 16-18 hours. First LaxerCannon recommends lynching inactives but then goes ahead and abstains. Then he goes on again about how we should just line up inactives to lynch and doesn't change his vote. Then he vanishes. This is fishy for two reasons. First the obvious contradiction, and second, the effort to try and direct suspicion away from him. He keeps pushing the idea to lynch random inactive people while the town debates over a few suspects and really does nothing but push the town in the wrong direction: not analysing the game but killing off quiet people. Then he talks about playoffs and keeps endorcing random picking ideas. That is wayy too anti-town to be a blue. And if he's green he doesn't care about the game much. ------------------------------------------------------- this is all I have now and hope I at least contributed to the game before I die sorry about trying to have fun guys :/ j/k ~peace Wait I'm not one of them? Even though I've been rallying against you hardcore? I feel so special n.n But really, even though this list may be helpful later, I could add you to the list and make it the strongest case. It's just without a strong anti-lynch group, one of us has to be lynched. And unfortunately, jokes like yours can be taken too seriously to be left alone. Even if your not mafia, at least you're probably not a blue(based on your posts). | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On July 19 2010 08:08 Hyperbola wrote: Brown Bear Really dude? Jumping on a bandwagon before even reading the thread? My bad, didn't realize you could abstain. Should have done that, but at this point it's not like it really matters :/ | ||
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